作者Werth (臥蛇)
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標題Fw: [新聞] 拜託釋出派柏本！ 球迷願出錢填補國民損
時間Tue Sep 29 15:01:37 2015
※ [本文轉錄自 Baseball 看板 #1M2Z4DI7 ]
作者: WillWaiting (Creep) 看板: Baseball
標題: Re: [新聞] 拜託釋出派柏本！ 球迷願出錢填補國民損
時間: Tue Sep 29 14:34:50 2015
: 推 ug945: 還外電咧 平行世界嗎 09/29 14:06
: 推 mightymouse: 寶貝碰可不是球員愛的那種人，他就是休息室毒藥 09/29 14:07
: 推 MacGyverism: 就說你那些球員是鐵拳那隊的 屏東國外電嘛 09/29 14:07
http://tinyurl.com/ox5gjva
Nitkowski對現在及以前的十幾名大聯盟球員做不記名調查
以下是他們的意見
● Pap did what should have been done three years ago. Veteran players should be doing this across the league.
Pap做了其他人三年前該做的事,老鳥應該在全聯盟教教新人
● Right intentions, horrible timing by Pap.
正確的作法,但對Pap是錯的時機
● I would have done the same thing if I were Papelbon.
如果我是寶貝碰我也會做
● Bryce is a great player. He's a true superstar. But he's not above playing the game the right way. I'm glad someone finally told him that.
Harper是好球員,他是超級明星,但他沒用正確的方式打球,我很高興有人跟他說了
● I am perfectly OK with Pap’s reaction. I can understand some people having a problem with the timing. At the same time this guy is the MVP.
我對Pap的反應完全沒意見,我可以理解有人對Pap弄這事有不滿,同時這人還是MVP
● Kid has been allowed to loaf for the past two years. Williams got crucified for benching him last year; media and fans took Bryce’s side so he kept doing it and wasn’t getting punished. Veteran finally said something; kid ran his mouth at the wrong guy and got beat up.
這孩子過去被捧的太高了,Williams為此去年還罰他坐板凳,媒體跟球迷讓Harper繼續
這樣做而沒被懲罰,總算有老鳥念他了,只是這孩子對錯的人回嘴後被打了
● Do it behind closed doors. However, it needed to be done.
關起門來打.無論怎樣,就是該打
● As a teammate you always feel you have the right to say something to someone if you feel it’s wrong or hurts the club. Right after the popup is not the best time to call out a hitter.
身為一個隊友你應該要有權利當其他人做錯或是做了傷害球隊的事來指正他,但接在那
飛球出局後不是個好的時機
● We all know how Harper has behaved since he got called up. But when you’re at that level (MVP for me) why would you not run? It’s not the first time! And why did his manager take him out of the game (after the scuffle)?!?
我們都知道Harper上大聯盟的成績是怎樣的,但當你是MVP表現的時候為什麼不跑呢?
這已經不是第一次了,然後為什麼教練把Harper帶離了休息區?
● You saw Pap say you should run it out which is 100 percent true. I get Harper is frustrated about the at-bat and result but still he’s gotta run it out ... and I don't think the whole Pap hitting Machado the other day and Harper saying what he did helped the whole thing. Pap was probably just waiting for something to happen so he could criticize Harper. If somebody else said, “you need to run it out” I don't think that whole thing would have happened.
你看Pap說你該認真跑壘是百分百正確的,我知道Harper對打擊的結果不滿但還是該認真跑
我不認為Harper對Machado觸身的事件評論對這件事有幫助,Pap可能在找事情對Harper
說教,如果其他人早Pap說的話,也許就不會發生了
● I agree with Pap calling Harper out — hustling and continuous work ethic creates champions. He got the response most players would have probably given from the exchange. Should have been handled in the clubhouse.
我同意Pap對Harper的說教,奮鬥和持續認真工作帶來冠軍,他的回嘴發生在其他球員上也會
帶來同樣效果,應該在休息室解決的
● As much as I hate to say it, Albert, Papi and Miggy have earned the right not to run out every ball. Partly age, respect and risk of injury. Harper is 22, he hasn’t earned it.
老調重談,Pujols,老爹,Miggy都得到了不用每球都盡力跑的權力,部份年紀,部份傷病
但Harper才22,他還不夠格
● I believe if Papelbon was not questioned for his recent actions on the Machado beaning and his other stuff of his past, most people would love what he did. I still loved it and it needed to happen.
我相信如果寶貝碰不是因為近來對Machado的觸身跟最近的事,大部份的球迷都會喜歡他的
舉動,我還是喜歡他這樣幹,而且這是必須的
● He quit on his team after the fight, just like he does on popups.
他打完架就跑了,就跟那個飛球一樣
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平衡報導
其實Harper是國民跑最多Extra base的人 好像56.x%
在全聯盟排第14 他平常打安打會很認真跑壘
但是在這種必死球下不認真跑壘已經不是第一次了 常常會這樣做
去年也因為這樣被罰呆板凳
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※ 編輯: WillWaiting (50.153.239.9), 09/29/2015 14:35:38
※ 編輯: WillWaiting (50.153.239.9), 09/29/2015 14:36:00
推 herger: 第四則翻錯了 應該是Harper而非寶貝碰 09/29 14:36
※ 編輯: WillWaiting (50.153.239.9), 09/29/2015 14:36:39
→ WillWaiting: 打錯了 現在在校稿 09/29 14:36
推 Zuleta: ＢＲＯＴＨＥＲ 熊庹！ 09/29 14:36
※ 編輯: WillWaiting (50.153.239.9), 09/29/2015 14:37:48
→ nakayamayyt: 哈潑之前常拚到受傷 講他不積極滿奇怪 09/29 14:37
推 Taidalmc: 就打不好的時候慢跑啊 恰恰火哥也常這樣被酸 09/29 14:38
→ WillWaiting: Harper很奇怪 他防守跟跑安打很積極 09/29 14:38
→ Taidalmc: 可是該拚的時候還是會拚 特別是國際賽 09/29 14:38
→ WillWaiting: 但把球打鳥飛時自己就會很不爽 慢慢跑這樣 09/29 14:38
→ WillWaiting: 所以其他的球員早就知道Harper的毛病 09/29 14:39
→ WillWaiting: 只是沒人敢出來講而已 09/29 14:39
→ betadu: 你漏了Lindor才剛因為慢跑被拉下場那段 09/29 14:41
推 Strasburg: 最後那則有點好笑 09/29 14:41
推 encorej77107: 就牌子問題了 09/29 14:42
推 edouard09: 倒數第三則鄉民看不進去啦 09/29 14:42
→ encorej77107: 如果是柯蕭教訓成績普通打者 鄉民推文就會相反 09/29 14:43
噓 garbo: 學長學弟雉 09/29 14:45
→ v2v2123: 美國最棒棒了 不管是種族歧視還是欺負菜鳥 全都沒有 09/29 14:55
推 sesd: 老球員想法是 打哈波是對的 但不能公開打 請到休息室開扁 09/29 14:58
→ sesd: 寶貝碰也不是什麼好咖就是了 有名的休息室麻煩製造者 09/29 14:59
推 Werth: 借轉 09/29 15:00
※ Werth:轉錄至看板 MLB 09/29 15:00
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推 ps20012001: 有點懶的爭辯..對一個整年守備跑壘都會狂拼的人 09/29 15:05
→ ps20012001: 一個季末的偷懶 都會被這麼放大檢視... 09/29 15:06
→ ps20012001: 不過 不過如何..動手的人去死吧... 09/29 15:06
→ Jouhnny: 覺得官網的DeRosa評論蠻有道理的 後援投手不應該對野手 09/29 15:10
→ Jouhnny: 比賽方式表示意見 但Harper也不用當面回嗆 09/29 15:10
推 ps20012001: 這就是V大在總版說過的 沒有leader的問題 09/29 15:11
→ ps20012001: 寶貝碰來沒多久 令人厭惡度就快追上sorry了..嘖 09/29 15:13
推 ug945: 不記名調查??? 裡面有MVP嗎ZZZzz 09/29 18:29
→ vg175: 躲起來打+1 最好在浴室解決 09/29 19:51
推 STARKUO: 寶貝碰不夠格啦！何況Harper根本沒錯，只因為他菜 09/29 20:11
推 garfieldxx: 寶貝碰太衝了 雙方都有需要檢討的地方 09/29 21:32
推 ddtddt: 同意樓上:) 一個銅板敲不響 09/29 22:04
推 vg175: Trea Turner首轟 09/30 08:43
推 vg175: Harper破Ken Singleton在1973年創下的單季123次保送紀錄 09/30 08:49
→ vg175: ps.博覽會 09/30 08:49
推 kenkenken31: 被勇士完封了...太慘了,覺得會有個悲慘的季末QQ 10/01 09:23
推 batmask: 根本無心比賽了吧這些人 10/01 09:44
推 vg175: 國民明明很稱職地當攪局者啊 君不見連續兩個系列賽都在擾亂 10/01 13:11
→ vg175: 費城跟斧頭的狀元之路? 10/01 13:11
→ Werth: 這兩年有什麼值得好好坦的大物嗎? 10/01 14:55
推 kenkenken31: 今年令人驚奇的除了Harper和上半季Scherzer外,就是撿 10/02 12:43
推 kenkenken31: 到Clint吧? 他雖然沒很強,但看他打擊(守備冏)讓我看 10/02 12:46
→ kenkenken31: 到其他人缺少的選球能力,不球來就打,敢放掉球去等更 10/02 12:48
→ kenkenken31: 有利的好壞球,逼投手投甜一點,就是別隊那麼做時會讓 10/02 12:49
→ kenkenken31: 讓自己投手很討厭很緊張的作法,幾個老班底球來就打 10/02 12:50
→ kenkenken31: 打那些沒顧忌又刁鑽的球總是碰運氣......以前只在意 10/02 12:52
→ kenkenken31: 王葛格和後面的守備,現在幾年看來真心覺得這不是贏球 10/02 12:53
→ kenkenken31: 之道 10/02 12:53
推 Skynet: 還有Escobar 今年這成績也算超值了 只是好像很容易被遺忘 10/02 21:47
推 kenkenken31: 真的不小心忘了XD 10/03 09:15