作者MarianoWu (銀河水瓶)
看板NY-Yankees
標題Re: [討論] Five + Five = Success for the Yankees
時間Sun Feb 1 00:22:12 2009
※ 引述《Belladonaa ()》之銘言:
: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/five-five-success-for-the-yankees
: A couple of weeks ago, I took a look at the impressive pitching depth that
: has been compiled by the Boston Red Sox, mostly at the Major League level.
: The New York Yankees organization, a division mate of the Sox, also has some
: nice depth on hand in case injuries strike the Major League starting rotation.
幾星期前, 我看了看紅襪隊那令人令人印象深刻的投手陣容, 幾乎都是大聯盟等級.
同區的洋基現在也擁有不錯的投手深度以免傷病問題影響到先發陣容.
: With a few weeks to go until spring training, the Yankees’ rotation
: currently includes free agent signees C.C. Sabathia, and A.J. Burnett,
: holdovers Andy Pettitte, and Chien-Ming Wang, as well as Mr. Can-Do-It-All
: Joba Chamberlain. That is a pretty formidable rotation if everyone is healthy
: and pitching up to their potential.
離春訓還有幾星期, 現在洋基的先發投手輪值包含了從自由球員市場簽來的Sabathia和
Burnett, Pettitte, 王葛格和"無所不能先生"Chamberlain. 如果每個都能健康出賽且
有水準演出, 這將是一個相當難以對付的先發輪值.
: But as we all know, in the game of baseball no organization is safe from the
: injury bug - especially when it comes to the pitching staff. We also need to
: keep in mind that Chamberlain has never pitched more than 118.2 innings in a
: season - and that was at the University of Nebraska in 2005.
但我們大家都知道在棒球比賽中, 沒有球隊可以免於傷兵問題, 尤其是發生在投手身上.
我們也必須了解到無所不能先生的單季投球局數未曾超過118.2局,這是2005年他在
University of Nebraska所投出的局數.
: Luckily, the Yankees have at least five young starting pitchers who will be a
: phone call away at the organization’s Triple-A affiliate in
: Scranton-Wilkes/Barre: Phil Hughes, Alfredo Aceves, Phil Coke, Ian Kennedy,
: and Eric Hacker.
幸運的是, 洋基在3A農場擁有至少五位不錯的年輕先發投手: Hughes, Aceves, Coke,
Kennedy和Hacker.
: Hughes has been, in a word, disappointing. Injuries and general
: ineffectiveness have taken a toll on his reputation amongst fans in New York
: but there is good news. He’s only 22 years old, which is something that is
: easy to forget. And although he posted a 6.62 ERA in 34 big league innings in
: 2008, Hughes’ FIP was just 4.34 and he may never have actually been healthy
: last season. He also had a 4.46 ERA (4.35 FIP) in 72.2 MLB innings at the age
: of 21. The projection systems for 2009, including Bill James, CHONE and
: Marcel, vary somewhat, but they all suggest reasonable production for a
: 23-year-old starting pitcher.
到目前為止, Hughes的表現是令人失望的, 傷痛問題與表現不佳使得他在球迷心中的
身望逐漸下降. 還好他只有22歲, 還處於成長階段. 雖然2008年他在大聯盟出賽的34
局的防禦率是6.62, 但他的FIP 只有4.34而且他上個賽季可能未曾以絕好調狀態出賽
過.
: Kennedy, like Hughes, faced pretty high expectations after being selected out
: of USC with the 21st overall pick of the 2006 draft. A number of teams
: avoided the right-hander in the draft because his success in college came
: despite dominating stuff. The same can be said for his minor league success,
: which includes an eye-popping 1.99 ERA in 226 innings. Kennedy has been a
: different pitcher at the Major League level. He sports an 8.17 ERA (5.45 FIP)
: and has allowed 50 hits in 39.2 innings. With a little more experience (and
: possibly a little more use of his breaking ball), he should become a pretty
: successful No. 4 starter, if nothing more.
如同Hughes, Kennedy在2006年選秀會上的21順位選走後就被寄於高度期望. 雖然擁有
好素質, 選秀會上一些球團因為他的未來性有限而沒有挑選他(OS:我有翻錯嗎?).同樣
的道理也可以解釋他在小聯盟的表現, 226 局的投球防禦率是出色的1.99. 但他在大
聯盟的表現就判若兩人. 39.2局的投球防禦率是8.17(FIP:5.45), 並被敲出50隻安打.
若有更多出賽經驗(多使用一些變化球), 他應該可以成為稱職的四號先發, 如果沒意外
的話......
: Aceves appeared out of nowhere in 2008, after previously being expunged from
: the Toronto Blue Jays Dominican Summer League team. In one season, the
: right-hander rose from High-A ball to the Majors. The problem, though, is
: that Aceves pitched far more innings in 2008 than he ever had before, having
: played in short-season leagues. His 170.2 innings could be seen as a warning
: sign for 2009. As well, his 2.40 ERA does not look quite as rosy after
: looking at his FIP (4.80) and strikeout rate (4.80 K/9).
在被藍鳥隊的多明尼加夏季聯盟球隊除名後, Aceves在2008年從不知名處冒出頭來.
短短一季中, 他從高階1A晉升大聯盟. 但潛在問題是他在2008年的投球局數遠超過他
以前曾負擔過的, 他只在短季聯盟效力過. 他的170.2投球局數會被視為警訊. 此外,
在看過他的FIP (4.80)與三振率(4.80 K/9)後, 他的防禦率2.40看起來就不是那麼
美好.
: Marketing opportunities abound with Phil Coke. The 26-year-old left-handed
: pitcher has put up some nice minor league numbers. He had a solid Major
: League debut in the bullpen for the Yankees and allowed just eight hits in
: 14.2 innings. He also posted a 0.61 ERA (1.63 FIP) in those 12 games. There
: are not a lot of southpaws that can average 93 mph.
Coke常出現在球員交易消息上. 這26歲的左投已在小聯盟已投出不錯的成績. 初次升上
大聯盟, 在洋基牛棚出賽也有出色表現. 14.2局中只被打8 隻安打. 12場比賽中的防禦
率是0.61(FIP:1.63). 沒有幾個左投的球投均速是93mph.
: Hacker, 25, was a recent addition to the Yankees’ 40-man roster and he
: follows along the same path as Kennedy, as a starting pitcher who has posted
: nice minor league numbers despite lacking an awe-inspiring fastball. You can
: also lump southpaw Chase Wright into that category. After making a
: forgettable MLB debut in 2007, Wright spent all of 2008 in the minors and was
: recently removed from the 40-man roster. Both Hacker and Wright could develop
: into middle relievers at the Major League level.
25歲的Hacker剛被加入洋基的40人名單, 他循著與Kennedy同樣的模式成長. 身為先發
投手, 儘管沒有令人畏懼的快速球, 依舊繳出優秀的小聯盟成績單. 你可以將他跟
Wright規為同類, 在2007年曾短暫登上大聯盟後, 2008年Wright整年都在小聯盟出賽,
最近被球團從40人名單中移除. Hacker和Wright都可能成為中等的中繼投手.
: Obviously the Yankees’ Big Five in the rotation look pretty good on paper
: going into the 2009 season. The Live Five (plus one) don’t look too shabby,
: either.
很明顯地, 洋基先發輪值五虎將看起來相當嚇人, 而五小虎看起來也沒那麼抖.
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