作者evilvens (嘟嘟)
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標題[轉錄]Re: [討論] 熱火的問題及應該要的改變
時間Thu Mar 10 20:01:59 2011
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作者: howsiao (不再豪洨) 看板: NBA
標題: Re: [討論] 熱火的問題及應該要的改變
時間: Thu Mar 10 19:55:41 2011
ESPN Dean Oliver 的分析文, 簡單翻譯一下, 有錯請指正, 謝謝
Too much bouncing could get Heat bounced
By Dean Oliver
If LeBron and the Heat want to get past the league's better defenses, they
need to stop overdribbling.
如果 LeBron 和熱火想打敗聯盟中的防守強隊, 那就停止過多的運球吧
The problem with the Miami Heat has been alternately described as struggling in
good teams. The struggles in close games make for good drama. The struggles
against good teams make for significant worries in South Beach -- and there
are real reasons to be worried.
熱火真正需要擔心的問題是打不贏強隊
The “good teams” in this case are San Antonio, Boston, Chicago, and Dallas,
the teams with the best records in the NBA. Three of these four teams are
particularly good on the defensive side of the ball, Chicago ranking first,
Boston second, and San Antonio seventh in defensive efficiency. In the half
court, these teams are first, second, and fourth in defense.
這裡所謂的強隊是指馬刺, 超賽, 公牛, 小牛(目前聯盟前四強)
其中有三隊是聯盟中頂尖的防守強隊
防守效率排名: 公牛第一, 超賽第二, 馬刺第七
而在陣地戰時的防守效率, 這三隊分別排在聯盟第一, 第二和第四
Against these teams, the Heat have scored under 100 points per 100
possessions, about 10 points worse than their average. So not only are these
defenses very good, but they are also having more success against the Heat
than against the rest of the league. The Heat offense was supposed to be
unstoppable and this is, well, a far cry from that.
對戰這些球隊時, 熱火的進攻效率沒辦法破百, 比他們的平均值還少了 10分
熱火的進攻不是應該所向無敵嗎?
So these are the big-picture stats that support what we’re seeing, but why
is this happening?
When trying to answer this question, the first thing that jumps out to me
about the Heat as a team is that these guys dribble a lot.
第一個想到的原因就是熱火這些球員運球太多了
Dribble charts show where and how much teams dribble in order to score, and
the Heat have a big red area indicating that they dribble to score more than
any other team. Miami’s Big Three of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris
Bosh all dribble to create their own shots, and they all do so in the lane.
數據顯示, 熱火靠個人運球而得到的分數比任何一隊都多
熱火三巨頭都要是靠個人運球來創造投籃機會的球員
It’s great to have guys who can break a defense down off the dribble, but
the Big Three seems to need to do so. At this point, they haven’t shown the
ability to work off each other consistently.
有個能靠空手跑位撕裂對方防守的球員是美好的, 但熱火三巨頭看起來沒辦法
目前為止, 他們沒有顯示出有那個能力
In the half-court, the Heat have the lowest rate of assisted layups in the
league, and it isn’t close: Only 45 percent of their layups and dunks in the
half court are assisted, while the next-worst team is at 54 percent and the
league average is about 62 percent. The Celtics have 70 percent of their
half-court layups assisted, and the Lakers 69 percent. Other than the Heat,
the Bulls are the worst of the elite teams at 61 percent.
在陣地戰的進攻時, 熱火禁區得分的受助功率是全聯盟墊底的, 而且非常爛
(個人認為 assisted layups代表著easy basket, 應該是籃球中執行戰術最理想的結果)
熱火隊陣地戰時上籃或灌籃的受助攻率只有 45%, 第二差的球隊至少也有 54%
全聯盟的平均值是 62%
其他球隊在這個數據的表現: 超賽 70%, 湖人 69%, 公牛 61%
If the Miami stars drive to the middle, they are going to try to score or
kick it to the perimeter -- the offense relies on rim attacks and 3-pointers
by James Jones, Mario Chalmers, Mike Bibby, Eddie House and Mike Miller. It’
s very difficult for defenses to simultaneously protect the rim and stop the
3. Coaches around the league struggle with how to give rules to their players
to cover both.
當熱火球星切入時, 他們要不自己嘗試得分, 要不會傳給埋伏在外的射手
通常防守方要同時做到保護禁區和防守三分線是很困難的
Who has managed to do it? The Spurs and the Tom Thibodeau defenses, which are
in place in Boston and Chicago. And they appear to shut down those options
better than the Heat can create them.
但是馬刺和 Tom Thibodeau (超賽和公牛) 對這種進攻方式的防守卻很在行
Will the Heat be able to steamroll other teams? Sure. Even in their loss
against Portland on Tuesday, the Heat offense was good, scoring more than 110
points per 100 possessions.
所以其實熱火的進攻在對其他球隊時就沒有太大問題,
就像是輸給拓荒者的那場比賽, 他們進攻效率超過 110
(An aside: Miami’s defense was a sieve on Tuesday. Perhaps the pressure of
failing has created a tendency for the Heat defense to crumble, as effort and
emotion matter most on that side of the ball. That shouldn’t impact them as
much against weaker teams, where their pure physical advantage should carry
them. After all, James, Wade and Bosh are really good. The Timberwolves wish
they could cry over close losses to the Bulls.)
So how can the Heat score against the best defenses?
那麼, 熱火該怎麼打敗聯盟中最出色的防守呢?
How about a pick-and-roll, for cryin’ out loud! Go to the basket, guys!
打檔拆, 然後進攻籃筐
Contrary to his complaints, Bosh shouldn’t need plays run for him in order
to score. When the defense leaves him, he should go to the basket. When the
defense leaves a perimeter player, he should go to a place where he is
available and can score. That is not just the 3-point line, but also down the
lane.
Bosh 不應該抱怨教練沒有為他設計戰術給他得分
(這段有點不太清楚, 大概是講 Bosh 擋人後應該怎麼跑位, 讓熱火的進攻不只是
單調的個人切入或外傳投三分)
The Heat should be able to do this, as Wade and James do not have this
problem in their history. In previous seasons, they have been able to find
big men in the lane. Last season, James had 268 dimes to guys in the lane in
the half-court; this season, just 79. Last season, Wade had 145 assists to
guys in the lane in the half-court; this season, just 43.
熱火應該是有能力做到的, Wade 和 LBJ 過去都能做得到, 他們都有那個能力找到
空手切進籃下有空檔的隊友
上季, James 在陣地戰時為籃下的隊友傳出 268 次助攻, 本季只有 79 次
同樣的情況, Wade 上季有 145 次這種助攻, 本季只剩 43 次
How about a pick-and-roll with James setting the pick and then going to the
basket? Give the ball-handlers an inside option that is moving. Those top
defenses will have a harder time setting their big men at the top of the
charge circle and just waiting. Then they'll actually have to worry about
someone else who can score.
要不然試試看打一下讓 LBJ 去擋人的擋拆? LBJ 擋完後空切籃下?
這樣可以讓控球的球員多一個傳進籃下的選擇
那些頂尖的防守面對這種狀況應該就比較有困難了, LBj 空手切進來的速度會讓那
些球隊的大個子沒那麼容易即時補位
(好像還真的很少看過 LBJ 做擋人的擋拆?)
No one will care if Miami players were crying in March if they win in June.
They'll have to figure out how to move the ball on the inside if they are
going to give themselves a chance to do so.
如果最終熱火奪得總冠軍, 就不會有人在意他們在三月時哭哭了
但他們需要先找出怎麼樣把球傳進禁區的方法
Dean Oliver is director of analytics for ESPN.
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※ 編輯: evilvens 來自: 140.122.165.28 (03/10 20:02)
推 w61036:推一個 LD的助攻給籃下球員的次數都只大概剩1/4...囧... 03/10 20:17
→ w61036:看教練有沒有心不要永遠都LD殺翻全場.. 03/10 20:18
推 cookie06:所以說三巨頭都必需改變打法阿 不要在任性了!! 03/10 20:19
推 w61036:不過禁區薄弱真的也是很大問題 等小哈回來！信心回升10％ 03/10 20:20
→ evilvens:小哈快回來~~~ 03/10 20:28
推 pursue2:這應該是我們最好解了 L&D不會投三分就給我進去.. 03/10 20:28
推 Rubymiddle:當初感覺得差不多 球給不進禁區 就杯具了 03/10 21:18
→ idiotsmart:LBJ的確應該要減少過多的持球時間 運一運24秒就沒了 03/10 21:36
推 Rubymiddle:總板豪洨講到重點 我把他節錄過來 03/10 21:38
→ Rubymiddle:現在看到的是Wade/LBJ輪流控, 然後第一選擇都是切入 03/10 21:39
→ Rubymiddle:Bosh為了讓出空間給他們切, 所以只能帶到外面, 結果 03/10 21:39
→ Rubymiddle:就是熱火的進攻方式能出手的選擇變得有限, 沒人空切 03/10 21:39
→ Rubymiddle:禁區. 看來Wade跟LBJ有一個該讓出控球權的 03/10 21:40
→ Rubymiddle:以上By 豪洨ㄉㄉ 友講到重點 再配上這篇文 03/10 21:41
→ Rubymiddle:波許的問題不是很好解 現在處境真的有點困難 03/10 21:43
推 pursue2:我也說過他們應該讓出控球的 不然真的.. 03/10 21:49
推 Rubymiddle:不是分啥老大老二老三 反正就是無球跑動LD互相單檔都行 03/10 22:20
→ Rubymiddle:兩個運動力這麼屌的撕裂對方防守花樣其實很多 03/10 22:22
→ Rubymiddle:老包現在的數據應該濕探底了Orz 03/10 22:22
推 Acer3000:LBJ釋出控球+ P&R 不謀而合.. 03/10 23:37