Re: [外電] Jeter out for postseason

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標題Re: [外電] Jeter out for postseason

時間Sun Oct 14 22:05:19 2012

大家拿放大鏡檢視ARod的成績, 絕對不是單純因為今年的表現差, 而是從2004 ALCS第四戰開始, ARod在季後賽的成績就非常不理想, 除2009年奪冠那年外. 更令人不滿的是2007年已經是全聯盟身價最高的他, 竟然跳脫合約尋求更肥的長約, 拿那麼高的薪水, 承受比其他人大的壓力是天經地義的事. 有本事就像CC一樣, 展現一夫當關的氣勢. (尤其是看到洋基官網首頁的照片, 更是讓人不滿ARod的表現.) 以下列舉洋基主砲為洋基效力期間的季後賽成績給大家參考. 大致上就可以窺知為何這三年季後賽打的很艱辛, 尤其是ARod與正妹的表現持續低迷. 如果現在已經沒有其他表現尚可的球員頂替先發, 不得不繼續安排ARod與正妹上場, 那不訪考慮將這兩位安排至六棒以後. 吉總真的已經給她們很多機會證明自己, 但表現真的相當不稱職, 安排至後面棒次或許有機會反彈 (或許吧....) (鐵爺今年還可算是由黑翻紅, 不然先前幾年的成績一樣是慘兮兮) ARod YEAR▲ G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG 2004 11 50 11 16 3 8 0.32 0.414 0.6 2005 5 15 2 2 0 0 0.133 0.435 0.2 2006 4 14 0 1 0 0 0.071 0.133 0.071 2007 4 15 2 4 1 1 0.267 0.353 0.467 2009 15 52 15 19 6 18 0.365 0.5 0.808 2010 9 32 5 7 0 3 0.219 0.316 0.281 2011 5 18 1 2 0 3 0.111 0.261 0.111 2012 5 19 1 2 0 0 0.105 0.19 0.105 Swisher YEAR▲ G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG 2009 14 47 5 6 1 2 0.128 0.255 0.234 2010 9 34 6 6 2 2 0.176 0.263 0.441 2011 5 19 1 4 1 1 0.211 0.25 0.368 2012 6 23 0 3 0 1 0.13 0.222 0.174 Cano YEAR▲ G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG 2005 5 19 3 5 0 5 0.263 0.333 0.421 2006 4 15 0 2 0 0 0.133 0.133 0.133 2007 4 15 3 5 2 3 0.333 0.375 0.8 2009 15 57 5 11 0 6 0.193 0.266 0.281 2010 9 35 8 12 4 6 0.343 0.361 0.771 2011 5 22 2 7 2 9 0.318 0.375 0.682 2012 6 28 1 2 0 4 0.071 0.103 0.143 鐵爺 YEAR▲ G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG 2009 15 61 10 11 2 8 0.18 0.282 0.311 2010 7 27 3 4 1 3 0.148 0.258 0.296 2011 5 18 2 3 0 1 0.167 0.286 0.278 2012 6 21 2 7 0 1 0.333 0.5 0.333 葛嬸 YEAR▲ G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG 2010 9 28 3 10 1 6 0.357 0.514 0.607 2011 5 20 4 5 1 3 0.25 0.375 0.55 2012 6 23 1 3 1 1 0.13 0.2 0.261 ※ 引述《porchupine (Beisbol)》之銘言： : NEW YORK -- The X-rays merely provided the grim confirmation of what several : Yankees already suspected -- Derek Jeter is lost for the season. : The iconic captain ranged toward the second-base bag for a play he's probably : made hundreds of times during his career. But in the 12th inning of the : Yankees' 6-4 loss in 12 innings to the Tigers in Game 1 of the American : League Championship Series on Saturday night, Jeter's ankle buckled as he : fielded the ball. : Jeter fell down, and couldn't get up on his own. He has a fractured left : ankle and won't play baseball again until 2013. : "For him to lay down on that field, I knew something was broke or torn : completely," said Yankees lefty Andy Pettitte, who worked 6 2/3 innings of : two-run ball. "You know, when I saw him not get up, I knew he was done, : really. It's terrible." : The Yankees expect Jeter to return by Spring Training. : "I don't know the exact medical terms, but I'll just call it a broken ankle," : said Yankees general manager Brian Cashman. "He has a fracture in his ankle : and he's going to be down for this series and the remaining series, and it's : about a three-month minimum recovery, from what the doctor tells us." : The loss wasn't nearly as painful to the Yankees as the realization that they : will have to try to get to the World Series without Jeter. : "When Derek Jeter needs help to get off the field, you know it's bad," said : Cashman. : That had happened only one other time in Jeter's career -- back on Opening : Day 2003, when he separated his left shoulder in Toronto. : Never had Jeter been knocked out of action in October. : This is the second enormous blow the Yankees have had to an active legend : this season. Closer Mariano Rivera tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his : right knee while shagging fly balls during batting practice back on May 3 at : Kansas City's Kauffman Stadium, and the right-hander was lost for the season. : "That's kind of crushing, you know?" said right fielder Nick Swisher. "It's : tough; it's really tough. We've got to keep pushing along and keep playing : our game, and hopefully we can pull it out." : Jayson Nix will take over at shortstop in Jeter's absence. Eduardo Nunez will : take Jeter's place on the roster, effective for Sunday's 4 p.m. ET Game 2 on : TBS. : Once the Yankees got the official diagnosis, there wasn't much to say in the : trainer's room. Jeter was there, surrounded by Cashman, members of the : medical staff, former manager Joe Torre -- now an executive with Major League : Baseball -- and Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson. : "There were about five or six people in there," Cashman said. "Our game was : still going on." : How was the news relayed to Jeter? : "Just that he has a fracture and, 'It's something you can't play through,'" : said Cashman. "I think the doc had to emphasize that in talking to Derek, who : is as tough as they come." : Jeter has battled left foot problems for weeks, and perhaps general weakness : in that area made his ankle more susceptible to the fracture that occurred. : "I'm not in a position to answer that," said Cashman. "It very well could be : related. He's been banged up with that foot, so I would say yeah, I would : think it is related." : Now the Yankees will be in a most unfamiliar role of trying to win at the : most important time of year without their unquestioned leader. : "The way to honor Derek mostly more than anything else, and these guys all : know this, is to get the job done in his absence," Cashman said. "That's what : everybody in here intends to do, and that's what we'll focus on, just like : when we've lost anybody else. : "The most analogous would be Mariano. We lost Pettitte for a period of time. : We lost Mo for the season. We've lost Derek for the season. Nix is capable : and he'll be plugged in there tomorrow, and we look forward to getting even : with this Tigers team tomorrow." : The Yankees had stormed back in Game 1, rallying back from a 4-0 deficit in : the bottom of the ninth on two-run homers by Ichiro Suzuki and Raul Ibanez. : But by the end of the night, they lost the game and their captain. : "It's a tough moment for all of us because of what he means to our team," : said Ibanez. : For the rest of this postseason, Jeter will be reduced to the role of : cheerleader. : "It doesn't matter," said Cashman. "The job is to overcome every obstacle : that comes our way. We have one team standing in our way to get to the World : Series." : 隊長你希苦了....剩下的交給其他人吧 : Nix 將會代替隊長 SS的先發位置 : Nunez 會被叫上來當 Nix的替補 : 話說Jeter只需要3個月的時間應該趕得上明年開季春訓 : God Bless Jeter!! 好好養傷吧 : Let's Go Yankees !! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.243.169.22

推 meson :看起來很悲劇 10/14 22:14

→ heacoun :辛苦打下冠軍的09年就只用一句話帶過... 10/14 22:14

推 beckseaton :這兩年37個AB有16K 揮棒速度應該是真的變慢了 10/14 22:21

推 sitos :這兩年都有傷，揮棒變慢跟年紀和傷都有關係吧。 10/14 22:22

推 higger :09年的冠軍也不只A-Rod一個英雄... 10/14 22:24

推 JasonMao :看看其他人的成績更覺得09年真的是靠A-Rod 10/14 22:26

推 supetaco :09年A-ROD是在分區系列和分區冠軍救洋基 10/14 22:26

→ supetaco :但世界大賽真的是靠松井阿 10/14 22:26

推 mightymouse :09其實最該拿季後MVP的是Mo啊,快40歲還天天上 10/14 22:26

→ recky04 :不是靠A-Rod是因為前兩輪打太好後面都很閃 10/14 22:27

→ mightymouse :最後一場還解決五個出局數,有人closer這樣用的嗎? 10/14 22:27

推 hdjj :TEX就算打不好,還會仔細選球拚保送,守備跑壘也都很拚 10/14 22:28

→ jieping :你拿前幾年的數據恰好突出了09年冠軍是靠A-Rod的事實 10/14 22:28

→ s90366770607:A-ROD:我四年強一次所以明年就看我吧 10/14 22:29

→ jieping :也恰好證明很多人季後賽都打很爛 10/14 22:30

推 LeoLee :球迷都是健忘的...... 10/14 22:30

推 DarvishIsGod:短期成績本來起伏就很大只能說A-Rod招牌大 10/14 22:30

→ MarianoWu :09年還有CC慣性中三日的強力演出贊助, 真是辛苦. 10/14 22:31

→ DarvishIsGod:所以打不好自然成為千夫所指 10/14 22:31

推 ShockAndAwe :07Arod是確實有這個資格來跳脫阿... 10/14 22:31

→ jieping :還不如直接拿三振數嗆他狀況差，或是老化衰退了。 10/14 22:32

→ ShockAndAwe :現在看起來就......... 10/14 22:32

推 arogone :坦白講如果簽下cc跟鐵爺就只拿一座有點慘 10/14 22:32

推 LoveMoose :現在呢...... 10/14 22:33

推 hdjj :09還有CC AJ ANDY三個投手拚命才贏得勝利 10/14 22:33

→ hdjj :那個三人輪值,現在想想都覺得累 10/14 22:34

→ hdjj :當然,還有MO... 10/14 22:35

推 tokuda :今年除了CC 還有老派大叔老吳等一干人拼"老"命... 10/14 22:35

噓 RogerWaters :原來球員表現好時,不該要大約哦!!! 10/14 22:36

推 LoveMoose :真的是拼老命...... 10/14 22:37

→ RogerWaters :2007年沒A-Rod還沒季後賽好打呢? 10/14 22:37

→ hdjj :表現好拿大約,拿大約打不好就罵更慘,很合理啊. 10/14 22:38

→ MarianoWu :我只能說洋基高層腦充血跟他續簽超肥長約,以她的身價 10/14 22:39

推 tokuda :就像你會罵公司裡那些坐領高薪卻好像沒做什麼事的人 10/14 22:40

→ tokuda :一樣的合理 10/14 22:40

→ MarianoWu :與這三年的表現相比,在主場被球迷噓只是剛好而已. 10/14 22:41

推 tokuda :不過他拿得到大約也是有拿出表現才有辦法 10/14 22:43

→ MarianoWu :我還真想說如果ARod表現稍稍微正常一點,或許有幾年的 10/14 22:43

→ chancewen :主坦被集火正常@@ 10/14 22:43

→ tokuda :運動員的風險太大經營者也很難為啦 10/14 22:43

→ MarianoWu :的季後賽可以走更長遠一點. 10/14 22:43

噓 RogerWaters :2004第四場率先開轟,該贏的被MO敗掉,後面輸了也怪他. 10/14 22:44

→ Skabo :表現好拿大約合理阿拿大約打不好被罵也合理阿 10/14 22:45

→ Skabo :兩件事情是完全不衝突的 10/14 22:45

→ MarianoWu :tokuda如同你說的,所以現在我只是講講ARod,現實上他 10/14 22:46

→ MarianoWu :還是會為洋基打幾年球,不論表現如何照領高薪,而我還 10/14 22:47

→ jieping :這麼說來 MO表現正常的話 04年就拿得到冠軍 10/14 22:47

噓 RogerWaters :今年打不好被鞭是應當..扯一些往事亂鞭就惹人厭了... 10/14 22:47

→ jieping :鐵爺 Swisher表現正常去年、前年就拿得到冠軍？ 10/14 22:48

→ MarianoWu :是會為洋基繼續加油. 10/14 22:48

推 tokuda :職業運動員跟一班職業不同在於會受年齡和體能的影響 10/14 22:48

→ jieping :你的邏輯歸納起來就是「高薪就該第一個被鞭」而已吧 10/14 22:49

→ tokuda :而且在出道之前還要從小投資培養花錢花心力 10/14 22:49

推 prereality :而且運動員不是機器~ 10/14 22:50

→ tokuda :重點是還不一定養得起來所以一旦養起來當然要多賺 10/14 22:50

→ MarianoWu :如果ARod只是單純一兩年季後賽打差,我反而不會講他 10/14 22:50

→ tokuda :Overpay其實不完全真的是Overpay 你怎知之前投資了多 10/14 22:51

→ MarianoWu :球員在短期比賽表現不理想是常有的事, 但ARod是從 10/14 22:51

→ tokuda :少?所以其實長約某種程度代表的是對他過往成績的肯定 10/14 22:52

→ MarianoWu :2005以後,只有一年表現好,其他都是不及格. 10/14 22:52

→ tokuda :也是對未來的投資既然是投資就一定有風險 10/14 22:52

→ tokuda :就現在看來只能說阿肉的風險大過其他人太多了 10/14 22:53

噓 RogerWaters :問題是2005年沒A-Rod可能是年年沒季後賽好打...柯柯 10/14 22:54

→ tokuda :但運動員就是這樣你不知道他何時會衰退突然體能或 10/14 22:54

→ jieping :07年的成績略差而已。我覺得純粹是10年之後有所衰退 10/14 22:55

噓 siliver :只能說單看季後賽是很蠢的事,沒這些人季賽拼命,連季 10/14 22:55

→ tokuda :心理出問題甚至變成一個在其領域完全失效的生手 10/14 22:55

→ siliver :後賽都沒得打. 10/14 22:56

→ MarianoWu :jieping,我並不是單純因為ARod拿高薪而鞭他,而是他後 10/14 22:56

→ RogerWaters :07年是被投手敗掉...Ace季後賽根本不行... 10/14 22:56

→ MarianoWu :來季後賽的表現實在太令人失望. 10/14 22:57

→ Skabo :季後賽打得好會被當英雄跟神拜打不好不能罵兩句嗎? 10/14 22:57

→ Skabo :下次再見轟之後你會跳出來說單看季後賽很蠢!? 10/14 22:58

→ MarianoWu :RogerWaters,是的,某些年度不是單純因為ARod表現不好 10/14 22:58

推 tokuda :球團給約當然絕對不是只看季後賽表現的所以我個人其 10/14 22:59

→ Skabo :一兩個關鍵打席投球定江山本就是季後賽迷人的地方 10/14 22:59

→ MarianoWu :而結束季後賽,但ARod後來的季後賽大多表現不正常也是 10/14 22:59

→ Skabo :玩FB的時候大家當然知道要看季賽大樣本還用你說 10/14 22:59

→ tokuda :實蠻反對用季後賽去judge一個選手的價值 10/14 22:59

→ MarianoWu :不爭的事實,被球迷拿出來檢討只是剛好而已. 10/14 23:00

→ tokuda :但原po也提到因為已經有好幾年的樣本數參考了 10/14 23:00

→ tokuda :如果去對照這幾年阿肉的"季賽"表現並沒有特別的低潮 10/14 23:01

→ tokuda :那他的季後賽表現相較於季賽確實是真的很差 10/14 23:01

→ MarianoWu :大家只會記得最後是誰拿到總冠軍,也沒人因為紅雀去年 10/14 23:02

→ jieping :他的確是表現很差沒錯但是打線爛不是他一個人的問題 10/14 23:03

→ jieping :只拿他出來鞭最大的原因不就是他的高薪？ 10/14 23:03

推 tokuda :J大說得也沒錯以今年來看和阿肉一樣情形的有正妹 10/14 23:04

→ MarianoWu :是以外卡資格拿下總冠軍而註記問號吧,只是想闡述季後 10/14 23:04

→ tokuda :葛嬸甚至小Q 10/14 23:04

→ MarianoWu :賽連續好幾年表現不佳更容易被球迷拿放大鏡檢視. 10/14 23:05

→ jieping :今年成績他不只比不上Cano鐵爺連Swisher葛嬸都不如 10/14 23:05

推 tokuda :嚴格說起來小Q和葛嬸這兩個人應該是要有好表現的 10/14 23:06

→ jieping :與其期待他，為何不期待打線其他的人。 10/14 23:06

→ tokuda :正妹其實只要中規中矩不要太差也沒人會苛責 10/14 23:07

→ tokuda :所以只能說阿肉這肉盾"保護"了其他很多棒次吧XD 10/14 23:08

推 ckbaboon :A-Rod很自然就會是眾矢之的這有需要解釋嗎@@ 10/14 23:09

→ MarianoWu :是的,今年打線掙扎絕對不單是ARod的問題,列出主砲近 10/14 23:09

→ tokuda :這也是原po發這篇文的用意吧 10/14 23:10

→ MarianoWu :幾年的表現也是想解說主砲群近幾年大多都有熄火的現 10/14 23:10

→ MarianoWu :象,我也承認特別針對ARod是因為他領突出的高薪.只能 10/14 23:11

→ MarianoWu :說往後洋基高層針對三十歲以上的球員給予超長肥約真 10/14 23:12

→ kai08130623 :檢討ARod只是希望他能再出來當超人，就這樣 10/14 23:12

→ MarianoWu :的要審慎考慮. 10/14 23:12

→ jieping :再看後幾年A-Rod的表現吧... 說實在還是期待他回春。 10/14 23:14

推 ckbaboon :檢討A-Rod本來就沒什麼不對他現在連SF都打不出來 10/14 23:14

推 tokuda :就跟更年期一樣啦阿肉也到了該轉型的年紀了 10/14 23:15

→ tokuda :打擊型態上要作調整他已經不年輕了 10/14 23:15

→ MarianoWu :我已經不期待ARod有超人表現,但他或許要有自覺往後 10/14 23:17

→ MarianoWu :可能要坐板凳或接受被排在後段棒次,除非他可以展現 10/14 23:18

→ MarianoWu :實力再奪回先發中心棒次的席位,就像一朗一樣. 10/14 23:18

→ moregreentea:拿多少錢做多少事應該的!!! 10/14 23:20

噓 RogerWaters :所以E哥猛E時就別唉... 10/14 23:22

→ RogerWaters :他才拿基本薪, 猛E是應當的... 10/14 23:23

→ moregreentea:沒人期待他的守備放心吧 10/14 23:23

推 ckbaboon :根本不會讓E哥上不是要讓Nix嗎 10/14 23:26

推 RogerWaters :去年初還有人說E哥怎麼樣都會比老化的Jeter強... 10/14 23:28

→ RogerWaters :真是此一時彼一時... 10/14 23:28

→ kai08130623 :不一樣吧?E哥應該是要做好工作，才能拿到好合約 10/14 23:28

推 ckbaboon :球員評價本來就是看成績說話不然是要怎樣= = 10/14 23:30

→ ckbaboon :E哥守備真的太悲劇不然也有試著想用他不是嗎 10/14 23:30

推 maxLOVEmimi :好奇怪五位球員 09年就AROD打最好XD 其他都很杯具 10/14 23:36

→ maxLOVEmimi :應該說是四位才對 10/14 23:36

推 maxLOVEmimi :一切先從選球開始吧 10/14 23:42

→ maxLOVEmimi :是說都那麼糟了也是時候該谷底反彈了吧 10/14 23:44

推 cyhung1025 :總之他季後賽是很常勞賽沒錯 10/14 23:46

→ LMakoto :下一場別再3打9了啦>"< 10/15 01:06

推 LMakoto :希望176順利拿到戒指!! 10/15 01:36

→ philluke :猛E應當? 別人沒大棒的也拿基本薪基本的防守做不好 10/15 02:25

→ philluke :沒被鞭才奇怪吧? 10/15 02:26

推 savemylife :09年很強但要把09年掛在嘴上用一輩子嗎？ 10/15 02:31

→ savemylife :他現在就手套還能用連球皮都難擦到的情況要怎麼救 10/15 02:32

噓 Tukiyomi :你許昭彥喔？ 10/15 02:35

推 nickyang :請Romney在吊死Big Bird之餘也順便宰了A-Rod好了！ 10/15 06:09

噓 GoldenWasabi:那不要帶阿肉進季後賽阿只會嘴 10/15 07:21

→ bluemkevin :時空背景不一樣啊… 10/15 08:01

推 Mariano42 :反正今年不可能拿冠軍了 10/15 09:45

→ toray :5門砲同時熄火悲哀 10/15 14:22