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http://tinyurl.com/3tl8p3 In this baseball winter that will be dominated by free-agent starting pitchers, the most intriguing commodity might be a young, frontline starter who already is signed to a reasonable contract. Whom would you rather have? CC Sabathia for six years and $150 million? Or Jake Peavy for four years and $63 million? The Padres, coming off a 63-99 season, will at least explore a Peavy trade, general manager Kevin Towers confirmed to Newsday. ESPN's Buster Olney first reported that possibility this past week. The Yankees are among the teams with prospects that interest the Padres, although it's not clear whether Peavy would waive his no-trade clause to come to the Bronx. "Coming off 99 losses, we're going to a little bit of a younger core club," Towers said Friday in a telephone interview. "I guess it's worth at least exploring to see what he would bring back." Towers said he hasn't yet initiated trade discussions. Rather, much as Cleveland's Mark Shapiro did when preparing to deal Sabathia, Towers is targeting teams with young talent that interests him; it's hard to see the Mets having enough. The price figures to be immense, although the Padres' financial health is unclear because of the divorce proceedings of owner John Moores. Peavy, 27, will make $11 million in 2009, $15 million in 2010, $16 million in 2011 and $17 million in 2012. He has a $22-million team option for 2013 with a $4-million buyout. Last week, he expressed frustration with the team's direction, telling San Diego reporters: "I want to be here, but I want to be here with a chance to win a World Series. If someone says, 'Hey, we're going to rebuild, that's not going to be our top priority,' you certainly would wonder what your other options are." Specifically, Peavy wants to see whether the Padres bring back rightfielder Brian Giles - who has a $9-million team option for 2009 with a $3- million buyout - and closer Trevor Hoffman, an impending free agent. Towers expressed confidence that both players will be back. Peavy's agent, Barry Axelrod, who lives in the San Diego area and is very friendly with Towers, said: "My guess is, unless somebody knocks their socks off this offseason, I don't expect that Jake will be moved. I would think that starting the middle of next year and into the next offseason, there could be a significant possibility of Jake being moved" because of Peavy's significant raise from 2009 to 2010. It could be that Peavy, who was born and still lives in Alabama, wouldn't approve a trade to the Yankees. Said Axelrod: "I'm not sure how many teams he would approve, but I have no doubt that he would not be Eddie Whitson [with the Yankees]. He could handle the pressure in New York." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.126.144.175
kimkim:如果真的換到Peavy不知洋基還要不要搶cc 10/05 18:56
appshjkli:我們農場有那麼多東西可以換嗎- -||| 10/05 18:56
kimkim:大概就是除了joba外剩下隨便挑了=.=||| 10/05 18:57
Sechslee:我覺得現金人不會換耶XD 不過我個人是蠻想看Peavy穿條紋 10/05 18:57
kimkim:休斯.總統通通帶走吧 10/05 18:58
wang4320:希望他們會喜歡井川.... 10/05 18:58
appshjkli:A-Jax+Hughes+Montero+Ian....? 10/05 18:59
Sechslee: +Igawa (誤 10/05 18:59
kimkim:教士開這種包裹也不用很意外吧...畢竟是Peavy... 10/05 18:59
kimkim:而且Peavy的約看起來很便宜耶...這樣教士籌碼更多 10/05 19:00
tulas:希望A-Jax不要被點名 10/05 19:02
appshjkli:A-Jax+Hughes+Montero+Horne+Melancon ;這樣就挖空了 10/05 19:04
Tzylu:看到六樓我笑了... 10/05 19:05
kimkim:後面四個換一個Peavy我可以接受 10/05 19:05
akainorei:感覺會被挖很大捏 10/05 19:12
redsnipertd:一定要的,proven ACE約又很漂亮 10/05 19:17
siliver:真要換到Peavy一定要有農場被洗劫一空的心理準備,我還擔心 10/05 19:19
daimou:都來都來吧~~3億美金丟出來灑 10/05 19:19
siliver:農場人家看不上眼呢..... 10/05 19:19
NcThoR:換吧換吧~ 10/05 19:20
JackSmith:Peavy來的話,有點怕會像當年R.Johnson一樣.... 10/05 19:21
JackSmith:投的不差,可是感覺就是沒像在國聯時那麼威 10/05 19:22
tulas:Peavy來下修是正常的,球場不一樣了嘛,不過一定還是Ace級 10/05 19:25
siliver:什麼都怕的話就養新秀囉,科科. 10/05 19:25
mightymouse:人要換,CC也要搶 10/05 19:26
appshjkli:嗯,不過我要說今天還是Cashman當家 10/05 19:28
appshjkli:像這種掏空農場的交易很可能只是個乳摸飄過而已 10/05 19:28
appshjkli:因為咱家的GM對農場比鄉民(像Hank)要來的有耐心多了 10/05 19:29
siliver:恩,這倒是,現金人對於農場的厚愛真不像是洋基的GM...... 10/05 19:30
jshuang:[公仔] Peavy .............. 10/05 19:38
sherlockt:!!!皮皮公仔!!! 10/05 19:40
JoshBeckeet:怎麼會拿RJ比.... PV現在年紀輕....又是全盛期 10/05 19:41
cardfat:peavy也不見得便宜要看他waive NTC的條件 10/05 19:45
cardfat:是花點錢買斷 撿起選擇權 還是重談一張新的 10/05 19:45
Bzbon:Hughes不是說是大物嗎 有可能送他走來換嗎 10/05 19:45
jason0925:如果是 皮+C.C+鐵爺 ...洋基可以穩個好幾年了 = = 10/05 19:46
akainorei:樓上, 想太多, 這很難辦到 10/05 19:47
Sechslee:Peavy+C.C 就夠威了 至少威這幾年沒問題 10/05 19:53
hzc0725:不太可能丟Hughes吧 以現金人來說 10/05 19:53
fedona:COME ON BABY 10/05 19:57
larusa:自己真的養不起來 不丟難道放著讓他爛 丟出去別人養的起 10/05 19:57
jayin07:我們要的帝國!!帝國啊!! 10/05 19:58
larusa:來是他們厲害 球隊又不是只繞著一個球員轉 只是有些人能 10/05 19:58
larusa:獲得比較多的機會罷了 但絕不是無限多的機會 10/05 19:58
appshjkli:看一看爽一爽就好;不爽的人應該去詛咒Cashman 10/05 19:58
jayin07:appshjkli。新梗馬上用xD 10/05 19:59
kenro:關皮耶..這一定要換的阿 休斯就丟..一直留著養也不是辦法 10/05 20:14
kenro:關皮+沙胖+小王..有這三隻簡直穩到靠杯 未來5年可以很放心 10/05 20:17
sxxs: CC+皮皮的話 明年真是爽了.....純粹想像一下.... 10/05 20:17
k33536:關皮的白工偃月刀.........XD 10/05 20:18
kenro:其實農場又不是多強..該掏的還是得給 我是不看好還能養出什 10/05 20:19
webrose:CC+皮+鐵爺...這三個就是寒假作業啦~~~ 10/05 20:22
kenro:近幾年能出小Q+小王+張伯倫已經很不錯了 其他頂多再長一兩隻 10/05 20:23
subcrew02:哈 白工偃月刀 XD 10/05 20:23
BlowMe:換吧 Hughes也未必可以長成Peavy Peavy才27歲 10/05 20:24
Jiuliano1412:Peavy!!!希望來了 10/05 20:26
kenro:倒覺得反而不用太去搶鐵爺 因為未來幾年最不缺的就是1B... 10/05 20:26
meier0112:cashman在山大王都捨不得換了,要換Peavy除非換gm 10/05 20:28
jayin07:教士FO,錢球三人組不是喊假的.... 10/05 20:29
meier0112:不過Peavy為啥生涯主客場成績差這麼多... 10/05 20:29
jayin07:because of Petco Park 10/05 20:30
jayin07:所以有人覺得Peavy被overrate 10/05 20:31
meier0112:單看主客場成績,我也會這麼覺得..今年客場era 4.28..orz 10/05 20:35
benken512:mei大 去年的大帝總統與今年的期待不一樣 10/05 20:40
appshjkli:so what?我還是不認為Cashman會挖農場換Peavy 10/05 20:41
meier0112:也是因為不一樣所以要出更大的包裹去填,農場快空了 10/05 20:43
meier0112:這跟cashman的主張不一樣,何況現在FA有大物 10/05 20:46
jayin07:先看看Phil的cutter能丟到什麼程度吧lol... 10/05 20:47
jayin07:這兩個人都各缺一種可以對付左/右打者的球... 10/05 20:48
afulet:CC+Peavy+鐵爺 收集GET!! 10/05 20:49
meier0112:Nolasco跟他蠻像的,曲球使用率25%以上 10/05 20:51
meier0112:但他使用曲球對左打,滑球對右打.偶爾來個變速 10/05 20:52
JoshBeckeet:我終於知道為何馬大魚把投手都出清了..因為他們缺 10/05 20:52
meier0112:Hughes上一場也用曲球來K一堆左打 10/05 20:53
meier0112:且使用cutter來主對付左打的投手寥寥可屬 10/05 20:59
meier0112:上述是以使用Hughes這種 slow CB為主的的投手 10/05 21:03
jayin07:我是這樣想的;基本上他沒辦法對付左打,自己人不可能不 10/05 21:04
siliver:的確,說歸說,但要現金人倒農場去換實在是很難..... 10/05 21:04
jayin07:知道,因為看minor都會看到他面對的隊伍都會把LHB擺上XD 10/05 21:05
jayin07:那顆一般人拿來丟左投change,在這兩年看起來是沒很大作用 10/05 21:06
meier0112:我是覺得Nolasco能以曲球對付左打,Hughes應也可以 10/05 21:08
jayin07:那顆殺爆高中生的slider,可能也起不了作用,所以把他放棄了 10/05 21:08
jayin07:但是事實上Hughes的曲球真的可以吃掉大部分的左打... 10/05 21:09
jayin07:我想他最起碼可以在MLB丟出4、5號 10/05 21:10
meier0112:看上一場他曲球對左打頗有威力 10/05 21:10
loloool:Peavy好阿 來美聯在怎麼上修起碼是個200IP+的工作馬 10/05 21:10
jayin07:不需要把一場球賽放太大啊... 10/05 21:11
JoshBeckeet:工作馬正夯 10/05 21:11
meier0112:不過上一場只是今年他在MLB曲球控球最好的一場.. 10/05 21:11
jayin07:在3A那場的聯盟冠軍賽,他的曲球狀況也是好到不行... 10/05 21:11
jayin07:但是長期反應在數據上面的結果是,他會被左打打爆 10/05 21:11
kenro:樣本還不大 不太能看的出來是怎麼一回事..真的別太高估了 10/05 21:12
meier0112:一但他控不進去,能否以直球卡特兩個直球系加變速對付mlb 10/05 21:12
jayin07:所以現在趁著arm slot改回來比較偏側投的位置... 10/05 21:13
kenro:倒是覺得要是關皮的交易菜單中 要是能順便包走小卡布+井川. 10/05 21:13
JoshBeckeet:Hughes在major能投的跟Jered Weaver一樣 就很棒了 10/05 21:14
jayin07:所以趁這個時候給他一顆cutter,目的是cover他的curve 10/05 21:14
meier0112:這是這種low90投手沒幾個有辦到的事 10/05 21:14
jayin07:基本上,他還是still has time...他才22歲而已 10/05 21:15
meier0112:光想直球卡特加從來不行的變速.這不被轟慘嗎 10/05 21:16
j094097:教士怎麼會想把看板丟出來= =... 10/05 21:16
appshjkli:still has time...讓我想到Eric Duncan 10/05 21:17
jayin07:基本上你的fastball最起碼要有control... 10/05 21:18
appshjkli:Eric的那個still has time從他22歲到現在整個沒救了 10/05 21:18
jayin07:curve控不好還不打緊,萬一fastball連control都消失了 10/05 21:19
jayin07:可能下場就跟Buckholz一樣... 10/05 21:19
jayin07:*今年 10/05 21:19
JoshBeckeet:會像BBBBBholz 一樣被爆 10/05 21:20
jayin07:科科,我覺得Buckholz是因為疲勞過度哦 XD 10/05 21:20
akainorei:他那是投球失憶嗎? 10/05 21:20
akainorei:XD 10/05 21:20
meier0112:我指的是某場先發突然curve控不進去..剩直球卡特.不就ko 10/05 21:20
JoshBeckeet:不過跟他同梯的Weaver 幾乎已經站穩major了@@ 10/05 21:20
j094097:突然講Buckholz我還反應不過來是誰XDDDDD 10/05 21:20
jayin07:我覺得跟他女朋友比較有關係,當然這是玩笑話 XD 10/05 21:21
jayin07:剩FB跟cutter還ok,起碼control要有,請隊友多幫忙... 10/05 21:21
sxxs: 蠻欣賞Buckholz 的....應該是疲勞過度... 10/05 21:22
meier0112:weaver同期,我以為他跟Homer Bailey和Gallardo才是 10/05 21:23
meier0112:覺得cutter也頂多cover用,不如專注在四種球種的控球 10/05 21:25
kenro:越聊越遠了..不是在討論關皮交易嗎? 怎麼變成球路分析.. 10/05 21:28
meier0112:除非FA 大物SP沒搶到半隻,才會考慮PV吧 10/05 21:33
meier0112:對教士而言,搶劫沒買到FA SP的球隊才是最有利 10/05 21:38
jayin07:我對教士的FO很有興趣.... 10/05 21:39
jayin07:Paul DePodesta,Kevin Towers,Sandy Alderson... 10/05 21:41
meier0112:也因此,沒人認為洋基搶不到半隻吧,所以教士不如搶其他隊 10/05 21:43
redsnipertd:如果今年Dodgers拿冠軍,DePo真應該拿個戒指 10/05 21:50
hzc0725:Hughes怎麼說養不起來呢@@ 只是真的傷病纏身吧 10/05 22:02
hzc0725:另外鐵爺應該不用考慮了吧? 寧願簽Dunn 還可守兩個位置XD 10/05 22:03
jayin07:病痛纏身真的會讓很多人殞落... 10/05 22:05
jayin07:不過Hughes這次沒傷到他的手臂... 10/05 22:06
j094097:是傷到肋骨嗎? 有點忘記了囧 10/05 22:07
appshjkli:他傷到的地方都不是他的右手:P 10/05 22:07
siliver:問題是這也很慘啊,右手沒事其他地方輪流痛也沒路用..... 10/05 22:10
jayin07:慘的程度比傷到手臂好lol... 10/05 22:10
TrueTears:你看痛痛人也不是都傷到手阿XD 10/05 22:12
appshjkli:他有傷到手過 10/05 22:13
jayin07:手臂算是投手的生命,只要傷過,一輩子都會有標籤 10/05 22:14
siliver:痛痛不是有開TJ?? 10/05 22:14
siliver:不過的確不只手啦,真慘...... 10/05 22:15
appshjkli:Hughes手也是有傷病史在,所以球團對他投球保護蠻小心的 10/05 22:19
appshjkli:結果之後連進DL都跟他的手無關:P 10/05 22:20
OoyaoO:我們拿什麼跟人家換 這個交易一定要屠城的 10/05 23:30
alex710707:問A-JAX是誰阿 10/05 23:32
gerkk:看來看去還是花錢買比較快 10/05 23:38
philluke:我們農場目前最有潛力的CF.... 10/05 23:45
devilsky:Peavy+CC 清出來的薪資就差不多要去掉一半了 10/05 23:49
subcrew02:A-Jax = Austin Jackson 10/05 23:54
Kinra:Ajax XDDD 虧他們想得出來 10/05 23:57
kinghwang443:可以不動到A-Jax和Montero我就換 10/05 23:59
meier0112:很可惜農場除了這兩個也沒剩多少了 10/06 00:10
appshjkli:我們野手沒養幾個起來- - 10/06 00:11
lamoureux:Peavy來吧XD喜歡你很久了~ 10/06 00:18
subcrew02:"throw unlimited dollars" at CC 剛看到的 10/06 00:35
appshjkli:就砸錢嘛 10/06 00:36
subcrew02:看來真的非CC不可… 10/06 00:37
j094097:買來應該會有不錯的實質效益 10/06 00:38
jacky77437:教士應該是想清薪資吧 畢竟PEAVY的約對教士來說很大 10/06 00:45
OoyaoO:CC只要錢 PV要屠城的 不一樣 10/06 00:47
appshjkli: 空城 10/06 00:48
OoyaoO:http://0rz.tw/1c4PL PV的生涯數據 主客場差很大 10/06 00:48
OoyaoO:出賽場次差不多 可是HR數量差別很大 10/06 00:49
OoyaoO:如果要被屠到空城 換來的效益卻不是個有絕對宰制力的ACE 10/06 00:51
OoyaoO:這樣有意義嗎QQ 10/06 00:51
philluke:那就殺價吧? 盡量不要被屠有沒有辦法? 10/06 00:53
j094097:Peavy還是留在國聯吧XD 10/06 00:53
appshjkli:你要殺價誰管你,Peavy要賣大家搶著要勒 10/06 00:54
OoyaoO:他對左打者的SLG也高了快0.1 這裡是洋基球場 應該是有差別 10/06 00:56
penny50514:爆 10/06 00:56
OoyaoO:如果只要錢 當然要搶 要被屠城我認為就不值得了 10/06 00:57
jacky77437:只要不動到A-JAX 我覺得農場被拿多一點也還好 10/06 00:58
appshjkli:我還寧願留Montero勒,A-Jax我不是很看好他 10/06 01:00
Shywei:A-JAX跟各隊有些CF年輕肉體比起來 的確是有段差距 不用期待 10/06 01:01
philluke:至少目前看來天花板算不錯的啊~"~ 10/06 01:04
appshjkli:Montero如果長起來會是個年產30+HR的大砲 10/06 01:05
philluke:但他的守備目前看起來距離也還遠的 10/06 01:06
JoshBeckeet:Montero很讚啊 我很看好他 10/06 01:06
meier0112:a-jax本來就只有期待長的比平均稍好就足夠了 10/06 01:11
meier0112:a-jax只要不要讓CF變成洞,畢竟不需每個位置都allstar吧 10/06 01:14
jayin07:最基本的期望是.280/.350/.480.... 10/06 01:18
OoyaoO:可以到樓上講的這種成績然後便宜用至少6年很賺了... 10/06 01:18
Shywei:有這麼爽就好了= = 10/06 01:19
meier0112:有slg.480,就爽翻了 10/06 01:19
jayin07:yep,我怕他contact上major會被吃更兇lol 10/06 01:20
appshjkli:他只要每年給我.270/350/400就滿足了 10/06 01:20
appshjkli:而且他好像也不是跑的特別快的樣子 10/06 01:21
meier0112:樓上說的這樣就很不賴了,自己養又便宜,錢拿去補其他 10/06 01:21
jayin07:而且還是middle field,看起來也挺爽的 10/06 01:22
redsnipertd:麻煩不要給我Melky 2.0,我就爽了... 10/06 01:23
kinghwang443:Montero慢慢來,只要在老波合約到之前養好就可了 10/06 01:28
OoyaoO:樓上你沒考慮老波合約到前是不是還是捕手 10/06 01:30
appshjkli:2A有一個tools還不錯的應該可以先撐著用 10/06 01:31
OoyaoO:只好Cervelli頂著先 10/06 01:32
jayin07:哦,我怕到時候Montero沒辦法蹲捕手 10/06 01:36
meier0112:.270/350/400..Melky第一年也打出.280/.360/.391 10/06 01:36
jayin07:到時候搞不好是丟去1B,捕手Cervelli/Romine 10/06 01:36
meier0112:後來就是三聚氰胺加太多 10/06 01:36
appshjkli:他站1B的話也是個不錯的選手 10/06 01:37
appshjkli:不過貓兒那麼大隻也能蹲捕手了沒道理蹲不成啦 10/06 01:37
jayin07:他在minor蹲71場就被盜破百次,看起來會怕啦。 10/06 01:39
OoyaoO:71場被盜破百次 囧rz? 10/06 01:40
redsnipertd:會怕就好 10/06 01:42
OoyaoO:如果他能在MLB打出Posada的成績我不介意他阻殺只有2成5 10/06 01:43
OoyaoO:可是現在好像才1成多T.T 阻殺這玩兒可以練嗎? 10/06 01:44
meier0112:sb/cs 79/26..年輕小夥子都很愛跑 10/06 01:44
meier0112:有快兩成五拉,Romine還比他慘咧78/20 10/06 01:47
appshjkli:Romine也是很棒的新秀;跟Montero組起來打三四棒勒 10/06 01:49
appshjkli:不過打擊好防守怎麼就爛,Romine應該有很棒的臂力才對... 10/06 01:51
jayin07:scout有提過是他體型太大,動作不協調吧lol... 10/06 01:52
OoyaoO:76/26 還好嘛= = 看jayin07說得很可怕 10/06 01:53
jayin07:哦,我忘記減掉 10/06 01:54
appshjkli:被盜壘破百次沒錯啊 79+26=105 10/06 01:54
appshjkli:大家看他大隻就盡量盜壘勒 10/06 01:54
jayin07:一般捕手在MLB蹲140場很正常吧,球季到一半就76次,有點.. 10/06 01:55
OoyaoO:我以為是被SB破百次=.= 76/26還OK的嘛XD 10/06 01:55
subcrew02:只抓到26是怎樣 10/06 01:55
j094097:該不會阻殺這種事情很講天份的吧= =" 10/06 01:56
OoyaoO:要看的是阻殺率吧 如果被盜很多但也抓到很多 這蠢的是對手 10/06 01:56
appshjkli:有抓到這樣就算不錯了;他還那麼大隻勒 10/06 01:56
kevin0149:阻殺率唯一沒有疑問的就是可以看出阻殺很爛的捕手 10/06 01:57
jayin07:這倒是,長成OPS.88的捕手,我們1B還可以從FA補隻大的呢:p 10/06 01:58
kevin0149:阻殺好的對手不敢盜 樣本數反而少 10/06 01:58
j094097:可以跟二哥請教一下XD 10/06 01:59
OoyaoO:捕手OPS有.88 阻殺率2成5還有什麼好不滿足的 不過前提是他 10/06 01:59
OoyaoO:可以一路把成績複製到MLB再說 10/06 01:59
jayin07:我們捕手有三隻不錯可以玩抽獎... 10/06 02:00
jayin07:全滅的話我也沒話說... 10/06 02:00
appshjkli:現在還有一隻Kyle Higashioka 10/06 02:00
OoyaoO:大推全滅我也沒話說XD 10/06 02:01
jayin07:哦,我忘記這人了,我記得是用40-50萬USD讓他棄學的? 10/06 02:02
jayin07:科科,當初還想去大上學呢,慣用計兩lol 10/06 02:02
j094097:我看到Kyle就想到某人...XDDDDD 10/06 02:02
OoyaoO:最完美是三隻全練起來 還可以拿一隻去搶人(毆飛) 10/06 02:06
Sechslee:喔喔喔 CC燃燒中 10/06 02:15
kinghwang443:CC燃燒中??酒鬼現在不是0:5落後中 10/06 02:19
appshjkli:中繼上了:P 10/06 02:20
j094097:上來代打而已 沒有投 10/06 02:20
Sechslee:結果沒上 我猜不透這個神之調度 XD 10/06 02:21
Tyrone:強投豪打呀 這才叫神 10/06 02:37
subcrew02:有謠言說 Hughes+Melky for Peavy 10/06 12:53
OoyaoO:樓上這樣換得到 教士的GM可以去死了=.= 10/06 13:01
papazzz:樓上那包裹是想搶劫吧... 10/06 13:02
Sechslee:教士FO這麼佛心? 我不相信 lol 10/06 13:02
subcrew02:也只是雙方簡單的商談…並沒有任何進展 10/06 13:05
chanli:真的很不希望把Hughe丟出去.... 畢竟都養好久了 很期待 10/06 13:46
chanli:還小隻的時候 沒交易出去 今年丟不好更不應該送出去阿~ 10/06 13:47
OoyaoO:這包裹應該真的能換到PV 只是不包含右手 10/06 14:05
jackselina:不是用IAN+MELKY就可以換到了嗎?(MVP化) 10/06 14:41
kenro:再加個井川應該很夠意思了吧 XDD 10/06 16:43
stan7228:加井川 會扣分.... 10/06 16:46
phchih:加 Duncan. XD 10/06 18:59
lgs123:all in 了啦 10/12 00:43