Re: [問題] 今日洋基金鶯戰,Rivera勝投?

[sdc4589 (sdc4589)]

BALTIMORE -- All-time saves leader Mariano Rivera entered to protect a ninth-inning lead in his final regular-season appearance at Camden Yards on Thursday night, but due to a scoring quirk, the Yankees closer was credited with the victory instead of a save.

Official scorer Mark Jacobson invoked Rule 10.17 (c) to not give a victory to Yankees reliever David Robertson in New York's 6-5 win over the Orioles, ruling that Robertson's eighth-inning appearance had been "ineffective and brief."

"That's what I heard," Rivera said with a smile. "I'm fine with that. We won."

Robertson allowed four hits in the bottom of the eighth, including a game-tying three-run homer to Danny Valencia.

Brendan Ryan scored on a wild pitch in the top of the ninth, giving the Yankees a 6-5 lead on a wild pitch. Instead of Robertson, the pitcher of record became Rivera, who pitched a perfect ninth.

Told of the scoring decision, manager Joe Girardi said he believed the scorer had made "a mistake." It was Rivera's sixth victory of the season against two losses. He has 43 saves this year, increasing his regular-season career total to 651.

The full Rule 10.17 (c) is as follows:

"The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer."

反正基本上官網也講了,就是記錄員覺得Robertson投的太差,所以給Rivera勝投

還有人推昨天的比賽圖...

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推 Roshiel:MO：我比較想要SV....
推 maikxz:希望給勝投...FB CL太豪華了(金寶+MO+上原...)
推 swept:衰尾到家
推 shiyeh:這紀錄員是新來的或新手? 一定都要跟以前不一樣..?
→ kuyung:我猜是FB有Rivera而且差對手一勝(誤)
推 shoshobe:紀錄員在幹嘛啊
推 vergilmir:......還有這樣子的喔
推 KKyosuke:會質疑這個才奇怪吧...- -
推 shihchenhung:記錄員有玩FB，這週對手有MO，SV拉鋸中~ XD
推 ddt73930:再請教 假如9上洋基打4分然後9下MO失三分 這樣勝投是?
推 mikeneko:領先4分MO九下就不會上來投了，不用去想這麼多有的沒有的
推 elong:會質疑不奇怪啊 因為很多這樣情形 只有他這樣判
推 taiwancat:打擊戰常常領先四分叫終結者關門啊 尤其NYY很常見
推 RWAllenL:這不質疑才奇怪吧 領先1分時上場救援竟然是勝投不是救援
→ RWAllenL:看貢獻度照慣例不是只有先發領先但未投滿五局的情況嗎
→ RWAllenL:還記錄員"覺得" 那先發投手剛好撐滿五局但爆了10分怎麼算
→ kuyung:記錄組自由心證的點有兩個 1.丟的局數 2.丟的分數
推 RWAllenL:看起來就很常見的後援砸鍋拿勝投 記錄員硬是要標新立異?
→ RWAllenL:砸鍋的自然會有BS點來評價他 不需要記錄員自由心證
→ kuyung:現代投手分工下後援投手投一局基本上已經算完成任務
→ kuyung:所以我不覺得丟一局算太短
→ kuyung:丟三分我覺得也還可以接受 至少要丟四分以上(等於一支滿貫)
→ kuyung:我覺得N年後有人要挑戰Mo的紀錄時這件事又會被搬出來講了XD
→ mikeneko:這個N我想不會小於100，放心好了
→ kuyung:不知道MO的前651次SV有沒有跟今天這場很像的？
→ kuyung:有的話就很有趣了
推 taiwancat:那也沒什麼 我不太相信 如果有人還有機會破 會差這幾場
推 itsunfair:CP先猛個5年沒廢掉..再來討論破MO神的紀錄
推 Roshiel:反正這個勝投記到MO身上真的很奇怪就是了，如果CL掉三分B
→ Roshiel:掉比賽，下局球隊超前獲勝，W不是還是會給B掉的CL嗎
→ Roshiel:同樣的道理W給MO真奇怪，不過既然是給MO，我想也不太有人
→ Roshiel:會有太大的意見啦 XD
推 cjepj:蘿蔔 is vegetable 認了吧
→ final01:只能說規則上的確給了一個空間給紀錄組
推 Scape:很有意見，W對Mo沒什麼太大的意義，反而是被吃掉了一次SV
推 mirrorlee:只能說紀錄組想紅 畢竟終結者是在有救援成功條件上來的
→ mirrorlee:偏偏不給SV 而是給勝投 那以後遇到相同狀況也要比照辦理
→ mirrorlee:的話 終結者的救援成功紀錄恐怕會銳減