Re: [農場] Full Scouting Report: Dellin Betances

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※ 引述《oosama (賓拉登的生活)》之銘言：
: CLEARWATER, Fla. -- The Yankees certainly have to be excited about the top of
: their pitching staff in High-A Tampa. Along with star lefty prospect Manny
: Banuelos, the Tampa staff also boasts 6-foot-8 Dellin Betances, who is
: blossoming before our eyes as an elite pitching prospect.

洋基一定對他們的高階一A新秀感到興奮。除了Manny Banuelos之外，Tampa隊裡還有

6呎八吋的Dellin Betances，如我們所見他逐漸變成了不起的投手prospect

: Coming off elbow surgery, the big question for the towering right-hander is
: going to be his health. If he can stay healthy, there is no telling what he
: can do on the mound. And, given what I saw in his most recent outing with
: Tampa, the sky is the limit. Here is what I saw from Betances on Thursday
: night in Clearwater:

手肘開刀之後，是否能保持健康便成為這位高大右投手的問題。如果可以保持健康，

毫無疑問他可以有番作為。而且最近我在Tampa看他投球，發現他的天份真的很棒。

以下是我當天在Clearwater看到的情形：

: Physical Description
: What can you say about a guy who is 6-foot-8? His presence is immense on the
: mound and that's one of the first things you notice about Betances. And this
: is not a young man who looks like he could blow away out there. The
: 22-year-old is a very strong, well-built athlete. He has the long limbs to
: match his extra-large frame, but overall looks comfortable and coordinated.
: You see a lot of tall pitchers, including Yankee prospect Andrew Brackman,
: that can look a bit awkward at times. That doesn't appear to be the case with
: Betances.

   身體素質

他都6呎八吋了你還能說什麼？看到他在投手丘上會覺得非常巨大，而這就是大家馬上會

注意到的地方。除此之外，他不是那種高瘦看起來風一吹就飄走的年輕人。22歲的他非常

強壯，體格非常好。他有特大號的骨架搭配非常長的四肢，但是看起來不會不靈活而且協

調性良好。你看過很多高大投手，包括洋基隊的新秀Andrew Brackman，他們有時看起來

有點笨拙。但這不會發生在Betances身上。


: Mechanics
: My biggest concerns coming into this outing regarding Betances were
: mechanical in nature. He's been through major surgery, has limited mound
: experience because of that surgery, and tall guys like himself are prone to
: mechanical inconsistency. Overall, his delivery was much more clean and
: consistent than I anticipated. That said, he still can get out of sync in a
: hurry, and that happened a couple times over the course of this particular
: outing. He lost his arm slot at one point against Clearwater and began to
: lose the feel for his fastball. To his credit, he was able to right himself
: rather quickly. Given his size, it's always going to be something he has to
: stay on top of.

    投球機制

他的投球機制還不夠純熟是我最擔心的地方。他經歷過大手術，因為手術的關係使他在

投手丘上經驗還不足，而且像他那樣的高大投手投球機制往往不穩定。整體來說，他的

出手比我想得還要簡潔與一致。但是他仍會突然間失去協調性，而這點發生許多次。

當晚的某個時候，他出手角度不對，然後就開始失去對直球的感覺。但他能夠調整回來

這點值得驕傲。以他的身高，能夠Stay on top of是一件了不起的事情。


: Most importantly, his arm action looked long, loose and clean, without any
: hitches or violent movement in there at all. As far as his future health is
: concerned, that's certainly a good sign. Betances also does a very good job
: of keeping his delivery under control by employing a slight hip turn that
: keeps his weight back nicely over his back leg. By doing that, he's
: maximizing the benefits of his tremendous height, staying tall over the
: rubber, getting on top and getting that big extension out in front that his
: size allows for.

最重要的是，他的出手不慌不忙，輕鬆，簡潔，一點障礙與劇烈轉動的地方也沒有。這對

他未來的健康是好消息。藉由稍微轉動臀部，讓他得以保持重心在後腳，使他在控制出手

動作上也做得很好。因為這麼做，他能夠完全發揮驚人的身高，(staying tall over

the rubber 不會翻)，控制好球，完全伸展他的身體。

: Fastball
: Here's where Betances is going to make his living. The owner of a true plus
: fastball, the big righty separates himself from other young pitchers with
: good arms with his use and confidence in his fastball. As stated above,
: considering his limited experience, Betances has a true presence on the mound
: and quietly seems to believe no one can touch his best fastball. However,
: that does not mean he is reckless in the zone. Sitting consistently at 94-95
: mph, Betances routinely bumped 96-97 mph up in the zone.
: Betances already shows an advanced idea of how to use that explosive fastball
: as an out pitch up in the zone. You rarely see minor league pitchers do this
: with any real intent.

    快速球

這是他吃飯的工具，true plus球種，這是他和其他年輕投手不一樣的地方。如上述，

考慮到他有限的經驗，Betances已經真正出現在投手丘，而他看起來安靜沉穩，彷彿沒人

可以碰到他那最棒的速球。不過。這並不表示他會隨便把球投進去好球帶。他的速球落在

94-95mph間，96-97mph投到好球帶上方也是家常便飯。

他已經懂得利用好球帶上方。你很少看到小聯盟投手故意這麼用。

: And the key words here are up in the zone. Betances already shows an advanced
: idea of how to use that explosive fastball as an out pitch up in the zone.
: You rarely see minor league pitchers do this with any real intent. But on a
: consistent basis, he was willing to start hitters with off-speed pitches to
: get ahead and then finish up in the zone at 95-96 mph.
: Still, although his fastball command is solid, it's not pinpoint. That's a
: lot to ask at this stage in his career. It will continue to develop, and he's
: already very aggressive in the zone right now with average command. Given his
: well-above-average velocity, that should do the trick just fine. The attack
: mentality, confidence that his fastball can and will miss bats, ability to
: make hitters commit to it in the upper quadrants and above, and plus life
: will make him quite a presence with the fastball alone at the next level.

關鍵字就是好球帶上方。但往往他一開始先丟變化球取得球數領先，再用95-96 mph

高直球解決打者。

除此之外，儘管他的控球還不錯，但還不夠準確。在他生涯的這個階段還有很多東西要

摸索。給他時間，他會進步，而且他現在已經會用平均的控球攻擊好球帶。因為球速很好

，最終他會把這件事做得很好。(後面不知道怎麼翻，猜是說他對直球的心態會幫助他

進步)

: Curveball
: Betances' top secondary weapon, the curveball is an impressive one to say the
: least. And unlike many young arms with plus curveballs, he does not overuse
: it. He remains primarily a fastball pitcher. But when he did mix in the
: curveball on this particular night, it was extra sharp time after time.
: Thrown at 81-83 mph, the curveball showed very hard, late bite with tight
: 12-6 rotation.

  曲球

Betances第二武器，他的曲球不誇張的說，真的讓人印象深刻。不像其他有plus曲球的年

輕投手，他不會濫用這個球路。他大體上讓自己是個速球投手。但當天晚上他投的曲球，

往往投得相當銳利。81-83 mph的12-6曲球，變化非常大，很晚才變化。

: For the most part, he was able to stay down in the zone with it, but at his
: height he has to avoid getting lazy with his finish or else he's very prone
: to hanging it up in the zone. That happened on a couple occasions against
: Clearwater. When he does stay on top and finish properly, he has advantages
: with his curveball that just can't be taught. Throwing from that high angle
: produces big depth and hard rotation. This will be yet another swing-and-miss
: offering for him at the big league level.

大多時候他能夠保持在低好球帶，想要更上一層樓的話，他得避免在出手末段失去控制，

否則他的曲球容易沒掉夠，落在好球帶上方。對上Clearwater那天就出現幾次。當他能夠

控制好球，他有著教也教不出來的曲球。從這麼高的地方的出手角度，使得球變化劇烈且

深。遲早這會是他另一個在大聯盟的制勝球種。

: Changeup
: For a pitcher of Betances' limited experience and power stuff to have
: anything resembling a decent changeup would be surprising. It turns out
: Betances has more than just a show changeup, and instead has a very usable 5
: changeup on the 2-8 scouting scale. Given the good two-seam movement he has
: on his 82-85 mph change, there's potential for it to grow into a plus pitch
: if he can refine his command.
: To his credit, he already has enough confidence in his changeup to go
: back-to-back to start off an at-bat then finish with his fastball. Pitching
: backwards is not something you expect to see at this level from a young man
: with a 95-mph fastball.

  變速球

    像Betances這樣經驗有限卻有球威的投手，普通的變速球會讓打者嚇一跳。他的變速球

最終不會只拿來嚇嚇打者，而是會在2-8分的球探量表拿到有用處的5分。他的82到85mph

變速球有著二縫線般的軌跡，如果控好的話有成為plus球種的潛力。

    他對變速球有足夠的信心，敢對打者一開始就連續投兩顆變速球，然後再用直球解決

打者。看到95mph直球年輕投手在這個層級，你不會預期他會投不好。

: Summation
:  Given some real similarities in their deliveries, as well as having highly
: similar arsenals and approaches, the best modern-day comparison for Dellin
: Betances is Josh Beckett. Obviously, Beckett may not still be that dominant
: pitcher, so this comparison goes more for the Beckett of old. Betances
: obviously is taller than Beckett, but other than that they are comparable in
: just about every other way, including the powerful mid-90s fastball, their
: deliveries, and the hard 12-6 hooks.

    總結

    以他的出手和武器庫，關於他未來，現在球界能比較的對象是Josh Beckett。當然

現在的Beckett不像以前的他這麼有宰制性，so更進一步說比較對象的是過去的Beckett。

Betances除了身高比較高一點之外，他們倆都有mid-90速球，類似的出手，12-6有著劇烈

變化曲球，可以拿來做比較。

: But since he was drafted, there's never been much doubt that Betances had
: potentially all-world type stuff. Thankfully, his elbow surgery has not
: robbed him of that. It may have, in fact, given him more time to develop his
: changeup and refine his delivery. Those two categories have both gone from
: potential weaknesses to strengths.
: The bottom line here is this: keep Dellin Betances on the mound and healthy
: and his talent is as good as anyone at the minor league level. Health is the
: only thing that can hold him back.

從他被選秀後，他的潛力一直被看好(不確定)。幸好，手肘開刀沒有奪走他的天份。

甚至還給了他更多時間磨練變速球與出手。而上述兩者他都有空間再進步。

他充滿天份，唯一要擔心的就只有健康問題。

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推 chancewen   :真的練出北極就太可怕了XD
推 OoyaoO      :練出Beckett就超棒的XD
推 yamatai     :北極plus版    WoW
推 IAMVIC      :真期待阿
推 krara       :真的假的，Beckett，養出這樣一隻就真的賺翻了。
推 boty927     :整個好造神 XDDDD 未來新洋基Ace一個取得 (?)
推 jayin07     :Beckett那邊語氣差別會差很多
→ jayin07     :意思是Beckett可能沒辦法回到以前那樣這麼強
推 yamatai     :喔對耶，看一下原文才發現原來是說，北極老了沒那麼
→ yamatai     :強了，所以Betances是跟老的北極相比較的。
→ yamatai     :所以嚴格來說應該是北極minus版
推 jayin07     :不是....我的意思是他的對比沒錯
→ jayin07     :他所對比的Beckett是這幾年的Beckett，而不是從前
→ jayin07     :那個非常具有宰制力的Beckett
→ jdtrue      :this comparison goes more for the Beckett of old
推 asdfzx      :北極就算當打之時,也是一年猛一年爆的
推 j07242054   :Stay on top of 那個應該是保持的意思吧？
推 allyours    :對比"Beckett of old"應指"當年的北極"
→ allyours    :而非"老了的北極"英文的"老了"應為"aged"非"old"
→ allyours    :如果upside只是跟現在的北極類比 能當的吃局數的
→ allyours    :這個scouting report就不會用這個語氣給他評價了
推 duncan6502  :我們缺投手 快長出來!
※ 編輯: pttoliver       來自: 140.120.136.175      (03/01 17:12)