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全文: http://tinyurl.com/7rlda5e 作者: EJ Fagan , July 5 , 2012 http://tinyurl.com/7zbdprs 作者: Eric Schuliz , July 6 , 2012 一、前言: 由於板上比較缺乏介紹農場的文章, 因此小弟這幾天將翻譯兩篇評論農場的文章, 同時呢 如果你們注意看的話會發現這兩篇是有關連性的。Fagan先完成了這篇文章, 之後 Eric Schuliz再看到他寫的文章後表示認同他的看法, 並補充了其他內容。 今年洋基農場表現的總歸來說是不盡理想的, 因此看完這兩篇也不要太過絕望, 畢竟農場的養成不是單看一年兩年就可以判定的。 ok!以下讓我們進入正題。 二、Its Been A Bad Year For The Yankee Farm System by EJ FAGAN on JULY 5, 2012 Last week, Tyler Austin, Gary Sanchez, and Mason Williams was promoted from Low-A Charleston to High-A Tampa. All three had been hitting the cover off off the ball in Charleston, progessing on defaence, and playing against older, more experienced opponents. Thus, all three duly earned spots on Baseball America's mid season top propects list. Williams is ranked #28, Sachez #30, and Austin #39. All three rankings seem appropriate, although I'd personally put Sachez in front of Williams. Still, its been a long time since the Yankees had three all-star caliber hitting propects progessing together through the farm system. That's the very good news. But even given the performances of those three, it had been a bad year for the Yankee farm system. The more I think about it, the more I think that it has been a very bad year for the Yankee farm system. A year ago I was very comfortable calling the Yankees a top-10 farm system in all of baseball , possibly top-5. This year, I think the organization is in danger of falling into the bottom half. 二、洋基的農場系統有著糟糕的一年 上個禮拜, Austin、Sanchez 和 Mason Williams 一起從 查爾斯頓的低階1A 指派到 坦帕的高階1A 隊伍。這三位年輕人和更老、更富有經驗的對手競爭, 在打擊上痛扁了 低階1A 的投手, 在防守上也有進步。因此, 這三位在 BA 排名的頂級新秀排名當中都得到 了屬於他們的位子。 Williams 排在28, Sanchez 排在30, Austin則在39. 這三個排名都相當 適當, 但根據我自己的私人想法, Sanchez 該排在 Williams 的前面。 儘管如此, 已經許久沒有看見洋基農場同時擁有三名具有全明星等級的打擊新秀。 這是非常好的消息。但是即使這三個人的表現是如此出色, 洋基農場系統今年的表現還是 很差。我越去思考這件事情就越覺得他們表現得很爛。 一年以前, 要將洋基的農場系統排 在前十是件很輕鬆地事情, 他們甚至可能有前五的表現。 今年, 我想洋基農場恐怕有跌到 後半段的危險。 The problem lies in the upper levels. Here’s just some of the bad news that we’ve seen: Manuel Banuelos has been sidelined with an elbow injury, and his timetable for return has been uncertain. This is the first very serious injury of his career. As an undersized pitcher, we should all be very worried about Banuelos ’ elbow. Austin Romine hasn’t played a game, in EST, spring training, or during the regular season, due to a recurring back issue. Dellin Betances’ game has completely collapsed. He has shown little of the stuff and none of the command that he developed over the last few years. Adam Warren and D.J. Mitchell have been inconsistent. More and more, Mitchell looks like a future MLB reliever, and Warren is having serious problems striking out batters at the rate he will need to. Now, some good news balances this out. Corban Joseph is having his best offensive season ever, even if his defense remains pretty raw. Guys like Melky Mesa, Brett Marshall, Cody Johnson and David Adams are having interesting seasons. But besides David Phelps, the Yankees probably can’t count on much help from their farm system any time soon. Half of their top-10 prospects have been knocked out by ineffectiveness, trade or injury since the beginning of the year. Extend Michael Pineda to the equation, and the upper levels of Yankee depth and the Yankee organization went from well-stocked and deep to injured, shallow, and pessimistic. 問題大多出現在高階聯盟。我們已經看到一些壞消息了: Manny Banuelos 由於肘傷而缺陣, 他返回陣中的時間一直不明朗。這是他身涯第一個 非常嚴重的傷, 身為一個小個子的投手, 我們都必須擔心 Banuelos 的手肘。 Austin Romine 傷勢尚未復原, 這也使他今年尚未出賽過。 Dellin Betances 的比賽已經完全失控了。他只展現了他球路上的一點威力, 卻失去了他 這幾年好不容易有點進展的控球能力。 Adam Warren 和 D.J. Mitchell 也變了。Mitchell越來越像個免洗牛. 而Warren需要擁有 三振打者的能力, 但他沒有。 現在有一些好消息可以好壞均衡一下。 Corban Joseph 的打擊表現是他最好的一年, 雖然他的防守還是很破。 一些小屁孩像是 Melky Mesa . Brett Marshall . Cody Johnson . David Adams都有著 讓人印象深刻的球季。但是除了 David Phelps 之外, 短期內洋基可能沒辦法指望農場 在提供他們幫助。他們前十大新秀有一半已經因為被交易或是球季初的痛痛問題給擊倒了 。 再加上Michael Pineda的痛痛、高階農場新秀深度的不足, 洋基的農場從充滿希望變為 傷痛、悲觀、深度不足的代名詞。 A generational shift happened last year in the Yankee farm system. The Yankees became very strong down low in the farm system – the rest of the Charleston Riverdogs, Slade Heathcott, and others – while maintaining tremendous depth at Triple-A. Their donut hole looked innocent enough at the start of the season, but now it looks a lot more like a bare cupboard. The Yankee farm system was so strong for the last few years because it not only had top-end prospects like Jesus Montero, but also the resilient depth that so many others in baseball lack. They still have three top prospects (and will have two more if Banuelos and Campos manage to get over their elbow issues), but the guys in the 6-15 range are going to be much weaker than they were in previous years. Good things can still come out of the lower farm system. While Bryan Mitchell, Cito Culver, Angelo Gumbs, and Dante Bichette have had seasons in the range of very-bad-to-just-mediocre, all four have some reason to be optimistic about them. Slade Heathcott is performing very well following his return from another shoulder injury. The Yankees brought in a lot of talent to the GCL Yankees and Staten Island Yankees short-season teams, and some strong prospects will likely emerge from the chaos there. I don’t think its likely that we’ll see the type of group emerging that did so last year, but some combination of Greg Bird, Peter O’Brien, Austin Aune, Tyler Hensley (when he signs), Jordan Cote, Claudio Custodio, Ravel Santana, Taylor Morton, Matt Duran, Evan Rutckyj, and others will sort out to 1-2 top-10 prospects and 2-3 top-15 prospects by year’s end. The sky is not falling. But i tend to hear a lot of undignified responses whenever BA or someone else rates the Yankees farn system lower than some fans think it should be. Make no mistake : the Yankee farm system is getting worse, not better. This is why i oppose any significant acquisitions at the trade dead line.The ship may be righted in the future, but the Yankees do not need another exodus of talent right now. 去年的洋基農場中發生了世代交替的現象。(高、低階農場一狗票, 但2A缺乏潛力) 在低階農場, 洋基擁有非常棒的潛力-Slade Heathcott 和其餘在 Charleston Riverdogs 的新秀。在 3A 也持續保持著不錯的深度。 在賽季剛開始的時候, 會讓人覺得一切都是足夠的。但隨著球季的進行, 深度不足的問題 才凸顯出來。洋基農場在過去的幾年都讓人覺得是相當棒的, 不只擁有高階新秀像是 Jose Montero ( <-------------- Q_______Q ), 還有許多在大小聯盟掙扎的免洗新秀 。他們現在還是有三個很棒的潛力新秀( 或許在Banuelous 和 Campos 歸隊後會增添兩個 ), 但那些排在農場前 6-15之間的傢伙比往年的要差很多。 低階的農場中還是有一點驚喜出現。雖然 Bryan Mitchell . Cito Culver . Angel Gumbs 和 Dante Bichette今年的表現都在很爛到普通之間, 但他們都有讓人可以樂觀以待的理由 。Slade Heathcott在他從肩膀傷勢復原歸隊後的表現也相當棒。洋基也為在 GCL Yankees 和 Slaten Island Yankees 短期聯盟的隊伍補進了一狗票的人才, 有些看起來會有非常 棒的表現。我想洋基農場或許不會像歷年來那樣的出色, 但有這些新秀, 和其他1-2 個有機會擠進洋基農場前十名和 2-3 個有機會進到前十五名的人結合成的前景還是很 不錯的。 天空不會墜落 ( 意指事情還沒有到最糟的時候 ), 但我傾向於在 BA 或是其他人在評 論洋基農場系統的時候, 他們給的成績會遠低於粉絲們所認定的。 這是沒有錯的: 洋基農場正在變得更糟, 不是更好。 這也是為什麼我反對在交易截止日 用未來換取即戰力。或許這麼做(換戰力)會在未來有好的影響, 但事實是, 洋基已經禁 不起在失去任何潛力新秀了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.38.241.22 ※ 編輯: iwillloveyou 來自: 114.38.241.22 (07/09 21:31)
OoyaoO :同意 季初看起來完整與深度兼具的輪值如今居然這麼的 07/09 21:37
OoyaoO :緊繃 禁不起任何損失了 07/09 21:37
iwillloveyou:曾幾何時, 農場的三B也漸漸跌到鎂光燈之外了 07/09 21:44
iwillloveyou:除了雙B + Campos 洋基農場好投手新秀真的沒了 07/09 21:45
linmelissa :Phelps~~ 07/09 21:46
noahlin :雙B看起來都不是很妙 沒有控球很難在Major生存啊 07/09 21:49
redsnipertd :BB比K多,而且BB9爆表,這已經不是生存不生存的問題 07/09 23:20
Tukiyomi :Rafael DePaula 07/09 23:24
GDBS :Mark Montgomery 有機會成為一隻好牛 07/09 23:42
fetoyeh :不過換個方式想 要不是季初有做到這種補強 那現在不 07/09 23:56
fetoyeh :就更糟糕了...XD 07/09 23:56
shongzcwea :Brett Mashall有機會趕上因傷錯過的那些進度 07/10 00:26
redsnipertd :Marshall是這一堆裡面我個人認為最有可能快速上來的 07/10 00:44
※ 編輯: iwillloveyou 來自: 114.38.241.22 (07/10 02:07)