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有點lag的話題 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/06/04/2008-06-04_johnny_damon_questions_joba_chamberlains-1.html?page=0 Johnny Damon questions Joba Chamberlain's move out of bullpen Wednesday, June 4th 2008, 11:45 PM 全篇很長 只挑大門講的話來翻譯 You can feel the concern creeping into the Yankee clubhouse. By now the Yankees are practically the home office for slow starts, but the players are all too aware that improved pitching throughout the American League East means it won't be so easy to bludgeon their way to the top this year. "We've seen that early on this year," Johnny Damon was saying at his locker Tuesday. "It's going to be tough to push across a lot of runs. So every game is precious. "We've gotta win the games we should win. We didn't do that on the last road trip. We could have been 5-2. Instead, we went 3-4. That's a big swing." 本季開季看到 我們得分不易 每一場比賽都很重要 必需把該贏的比賽贏下來 但最近的客場之旅我們沒做到 本來應該5勝2敗的 反而只有3勝4敗" We've gotta win the games we should win. In the language of ballplayers, that translates to not blowing games in the late innings. Which brings us to - what else? - the Joba Chamberlain debate. Don't think Chamberlain's move to the rotation isn't being second-guessed in the Yankee clubhouse. Not that anyone doubts he has the goods to be a No. 1 starter. The argument is where he helps the Yankees most right now, and I get the impression that if players voted by secret ballot, there would be a strong majority to send him back to the bullpen. Damon didn't come right out and say he opposed the move, as he spoke before Wednesday night's 5-1 victory over the Blue Jays. But he made it clear that he feels the Yankees had a better chance to succeed with Joba and Mariano Rivera teaming to lock down games in the late innings. "I just felt like our bullpen was our strength," Damon said. "I think it still could be, but when you move a guy like that, everyone's trying to find a role. Everyone's trying to replace a guy who was possibly the best in that role. "I remember the teams the Yankees won (championships) with, if they were winning after five innings, it was pretty much game over. We kind of felt that way this year. If we were winning after six, we had (Kyle) Farnsworth in the seventh, Joba in the eighth, and Mariano in the ninth - we thought it was game over. "Now, instead, we're trying to find out who's best suited for that eighth-inning role." 我只是覺得我們的牛棚是關鍵 我想現在仍是 但你把那樣的傢伙調走 找誰來頂 以前我們看洋基冠軍隊 只要前五局贏球 大概就是比賽結束 今年開季也有這樣的感覺 大概到第六局  第七局有Farnsworth 第八局有Joba 九局Mo 比賽結束 現在我們想要找個人 承擔第八局的責任 Wednesday night it was game over when the bullpen backed up Mike Mussina with three scoreless innings, including one from Farnsworth in the eighth with a four-run lead. Still, Farnsworth's track record indicates he's less than reliable in pressure situations, which is where Chamberlain excelled. Thus the sense of uncertainty. A couple of other players have offered similar opinions privately. It matters because if players have this in their heads, when a game is lost in the late innings it could weigh on a ballclub. Damon says he understands the organization's thinking, yet can't help wondering if the Yankee brass is getting ahead of itself. "We're trying to figure out what's going to be best for the team," said Damon, "and in the long run, that's what they're looking at. You'd have a starting rotation of (Phil) Hughes, Joba, Ian (Kennedy), and Chien-Ming Wang in the future. That's pretty good." 大門表示他理解球團的想法  也想怎麼做對球隊最好 長期來看  未來的先發輪值由(Phil) Hughes, Joba, Ian (Kennedy)和王建民組成 這樣也不錯 As for the present, Damon believes that in spite of the failures of Hughes and Kennedy, the starting pitching would have been good enough to take advantage of the bullpen strength Chamberlain provided. "I think we were still getting games into the late innings, and our offense is going to keep getting better," said Damon. "Now, you see what happens." 我想我們仍然能夠撐到比賽後段 我們的打線會越來越好 你看看我們現在 Damon seemed to be referring to losses in Baltimore and Minnesota on the recent road trip that were decided in the late innings, when the presence of Chamberlain in the pen might have changed the equation. He also compared moving Joba to doing something dramatic with Derek Jeter in the lineup. "You don't take Jeter out of the two-hole and put him in the seven-hole just because you're leaving the '4' and '5' guys on base," he said. "You let him do what he does best." 大門也把Joba的情況用隊長在打線中的位置做比喻 他說 "你不會隊長從第二棒調去打第七棒 只因為四五棒會上壘 你要讓他有最好的發揮 Damon wouldn't go so far as question the organization's intent to win this season. Then again, maybe it depends how you interpret this bit of analysis: "You understand the game, you understand the cycles," he said of himself. "This team is starting to get some of their drafted players up to the big leagues, and it's been a long time for them. You've gotta understand cycles of the game. This is one of them." 了解比賽 了解這個循環 球團開始讓農場選進來的球員上大聯盟 這是著眼長期的計畫 必需要了解比賽的循環 這是其中一部分 Finally, I asked Damon point-blank if he would have kept Chamberlain in the bullpen. "You know what?" he said with a smile. "It's not up to me. But I like winning ballgames." 被問到大門是否想讓張伯倫留在牛棚? 他帶著微笑回答 "你知道嗎 決定權不在我 但我喜歡贏球" It doesn't mean the Yankees have a mutiny in the clubhouse, or that they still can't reach the playoffs for a 14th straight season. But it could mean the front office, at least for the moment, has stolen a bit of belief from its own players. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.229.106.15
Minamii:看的出來對火牛陣有點不滿 06/06 15:39
fox1986:Damon:你知道嗎 決定權不在我 但我喜歡贏球 06/06 15:54
glayboy:其實還蠻中肯的,只是老闆不是他XD 06/06 15:55
RckS:大門:四五棒會上壘 阿布:你是對我有意見喔 06/06 16:44
jackselina:其實大門4.5棒會上壘的那個邏輯我不太懂 06/06 16:46
Hiro2:那句話的意思是說你不會因為45棒成為LOB就把隊長調到第7棒 06/06 16:50
nedekwn:也就是為了避免4.5棒上壘後 送不回來變成LOB 而把隊長調到 06/06 16:56
nedekwn:第七棒 有點挖這坑的土去補那坑的意思 06/06 16:57
ninetales:大門真性情~ 敢言敢當超愛他的! 06/06 17:08
Benitez:Damon偷婊丁eter...:「四五棒上壘,隊長就可以GIDP囉!」 06/06 17:18
Minamii:被nomaas酸了..這個問題見人見智啦..關鍵在找不到可靠的牛 06/06 17:27
etrana:大門說了好多話XD 06/06 18:11
l26921216:好牛難尋 火牛易得阿!!XD 06/06 18:43
TomCourtenay:veteran只想拿冠軍 練兵跟他沒關係阿XD 06/06 19:05
orangecats:我也喜歡贏球... 06/06 19:24
HwaJet: 擔心Mamon的直言 惹惱小老闆 (感覺小老闆很自我) 06/06 20:00
dracla:樓上,Damon? Mamon? 06/06 21:26
sycc:大門說的好啊! 調Joba到先發一直是計劃沒錯 但本季牛棚這麼囧 06/06 21:42
sycc:現在把他調走是雪上加霜.. 06/06 21:43
yslin6:通常老闆自己插手球隊運作,那戰績通常也會很差。 = = 06/06 23:56