作者redhessainnz (Adiemus)
看板PHX-Suns
標題[外電] What will it take for Amare to stay?
時間Thu Apr 29 18:52:04 2010
By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=
adande_ja&page=amare-10042
翻重點
There are still those who think that with a deep playoff run, Suns owner
Robert Sarver could get caught up in the emotion enough to spend
out-of-character big bucks on Stoudemire. And then there's the reality
interjected by Stoudemire, who has spoken in serious tones ever since he was
a 20-year-old rookie.
有人認為如果Suns一路殺到總冠軍 Sarver就會心血來潮的花大錢簽下Stoudermire
但Stoudermire今天很認真的說:
"I don't think it makes any difference," he said of the Suns' playoff
performance. "We've got a chance to do something special, which would be
great, something to build on. That would definitely be a positive for us. But
there's no telling what this offseason may bring."
"我不認為這(季後賽的表現)會有任何影響,如果我們真的打到總冠軍 那真的會很棒
那絕對會增加我留在Suns的機會,不過這不會代表我在這夏天 就不會採取任何行動"
But he's expected to opt out and join what could be the last big free-agent
seller's market before a new collective bargaining agreement kicks in for 2011
他被認為會跳出他的合約並加入在2011薪資架構變動以前最大的一次自由市場
The Suns could sign him to extension and take him off the market. But with
all of the reports of on-again, off-again negotiations between the Suns and
Stoudemire's agent, Happy Walters, there have been no signatures on the line
which is dotted. Part of it is a reluctance by the franchise to commit to max
money on a player they still haven't fully embraced. And Stoudemire isn't
going to offer a hometown discount to a team that has repeatedly put him on
the trading block -- and at this point he would either have to take a lower
average salary or one fewer year in order to get a deal done.
太陽與大史的經紀人Walter 的談判一直是斷斷續續,那是因為太陽一直很不情願跟一個
他們不確定是不是絕對想要的球員簽下頂薪合約,而大史也不願意在價錢上有所讓步*
因為太陽過去有太多想把他交易出去的傳言。如果兩邊都不讓步 大史可能會簽一個
短一年或筆略低於頂新的合約(前提是他選擇留在太陽)
*Hometown discount: 如果一個球員的身涯都待在同一隊 他通常都願意在續約時給球團
一個折扣。(誰幫我潤一下這一句)
jlcsn:願意跟原球團佛心續
Stoudemire is evaluating performance and potential, as well.
Stoudemire 不只看現在的戰績而已 他也看未來的可能性
"Winning a championship is the ultimate goal," he said. "That's the only
criteria. Winning a championship and contending for it for years to come."
"總冠軍是絕對的目標,贏得它並在來年持續有機會攻頂"
"I think Amare is someone who wanted to play real well this [season] to have
his options," Dudley said. "Early on, he probably wanted to be back here in
Phoenix, but just like any other star player, he wanted to have the option of
them offering the type of money you deserve.
Dudley:我認為Amare這一季打得特別好因為他想要在季後有更多的選擇,早一時(多早?)
他可能是想要留在這裡 不過就像其他的明星球員一樣 他想要拿到他應得的薪水
"I think it's going to be up to Phoenix, after it's all said and done, to
say, this is what he wants, you either want to give it to him or not. They
have the options to do a sign-and-trade. If the demands aren't reached, I
could see him going to New York, to Miami.
"I'm hoping we can go further to put a lot of pressure on Phoenix to sign him
back."
Dudley: 我認為決定權在球團。球團也可以選擇跟他簽約然後再把他交易到別隊
如果最後雙方沒有達成共識,我認為他會選擇去New York or Miami。我希望我們能
給球團施加壓力 逼他們簽下大史。
The question remains, would it be worth bringing him back if the Suns deliver
anything less than a championship?
The Suns have had Stoudemire pre-knee surgery and post-knee surgery; they've
been to the Western Conference finals both with him and when he was
sidelined. In order for it to be worth it for them, they need assurances they
can be elite with him, not just another good team.
問題是太陽如果拿不到總冠軍 那到底值不值得根大史續約。過去太陽曾經在有大史
與沒大史的情況下打到西區冠軍戰。太陽想要成為頂尖球隊而不只是一支很好的球隊。
There's the Steve Nash effect, in which everyone's numbers tend to look nicer
playing alongside the league's assist leader.
別忘了Nash效應: 所有人的數據都會變得很棒因為他們是跟聯盟助攻王一起打球
But people forget that Stoudemire can do it on his own. He averaged more
than 20 points a game in his second season when Stephon Marbury was the point
guard (the definition of every man for himself).
也別忘了Stoudemire也是可以不靠Nash的 他生涯第二年跟自幹王Marbury一起打時
就平均攻下20分。
Anyone can get you 20 points on a given night. Suns reserve center Channing
Frye did it Monday after scoring only 26 points in the first four games of
the series. Even Dudley had 19. Stoudemire has averaged 20.2 for the five
games, never scoring fewer than 18 points.
任何人都可以一個晚上攻下20分(如Frye and Dudley) 但不是每一人都可以在這過去五
場平均攻下20.2分
"You need a player like that," Dudley said.
Dudley: 你需要一個像那樣的球員
在我的心目中 大前鋒裡只有Tim Duncan(28歲)值得一年兩千萬
PS: 09-10球季 個人頂級薪資: 資歷7-9年:17310000, 10年+: 20195000
呼這篇竟然打了50分鐘 T_T
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)
◆ From: 60.234.188.129
※ 編輯: redhessainnz 來自: 60.234.188.129 (04/29 18:58)
推 noodles73 :頭推 04/29 19:18
推 ray0487 :推! 04/29 19:19
推 b761028 :Dudley做gm好了 04/29 19:19
推 ASDF0714 :真的要到TD KG那種攻防都頂級的大前才有2000萬的價值 04/29 19:26
推 DragonCloud :很喜歡阿罵但是如果要兩千萬真的就... 04/29 19:30
→ DragonCloud :除非他季後賽可以幫助球隊打到冠軍賽 04/29 19:31
推 NIOHA :樓上又讓我不得不提Rashard Lewis了 囧 04/29 19:32
推 DASHOCK :真的要到TD KG那種攻防都頂級的大前才有2000萬的價值 04/29 19:37
→ DASHOCK :太貴就沒辦法 只能祝福他了QoQ 04/29 19:37
→ redhessainnz:記得03年 TD如鬼神般在季後賽大殺四方 抖抖 04/29 19:41
※ 編輯: redhessainnz 來自: 60.234.188.129 (04/29 19:42)
推 Kshatri :佛心價? 04/29 20:59
推 juicyfarmer :太陽想要曾為頂尖球隊 有錯字喔! 成! 04/29 21:24
感謝
推 chick1227 :為啥訪問Dudley啊 XD 04/29 22:06
因為Dudley的衣櫃再阿罵得旁邊
推 jasonlin68 :那就殺到總冠軍吧 04/29 22:14
推 jlcsn :佛心價很有FU~鄉土一點就是願意跟原球團佛心續約~ 04/29 22:17
→ jlcsn :今年拿下總冠軍給他2000萬我覺得很ok阿XD 04/29 22:18
→ jlcsn :打掉湖人那幾個內線拿到西冠的話~我猜75M/4y 04/29 22:19
推 jack0124 :TD28歲要是待在湖人可能要破2000萬...... 04/29 22:36
推 sunsnick3 :為什麼要在第六戰前談續約問題 是不是會影響? 04/29 22:43
推 wesyrb :換個老闆就沒問題了QQ 04/29 23:23
推 mystage :nash效應應該是很多鋒線球員很在意的吧 04/29 23:37
推 sin812 :達利:恩?關我屁事? 04/29 23:46
推 TAYLOR888 :我實在不看好沒有Nash的他... 04/29 23:47
推 GoddyDD :祝福阿罵找個好歸屬~有WADE和JAMES要來太陽的八卦嗎? 04/30 00:19
推 bll135 :我想阿罵下半季的表現已經證明了「他能打成這樣」 04/30 00:24
→ bll135 :只是他想不想而已。 04/30 00:24
推 bll135 :理想一點的說,上半季因為阿罵交易傳聞纏身所以奇檬 04/30 00:28
→ bll135 :子不好;留下來後心情爽了,就開始大屠殺 04/30 00:28
→ bll135 :但是他簽下來會不會繼續這麼認真打還不知道... 04/30 00:28
→ bll135 :不簽他的話,那麼大概就是重建了(之前有大大分析過) 04/30 00:29
→ bll135 :如果不續約 太陽也沒辦法再簽一個頂級球星下來 04/30 00:29
→ bll135 :另外阿罵這人也是......我怎麼記得他有說過願意/希望 04/30 00:31
→ bll135 :留下來這類的話阿? 04/30 00:31
→ bll135 :可見8254、8255篇 04/30 00:33
→ bll135 :也可以參考8191 04/30 00:33
推 BleedWang :要留 關鍵還是在Sarver身上 04/30 00:51
推 holices :簽不到他 就隨便簽個Bosh吧(誤!) 04/30 01:18
※ 編輯: redhessainnz 來自: 60.234.188.129 (04/30 05:49)
推 jjoonnyy :主要還是看季後賽可以走多遠吧!!! 04/30 08:37
推 philluke :現在老大的助攻隊阿罵已經影響不大了 真的有影響的 04/30 09:06
→ philluke :也只有Nash對比賽的理解 對其他隊有的組織 以及清楚 04/30 09:06
→ philluke :用什麼樣的戰術才可以讓阿罵展開身手 才可以讓其他 04/30 09:07
→ philluke :球員能夠配合啟阿罵的進攻 不論站位或是跑位 04/30 09:08
推 DASHOCK :我討厭阿罵的經紀人....從這份合約就是這樣 04/30 11:36
→ DASHOCK :很怕弄成湖人留不住阿里沙那樣 04/30 11:36