[討論] 攻防為*到底是多少？

[artywu ()]

(這是一篇規則討論的文章，精神狀況不佳者或是初學者請慎入)

根據舊的規則(預知將來上市之前)，不在場上的生物攻防為*的一律視為0

但是預知將來上市後完整規則有了這樣的更動：

(舊)
208.2.

Some creature cards have power and/or toughness of *, where * is a value
determined by the abilities of that object. As long as the object is in play,
the ability sets the value of *. The * is 0 while the object is not in play.

(新)
208.2.

Some creature cards have power and/or toughness represented by a * instead of
a number. The object has a characteristic-defining ability that sets its
power and/or toughness according to some stated condition. This ability
functions in all zones. If the ability needs to use a number that can't be
determined, use 0 instead of that number.

Example: Lost Order of Jarkeld has power and toughness each equal to 1+*. It
says "As Lost Order of Jarkeld comes into play, choose an opponent" and "Lost
Order of Jarkeld's power and toughness are each equal to 1 plus the number of
creatures that opponent controls." While Lost Order of Jarkeld isn't in play,
there won't be a chosen opponent. Its power and toughness will each be equal
to 1 plus 0, so it's a 1/1.

簡單來說即便不在場上，*該是多少就是多少，除非你無法辨識出*

所以去年在Legacy Championship中才會出現鱆人早餐這副放了四張塔莫耶夫但是一輩子
叫不出來的生物。

以前是放克洛薩入雲獸，不過抽到手上=GG @@

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推 jackshai:幫說明一下= =|| 無法辨識的情形可以參考"縫組食屍鬼"
→ jackshai:http://wowbox.tw/mtg/viewacard.php?CardID=41118
→ jackshai:食屍鬼是進場時觸發異能，透過這個觸發異能決定攻防
→ jackshai:因此當他不在場上的時候，就會變成無法決定攻防
→ jackshai:因為異能沒觸發過 :)
推 RealJustice:那雲雀不能拉很大隻的塔莫耶夫了?
→ artywu:是
推 airkolf:看完這篇 發現我還算老手 ~ 揪 柑恩ㄟ