→ frank94:總統投牛棚不太可能會比現在AAA的RP好 06/14 19:08
→ frank94:還有總統再怎麼說 也是去年top50的新秀 不要爆幾場就當 06/14 19:10
→ frank94:人家一無不值 吉總都說還會給他機會 假如他和休斯同 06/14 19:11
→ frank94:時都在 吉總說他也會想辦法解決這問題 06/14 19:12
→ frank94:他是洋基第一輪選的新秀 從大學到小聯盟一直成績不錯 06/14 19:13
→ frank94:但是第一輪會選擇他 就代表他也不是這麼不堪 06/14 19:14
→ frank94:不是那種本來被看扁 只是靠著小聰明或經驗起來的投手 06/14 19:14
Ian Kennedy就是你所謂"靠小聰明"的投手
→ frank94:這就看他未來的表現再說吧 他應該還會有兩三場以上的機會 06/14 19:25
→ frank94:他至少同時有top 50,first round,John Sickels的B+評價 06/14 19:27
說真的，top 50又怎樣?
拿你最喜歡說嘴的Sickels來講好了
2000:
Rick Ankiel, LHP
Kip Wells, RHP
Brad Penny, RHP
Eric Gagne, RHP
Matt Riley, LHP
Wilfredo Rodriguez, LHP
# Ed Yarnall, LHP
Ramon Ortiz, RHP
Ryan Anderson, LHP
John Patterson, RHP
Jesus Colome, RHP
Tony Armas, JR, RHP
Aaron Myette, RHP
A.J. Burnett, RHP
Luis Rivera, RHP
Junior Guerrero, RHP
Wes Anderson, RHP
Josh Beckett, RHP
2001:
Ryan Anderson, LHP
Ben Sheets, RHP
Josh Beckett, RHP
Jon Rauch, RHP
Roy Oswalt, RHP
C.C. Sabathia, LHP
Bobby Bradley, RHP
Chin-Hui Tsao, RHP
Ben Christensen, RHP
Jovanny Cedeno, RHP
Adam Johnson, RHP
Matt Belisle, RHP
Juan Cruz, RHP
Nick Neugebauer, RHP
Matt Kinney, RHP
Chris George, LHP
Tim Redding, RHP
Jesus Colome, RHP
Bud Smith, LHP
2002:
Josh Beckett, RHP
Dennis Tankersley, RHP
Juan Cruz, RHP
Mark Prior, RHP
Jake Peavy, RHP
Brandon Claussen, LHP
Boof Bonser, RHP
Rafael Soriano, RHP
Jeff Heaverlo, RHP
Corwin Malone, LHP
Dewon Brazelton, RHP
Kenny Baugh, RHP
Jimmy Journell, RHP
Adam Wainwright, RHP
Carlos Hernandez, LHP
Brad Thomas, LHP
Aaron Heilman, RHP
Seung Song, RHP
Kurt Ainsworth, RHP
2003 Top 50 Pitchers:
Jesse Foppert, RHP,
Francisco Rodriguez, RHP,
Rich Harden, RHP,
Jerome Williams, RHP,
Kurt Ainsworth, RHP,
Rafael Soriano, RHP,
Adam Wainwright, RHP,
Gavin Floyd, RHP,
Jeremy Bonderman, RHP,
Scott Kazmir, LHP,
Ricardo Rodriguez, RHP,
Aaron Heilman, RHP,
Macay McBride, LHP,
Brian Tallet, LHP,
Billy Traber, LHP,
Colby Lewis, RHP,
Jason Arnold, RHP,
Clint Nageotte, RHP,
Ryan Hannaman, LHP,
John VanBenschoten, RHP,
Kris Honel, RHP,
Ben Kozlowski, LHP,
Jason Young, RHP,
Sean Burnett, LHP,
Jon Figueroa, LHP,
Joel Hanrahan, RHP,
Boof Bonser, RHP,
Johan (Ervin) Santana, RHP,
Andy Sisco, LHP,
Bobby Basham, RHP,
Angel Guzman, RHP,
Joe Valentine, RHP,
Seong Song, RHP,
Franklyn German, RHP,
Dontrelle Willis, LHP,
Don Levinski, RHP,
Dewon Brazelton, RHP,
Dustin McGowan, RHP,
Zach Greinke, RHP,
John Patterson, RHP,
Kenny Nelson, RHP,
Cliff Lee, LHP,
Jimmy Gobble, LHP,
Andrew Brown, RHP,
Mike Nicolas, RHP,
Luke Hagerty, LHP,
John Rheinecker, LHP,
Taylor Buchholz, RHP,
Travis Foley, RHP,
Mike Gosling, LHP,
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就算是top 50，養成率有到50%嗎?
更不要說最後能留下來的投手，有99%都是真正有ace stuff的
有像Kennedy這種軟趴趴的最後還投的不錯的嗎? 恐怕很少很少吧
而且Sickels最為人詬病的就是他把數據看太重
講難聽一點
連Will Inman還沒到2A時都可以給grade B了，還有什麼做不出來?
最後，拿Kennedy跟某位性質類似的投手比較一下
不知道這樣是不是可以能讓大家更公正的評斷投手?
Ian Kennedy
Year Age Level ERA GS IP H R ER HR BB SO H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP
2004 19 NCAA 2.91 15 92.2 86 34 30 4 31 120 8.35 0.39 3.01 11.65 1.26
2006 21 NCAA 3.90 15 101.2 100 57 44 4 36 102 8.85 0.35 3.19 9.03 1.34
不知名投手:
Year Age Level ERA GS IP H R ER HR BB SO H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP
2002 19 NCAA 4.40 17 92.0 80 46 45 4 32 74 7.83 0.39 3.13 7.24 1.22
2003 20 NCAA 1.96 19 133.1 87 35 29 7 20 144 5.87 0.47 1.35 9.72 0.80
2004 21 NCAA 1.63 19 144.0 81 31 26 8 21 213 5.06 0.50 1.31 13.31 0.71
2008 25 MLB 4.45 14 85.0 88 43 42 10 23 60 9.32 1.06 2.44 6.35 1.31
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推 wang4320:~_~ 06/15 22:02
推 greengreen42:我覺得Sickels還有會過度樂觀的毛病 06/15 22:05
推 bluemelan:01年有Sheets,Beckett,Oswalt,C.C...@@ 星光閃閃 06/15 22:06
→ bluemelan:沒想到時間這麼快 印象中才沒多久前注意到他們而已 06/15 22:06
推 maxspeed150:Ed Yarnall後來有跑去日本打一年喔 06/15 22:06
推 bluemelan:還記得某年的馬大魚先發五人都算星光閃閃 06/15 22:08
→ bluemelan:有D-train,A.J Burnett,北極,和....Painvano 06/15 22:10
推 eric155783:還有Penny 06/15 22:15
推 bluemelan:喔對 XD 忘了說Penny了 那時候印象很深刻的是他們好幾個 06/15 22:22
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推 disasterD:之前覺得曹最有可能上mlb且穩定 世事難料.... 06/15 22:29
推 rogergon:J. Weaver 是「不知名投手」喔，他球速比總統快3mph耶。 06/15 22:56
推 ninini:我覺得吸口汁不算是過度樂觀啦 評新秀來講算是ok 只是要看 06/15 23:02
→ ninini:參考的人要怎麼用它 06/15 23:03
推 warchiefdodo:J. Weaver球速大概在LOW 90吧~ 06/15 23:57
推 abing75907:可以請問一下abc大 什麼是"靠小聰明"?? 06/16 00:27
→ abing75907:怎麼能肯定總統是靠小聰明投球的痾~? 06/16 00:28
推 ckyuzi:靠小聰明的意思是不是靠stuff而是純靠make-up 06/16 00:34
→ ckyuzi:至於什麼是stuff 去王or mlb版爬文吧 06/16 00:34
推 graywolf:王版已經變成神廟了 ... 06/16 00:49
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→ fifth:說到沒stuff 光芒的Sonnanstine更沒stuff 06/16 01:02
推 chengone:王:好險,差點LOB 6.... 06/16 03:03
→ chengone:sorry,推錯 06/16 03:04