Re: [閒聊] Why aren't the Nats getting Harper's b

[vg175 (非典型廢言)]

※ 引述《ug945 (ug945)》之銘言：
: http://www.nationalsarmrace.com./?p=7445
: Julio Teheran blatantly drilled Bryce Harper after he thought Harper showed
: him up after hitting a long bomb on August 7th.  There was no question the
: pitch was purposely thrown at Harper.  (By the way; watch the video of that
: home run and try to find the objectionable action there.  Maybe he pauses
: slightly, maybe he tosses his bat away instead of dropping it, maybe he runs
: slower than normal.  Not one of these actions comes even close to what some
: guys in this league do on EVERY homer, ahem Yasiel Puig).

8/7日的比賽Julio Teheran認為Harper開轟後過度炫燿所以砸了他.
(作者記錯了這場是8/6才對)
毫無疑問這球是故意的.
順帶一提,
就看看錄影來找這球出去後到底發生什麼引人不快的動作?
也許他稍微停頓久了點,
也許他是把球棒扔出去而非放下,
也許他的繞壘速度比平常慢了些.
但這個聯盟裡有人每次把球轟出去後動作都比Harper誇張得多,
比如說Yasiel Puig.

: What did the Nats do in response?  Nothing.

國民有什麼回應?
沒有.

: Last night, Harper was hit not just once but TWICE.  First in the 4th inning
: on an errant Alex Wood curveball, then again in the 8th when Luis Avilan
: threw a ridiculous pitch behind Harper’s head.

昨晚Harper被招呼不只一次而是兩次.
第一次是四局被Alex Wood迷航的曲球打中,
然後八局Luis Avilan又往Harper後腦勺來一顆荒謬的直球.

: What did the Nats do in response?  Again, nothing.

國民又做了什麼?
還是沒有.

: The Nats broadcast team (as heard in the link for last night’s game above)
: said it right: “What is going on??”

昨晚負責轉播的國民廣播組馬上說,
"這是在幹嘛?"

: I don’t care if Harper got hit with a curve (not on purpose) and a wild
: fastball (probably not on purpose, since it put the go-ahead runner on base
: in a tight game).  I don’t care what the situation is; YOU HAVE TO RESPOND
: in kind.  Enough is enough.  That’s three straight plunkings of our best guy
: by the same team inside of a week.

我不在乎Harper是被(非故意的)曲球,
跟(也許不是故意的,畢竟是把超前分送上壘包)失控的直球砸到,
我也不在乎現在到底怎樣.
你得以牙還牙.
事情該有個限度,
而我們最好的球員在一週內被同一支球隊砸了三次.

: The reaction of the Atlanta crowd was rather telling.  Pathetic in that they
: cheered the HBP and then gave Avilan a standing ovation.  However also
: telling because the message is clear; the Nationals ball club, for whatever
: reason, is not responding in kind to their best hitter getting repeatedly
: thrown at.

亞特蘭大球迷的反應還需要多說嗎?
他們很高興看到畜生球然後為Avalian起立鼓掌,
真是可悲.
然而這也清楚表明,
國民隊不管基於什麼理由,
對自己最棒的打者重複被砸一點回應都沒有.

: What is going on??  Why aren’t the Nats protecting Harper?  Why aren’t they
: responding to these HBPs?

發生什麼事了?
為什麼國民不保護Harper?
為什麼他們不對這些畜生球做些回應?

: The correct response to the August 7th event would have been to hit Justin
: Upton in the middle of the back the next time he came to the plate.  First
: pitch.  Plain and simple.  Why Upton?  Because it was Upton who just the
: night before did the exact same thing that Harper was accused of, only it
: took him LONGER to prance around the bases.  If Harper got hit because the
: Braves thought he was too slow around the bases, then how exactly do they
: excuse Upton’s trot, which was 4 seconds longer?  And the correct response
: last night was to absolutely drill the first guy up in the bottom of that
: inning.  No questions; first pitch, in the back.

正確的回應方式就是8/7的比賽在Justin Upton上場時動手,簡單明瞭.
幹嘛挑Upton?
因為Upton那晚也做了跟Harper前晚同樣的事,
而且他繞壘的時間比Harper更長.
如果Harper被砸是因為勇士不爽他跑太久,
那他們該怎麼解釋Upton跑壘時間比Harper多四秒?
而昨晚就該在下個半局往首位上場的打者身上丟.
沒什麼好說的,就第一球,砸下去.

: I don’t know what the hell Davey Johnson is doing.  Why wasn’t he out on
: the field last night, defending his player?  Why wasn’t he calling out
: Atlanta’s manager Fredi Gonzalez?  Why isn’t he ordering a response??   Why
: isn’t he showing any of the passion you would expect from a hall of fame
: manager who should know better?  Better question; why aren’t Harper’s
: teammates taking any initiative here and doing what should be done?  Where’s
: the leadership on this team?  Where’s the leadership in this clubhouse??
: If your answer is, “well it was a close game and the Nats couldn’t afford
: to purposely put a runner on base” then my response is this: 59-62.  That’s
: the team’s record right now.  You want another couple numbers?  15.5 (games
: out of first place with 6 weeks of the season to go), or how about 9.5 (games
: out of the wild card behind a team clearly better than them).  The point is
: this; the season is over.  They’re playing out the string.  Time to start
: standing up for yourselves, protect your teammate, show some g*d d*mn spine,
: and protect your best hitter for the future.

我搞不懂Davey Johnson他媽的在幹什麼?
他昨晚幹嘛不衝出來保護自己的球員?
他幹嘛不對Fredi Gonzalez叫囂?
他幹嘛不下令叫球員有些反應?
為什麼這個應該懂更多的名人堂級總教練沒有任何激情的表現?
更該問的是,
Harper的隊友為什麼不做些他們該做的來挺自己人?
這支球隊的老大在哪裡?
休息室裡的老大又在哪裡?
如果你想說,
"這是很接近的比賽嘛,國民不能承擔多一個人上壘"
那我告訴你,59-62,球隊目前的戰績.
想聽更多嗎?賽季還剩六週而我們跟第一名的勝差是15.5場.
9.5場如何?顯然比較優秀的我們跟外卡的場差.
重點是今年玩完了.
他們根本沒有向心力.
是時候為你們自己站出來了.
保護你的隊友,
讓我們看看你他媽的骨氣,
為了將來保護你最好的打者.

: I can’t image what Harper is thinking about his manager and his teammates
: right now.  If it were me, I’d be asking my manager and my teammates point
: blank to their faces why i’m not being protected.  It almost makes you
: wonder if his teammates flat out don’t like him.  Is that what’s going on?
:  Is the Nats clubhouse, which I’ve accused many times of being
: dysfunctional, even worse than we thought?

我不能想像Harper現在是怎麼想他的教練跟隊友.
如果是我,
就直接問我的教練跟隊友幹嘛不挺我?
簡直令人懷疑他的隊友根本不喜歡他.
這才是根本原因嗎?
還是說這支球隊休息室的問題,
比我多次質疑的還要來得嚴重?

: If you don’t think beanball justice has a role in the game, then you’ve
: either never played the game or don’t understand this aspect of it.  The
: Nats are sending a message that its ok to go after their guys.  That’s a
: really bad precedent to create.

如果你覺得頭部近身球無所謂,
那你不是根本沒打過比賽,
就是完全不了解這代表什麼意思.
國民送給對手的訊息就是"沒關係儘量來吧",
真是爛透了.

: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: 有板友討論到Harper被砸
: 剛剛好看到一篇文章 放上來大家看看
: 球隊的領導階層放話第一名 是不是該做些什麼?
: 隊友之間只會互相放話和在休息室吵架 球隊的向心力呢?
: 想了半天不知道怎麼形容我對於今年失望的心情
: 如果明年這球隊還是完全同一批人 我是感到有點悲觀
: 唉!

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推 ps20012001:只能推了..當下看到 也很氣.可是休息室沒反應 更是愣住
推 ps20012001:上一次被砸.都快清空了 這次居然這麼冷靜..
推 evilvens:
推 Sparksfly:推，真的爛透了
推 ddtddt:比較氣的是沒品的球迷。
推 ddtddt:保護自己的球員是應該的，把報復說的理直氣壯我不太能接受.
→ vg175:覺得Harper太囂張也砸了 第二天Upton弟做一樣的動作回敬
→ vg175:國民也沒有往Upton弟身上丟那事情就該到此為止
→ vg175:勇士官方twitter跟Avilan的動作根本就沒有必要
→ vg175:球迷終究只是盲目起鬨 斧頭自己不玩球迷也不會有什麼動作