[外電] 小牛球員留隊的重要性排名 #3: Jason Kidd

[DM24Tim (carpe diem)]

For many, even after his out-of-this-world performance in the 2011
postseason, Jason Kidd would not be a consideration to bring back next
season. After all, he'll turn 40 in March and he's coming off a season in
which he struggled through three injuries, missed 18 of 66 games and finished
with the worst statistics of his career.

對於很多人來說，儘管Jason Kidd在2011年季後賽打出了不可思議
的成績，他們還是不希望Kidd明年回到小牛。畢竟Kidd將在明年三
月滿40歲，今年又受了三次傷，在66場比賽中缺賽18場，打出來的
成績也是生涯最差的。


In fact, there will be some of you who can't believe Kidd wasn't on this list
a week ago.

事實上，有些讀者不敢相信為什麼Kidd不在上禮拜的名單當中。
(指#10~#6)


Everyone by now should know that Kidd's value is not measured by statistics
alone. And in regards to next season, his value can only be measured in Dirk
Nowitzki's happiness. Remember, Nowitzki is the one that really pushed for
the 2008 trade for Kidd, persevered with Kidd through the rough times when it
didn't look like a championship was in the stars and then ultimately won a
title with Kidd -- a long-awaited first for both.

大家都應該知道Kidd價值不是數據能顯現的，在下一個球季，他的
價值還包括了讓Dirk Nowitzki高興。Dirk在2008年很支持球隊交易
來Kidd，他與Kidd都被背負著無冕王的稱號，直到不屈不撓的兩人
終於贏來了期待已久的冠軍戒。


And now Nowitzki wants him back. Nowitzki believes Kidd can still play the
game at a high level and make offense easier for the rest of the team, as
Nowitzki has often said. But there's another variable at work here. Nowitzki,
one might surmise, wants Kidd back to help ease the transition with the
possibility of a large-scale roster revamp on the way. And that revamp could
possibly include the club's future point guard, whether it's Kidd's friend
Deron Williams or someone else.

而現在Dirk希望他歸隊，他相信Kidd還是能在比賽中打出高水準，
並且讓進攻變的更簡單，這是Dirk常常說的。不過還有一個變數存
在，有人猜測，Dirk想要Kidd歸隊是因為明年隊上可能會有一堆球
員的變動，Kidd在能減輕適應的麻煩。不過這個變動也可能包括球
隊未來的先發控位人選，可能是Kidd的朋友Deron Williams或其他
人。


Nowitzki needs another familiar face, another familiar voice, a veteran,
old-school, respected presence to set the ground rules and help bring a new
cast of players together as quickly as possible. Kidd, loved by all in the
NBA, would be integral in getting that done.

Dirk需要一位熟悉的面孔、熟悉的聲音、一個老將與受到尊敬的人
來幫忙訂下規矩並很快的把新隊員團結起來。做為在聯盟中受到愛
戴的球員，Kidd會是這件差事很好的人選。


Just listen to Nowitzki talk about his pal:

"I’d love to have him back," Nowitzki said. "I was very fortunate in my
career to play with two of the best passing point guards there ever were with
Nashie (Steve Nash) and him. He’s been great. He's been a warrior, just one
of probably the fiercest competitors I’ve ever been around. That’s why he
was able to stick around a long time, because he still has it. He can make
big shots, he can compete on defense, he doesn’t care about stats and he’s
been a great friend off the floor, too; great guy, Hall of Fame player. We
wish to have him back, but if he decides, hey, there’s a good team I can
come off the bench and give them something and he leaves, then I can’t be
mad at him."

聽聽Dirk的說法吧："我很希望他回來，我很幸運在生涯中搭配過
兩位聯盟中最會傳球的控球後衛，Nash與Kidd。他很棒，他是位勇
者，他可能是我遇過最好鬥的競爭者。這就是他為什麼能在聯盟待
那麼久，因為他還做得到，他能投進關鍵球，能拼命防守，他不在
乎數據，在球場上是個好隊友，是個很棒的傢伙，未來名人堂的成
員。我們希望他能留下，但如果他決定能去其他球隊，從板凳出發
並且給他們一些幫助，我也不會怪他。"


But would Dirk be mad if the Mavs didn't go the extra mile to re-sign Kidd if
dollars gap isn't ridiculously wide?

This will be interesting.

但如果小牛是因為薪資空間不夠，所以沒留下Kidd，Dirk會怪高層
嗎？這會很有趣。

The Countdown roars along at No. 3 ...

JASON KIDD
Pos.: PG
Ht./Wt.: 6-foot-4, 210
Experience: 18 years
Age: 39 (March 23, 1973)
2011-12 stats: 6.2 ppg, 5.5 apg, 4.1 rpg, 48 G
Contract status: Unrestricted free agent
2011-12 salary: $10.1 million
2012-13 salary: TBD

His story: A decade ago Kidd guided the Nets to back-to-back NBA Finals
appearances, proving that the step-child franchise can win in the shadow of
the Big Apple. And that was back when the shadow extended to the Jersey
swamps and didn't have a Russian billionaire owner promising to pay whatever
it takes to field a championship club. The question is whether J-Kidd is
showering any advice on the younger Williams, like how great it might be to
revive that franchise in a beautiful new building in Brooklyn. Or perhaps
Kidd is telling Williams how great Mark Cuban and Donnie Nelson treat their
players and how they'll always give the franchise a chance to compete no
matter how difficult it appears (and this is one of those times). Kidd has
made no secret that he would happily accept a backup role to Williams and
very few others -- here or even possibly up there. Kidd has said he'd like to
return to Dallas, while at the same time leaving the door for change wide
open.

十年前，Kidd帶領籃網連續兩年打進總冠軍戰，證明了儘管籃網活在
尼克的陰影之下，還是可以打出佳績。現在又有一位俄羅斯富豪買下
了籃網隊，承諾會不惜資本把籃網打造成冠軍隊。問題是Kidd有沒有
給年輕的蝶龍任何建議呢，例如說在布魯克林美麗的新球場裡為崛起
的強權效力是多麼美妙？又或者是Kidd會告訴他Mark Cuban與Donnie
Nelson是多麼友善的對待小牛的球員，而且這是一支不管有多少困境
都會奮戰到底的球隊。Kidd很大方的表示他樂於擔任蝶龍會是其他一
些球員的替補，在小牛或是別的球隊。Kidd說他想留下來，不過也不
排除轉隊的可能。


His outlook: Kidd has also said he wants to play two more years to take him
through 20 seasons and age 41. But can he be an effective everyday player at
his age? Will a return to the full 82-game schedule, with its month-long
buildup to the regular season and the normal days off between games help him
stay healthy and be more effective than he was during this rushed and
compacted season? And how much will he command on the open market? Does Kidd
see himself as a full mid-level guy? And which teams that he might find
attractive will be open to pay him? When the season ended, Kidd predicted
that his future will be settled very quickly once the July 1 free agency
period opens. Is that because he assumes that D-Will's future will be sealed
quickly? The intrigue builds.

Kidd說了他想再打兩年，這會讓在NBA打滾20個球季，並且打到41歲，
不過到時候他還會是這麼有效率嗎？在球季回到82場比賽之後，球季
拉長一個月，不過有更多的時間休息，Kidd的調整會比今年休息時間
不足的縮水球季好嗎？他又希望在市場上得到怎樣的報價？Kidd真的
把自己視為聯盟中的一般球員了嗎？哪些球隊會願意開價給他？今年
球季結束之後，Kidd預測他在7月1號左右就會很快的決定去向，這是
因為蝶龍的去向也很快就會確定了嗎？似乎有什麼陰謀。


下集待續
(請大家不要反應太過激烈...這只是國外作家的看法而已
跟小牛高層的決定沒有絕對的關係)


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推 kccc418     :顆顆   看來第二第一就不意外了
→ kccc418     :不對  我看錯了= = 原來這作者把Marion排這麼前面?
推 kid1412815  :Kidd現在打替補應該會比先發好(教練更好      疑 ?)
→ kid1412815  :小牛還是需要再一個有得分能力 爆發力的後衛
推 lovedirk14  :香妹真的重要阿...本季他一個人撐防守籃板 有時又要
→ lovedirk14  :得分
推 wdv24680    :以今年的陣容 香妹第二重要 一點都不意外啊
推 PaulDavis   :慢走不送，不要留戀了。
推 dallasjet   :香妹在JK前面一點也不意外.我覺得香妹對小牛蠻重要的
推 ahsoo       :Kidd拿底薪坐板凳,偶而上場穩住局面的話,我覺得ok
推 chieher     :完了，老大跟大家的想法不一樣，到底要不要挺老大!?
→ hackerjack  :Kidd要留在先發，前提是要有另一個突破型的後衛相伴
→ hackerjack  :不然，以KIDD的現況，打替補真的較合適。
推 LJY99       :Dirk真中肯
→ popstarkirby:Dirk講話真得體
推 muyang1016  :拜託轉教練或拿一年約吧吧
推 dmdjjj      :所以到底為什麼可以排在第三？上面那篇推文所講的考
→ dmdjjj      :量的因素好像都沒看到？只是搬出Dirk講的話...
→ BTWay       :因為他是Dirk的男人啊，夠重要了吧
推 dmdjjj      :我不解你在說啥...
→ BTWay       :因為他可以讓Dirk高興啊，哈哈哈
推 dmdjjj      :喔好吧...你繼續當我沒問
→ BTWay       :這是開玩笑也是認真的，尼克就是個很好的對照組
→ Royalweger  :排第幾不重要..明年替補老將底薪~不要拉倒~初非沒補
→ Royalweger  :到PG...才可能留下來又先發吧OTZ
推 dmdjjj      :對照什麼？還是你覺得Dirk對Jet說類似的話會比對Kidd
→ dmdjjj      :少嗎？
→ BTWay       :對照有沒有夠大牌的老將可以讓陣中王牌服氣啊！
→ BTWay       :就這點而言，Kidd跟Nash具有類似的價值
→ BTWay       :但Jet恐怕就沒有這方面的能耐，無論其個人表現再好
推 dmdjjj      :太好了！如果是這個原因排第三那我想上面那篇推文中
→ dmdjjj      :所說的所有因素都變打臉了！原作也自己在自己臉
→ dmdjjj      :題外話以Dirk個性有沒有大牌老將讓他服氣重要在哪我
→ dmdjjj      :實在是看不太出來呢
→ BTWay       :請問哪一篇是上面那篇？#1FnQyweN沒推文啊@@
→ BTWay       :再者也沒人說這點是唯一原因，打臉的點可否見教？
推 dmdjjj      :Jet排名那篇去看看阿！沒人說但你把這個算不上原因的
→ dmdjjj      :原因當成原因了阿
→ BTWay       :至於Dirk脾氣如何？至少我記得他會罵Jet、與Odom互毆
→ BTWay       :這些對球隊而言不見得是負面，但確實需要有人協助
推 dmdjjj      :Dirk在小牛待了13年我還沒見過有誰說過他的脾氣需要
→ BTWay       :你說不是原因的原因，也不過就是本篇第三段
→ dmdjjj      :有人協助控制勒！出了名好脾氣你不知道？
→ BTWay       :應該比打老婆脾氣好啦XD但是德國人也不是好惹的
推 dmdjjj      :唷打老婆是你說的不是我說的喔！所以你認為Dirk需要
→ dmdjjj      :打老婆的人協助控制脾氣@@?
→ dmdjjj      :好像不太對喔= =
→ BTWay       :大家本來就是互相幫忙，而不是互相扯後腿，不是嗎？
→ BTWay       :你爸你媽你老師會打你罵你，但他們難道無法給予協助
推 dmdjjj      :所以你還沒告訴我Dirk什麼時候在場上脾氣控制不好到
→ dmdjjj      :需要有人協助...至少我知道從他自己扛大旗當小牛老
→ dmdjjj      :大後就沒有，嚴格要說就是去年奪冠後時間還沒結束就
→ dmdjjj      :跑進休息室哭拉XD
→ dmdjjj      :等等，原來Kidd算得上Dirk爸媽@@?
→ dmdjjj      :這比喻很詭異抱歉
→ BTWay       :ㄟ，有的時候你可以看看別人文字背後的正面意義
→ dmdjjj      :有的時候你也可以看一下自己的比喻哪裡有問題
→ BTWay       :你要代換成哥哥姊姊弟弟妹妹兒子女兒表弟表妹都可以
→ BTWay       :如果你有看懂我的意思，就算有點怪，又何必斤斤計較
→ dmdjjj      :問題在Dirk和Kidd僅僅是隊友而沒有你說的這些關係
→ dmdjjj      :你的比喻不只怪還難以成立，會打自己妻子的人代表其
→ dmdjjj      :脾氣控制並不好，要這人教隊友控制脾氣？
→ dmdjjj      :別忘記Kidd這幾年也有過幾個被人拿來大大檢視的危險
→ dmdjjj      :犯規，至少這個在Dirk身上不太看見
→ dmdjjj      :更重要的是，Dirk在小牛13年沒有過脾氣控制的問題
→ BTWay       :我是覺得很多時候打罵教育也是情緒控制不佳的表現啦
→ dmdjjj      :你現在說他罵Jet和Odom互毆需要人協助他控制脾氣？
→ BTWay       :不是Kidd能教大家什麼，而是他本身威信足以穩定軍心
→ dmdjjj      :那請問是Dirk在場上較穩定軍心小牛表現較好還是Kidd
→ dmdjjj      :我知道這兩人常一起在場上，但Dirk不在時很明顯有一
→ dmdjjj      :大段的落差喔
→ BTWay       :不然其他NBA球員幹麼把選他為本季最佳運動精神獎
→ dmdjjj      :以你這樣說代表Kidd到小牛前的小牛都沒有一個有威信
→ dmdjjj      :穩定軍心的人囉？
→ dmdjjj      :........最佳運動員獎很大原因是他的年紀好嗎
→ BTWay       :就我個人觀點，我是覺得Lin更有運動精神啦XD
→ BTWay       :哈哈，那大家為什麼當年不投給Bowen？他也很老啊
推 LJY99       :原來運動精神獎是這樣評比的喔!?  噗
推 PaulDavis   :有Kidd在就穩定軍心？ 那建議他下季開始坐在觀眾席
→ dmdjjj      :不然你認為是選啥呢？年紀39還每場上30幾分鐘不是最
→ PaulDavis   :穩定軍心就OK啦。
→ dmdjjj      :大原因是啥
→ BTWay       :那也很好啊，不如改為吉祥物，變成Dalla Kidds
推 LJY99       :既然這樣 那就快去建議
→ BTWay       :我不是有投票權的NBA球員，你可以上Twitter問問他們
→ LJY99       :XDDD
→ BTWay       :啊，少了一個s，抱歉英文很爛QQ
推 dmdjjj      :入圍的六個人先不講較低調的Ridnour和Jamison，你真
→ dmdjjj      :的認為CP3和8DA是手腳乾淨不講垃圾話嗎？別鬧了= =
→ dmdjjj      :CP3可是出了名被說髒，8DA遮眼防守也聞名一時
推 LJY99       :這不是大家都知曉的事實嗎....
→ BTWay       :如果還有另一個dmdjjjj，他會說你扯遠了............
→ dmdjjj      :不好意思有人出來扯最佳運動員選法，那時外電有講到
→ dmdjjj      :選的準則在哪，但那準則來看入圍者根本是屁
→ dmdjjj      :而出來扯的正是二位
→ BTWay       :我只是要說他在聯盟有人望威信而已啦
→ BTWay       :不過由以上年紀大之類的說法，姑且認為我們認知一致
→ BTWay       :所以這個點皆大歡喜，恭喜大家達成共識
推 thedin      :有某人在的地方就有筆戰= =可以給我清新健康的牛板嗎
推 dmdjjj      :那我也只是要說你所謂的人望威信不是像你想的一樣，
→ dmdjjj      :因為最佳運動員選的備受爭議，而Dirk甚至到小牛整支
→ dmdjjj      :球隊其實並太不需要大牌老將壓其他人
→ dmdjjj      :笑話我多久沒出現了今天閒暇沒事講幾句又在扯清新健
→ dmdjjj      :康囉？
→ BTWay       :我也不太知道什麼是人望威信啦
→ BTWay       :但我相信d大一定頗有，畢竟你之前的文章都很有水準
推 LJY99       :所以kidd文章 可以召喚你出來  XD
→ BTWay       :總之我只是想表達贊同本文第三段的意見啦
→ BTWay       :其他問題，你可以問本文作者
→ BTWay       :http://search.espn.go.com/caplan_jeff/
推 dmdjjj      :召喚我？你是不是看錯什麼？我是在Jet那篇才出現
推 LJY99       :是哦!? 那我看錯了   因為這邊你的留言數比較多呦
→ LJY99       :我才會有錯覺~     顆顆
推 dmdjjj      :這跟留言數有關係嗎？從Jet那篇延伸至這篇很明顯不是
推 LJY99       :無關嗎!?  留言多不就代表最在意內容
→ LJY99       :有沒有延伸 我是看不出來啦!   :P
推 dmdjjj      :剛剛說召喚現在又說在意？你看不出來怪我囉~
推 LJY99       :有人怪你嗎!?
推 dmdjjj      :那講這麼多幹嘛？
推 LJY99       :講很多就是怪你!?   (話說 好像是你推文比較多喔)
推 dmdjjj      :我推文似乎並不是跟你，是你自己跳進來唷
→ DM24Tim     :=======大家適可而止吧  已經偏離討論的方向囉======
→ ahsoo       :對我而言,沒有驚動Yummy家族都還算ok的 XD
推 schatz8     :3j大你認真了 對某球員迷來說那位球員做什麼都是貢獻
→ schatz8     :在場上有無形的貢獻和靈氣貢獻 還可以幫助Dirk好心情
→ schatz8     :偉哉偉哉
→ ahsoo       :其實這個爭議一直存在,但就從建隊觀點來說,小牛需要
→ ahsoo       :是能切,能防的PG, 對傳球的要求沒那麼高
推 hotcom      :某些人看到 KIDD 又爆走囉~
推 maydayholic :有什麼好吵的= =
推 windlande   :某帳號戰老基不意外~~
推 n924127     :某帳號戰老基不意外+1
推 FTKBOYS     :某帳號戰老基不意外+2
推 illusory36  :某帳號戰老基不意外+3