[外電] 太陽乳摸：Nash,Dragic,Marshall,D-Will

[toddchen (陶得得)]

                             Phoenix Suns Rumors:
   Nash, Dragic, Marshall, Williams; Plans A-B-C-D or is that A-D-C-B?

來源：http://ppt.cc/f5x2

Who knows what's Plan A vs. Plan B vs. Plan C vs. Plan D in the Suns' thinking.
We on the outside have no idea what order the Suns would put these potential
point guards, but you've got to think the Suns have their order already laid
out.

誰知道太陽對於「計畫A、B、C、D」的想法。我們外人完全不知道太陽是怎麼排序。但是
你一定會想太陽應該已經有他們的優先順位了。

In the past 24 hours, the Suns have expressed interest in PG draft prospects
Kendall Marshall and Damian Lillard. They've also been rumored to want free-
agent-to-be Goran Dragic back, if Nash leaves. On top of that, Jared Dudley
(Mr Social Media himself) recently told a reporter that the Suns have a real
shot to keep Steve Nash, and other reporters have listed the Suns as Deron
Williams' third-best free agent option this summer.

在過去24小時的乳摸blablalbla...，在此之上，J-Dudley（社群媒體先生）最新報導指
出，太陽確實出手輓留Nash了。而其他報導則說太陽會是D-Will的第三順位。

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Wow. So maybe the Suns need to resolve their point guard problem, with Nash
being 39 and a free agent? Whuda thunk it?

哇，所以太陽或許會讓39歲的FA，NASH來解決他們的PG問題？誰知道阿？

None of this is a surprise to Suns fans, for sure. None is breaking news.

拿到空氣對太陽迷來說一點都不...(誤)
如果啥都沒有的話，對太陽迷來說一定是個驚喜，啥都沒有絕對是個獨家新聞。

The question I'm asking today is: in what order do the Suns have these guys on
their secret white board? In any ranking, you have to weigh the likelihood
successful acquisition against your love for the player himself.

我今天所要提出的問題是，在太陽的沙盤中，這些傢伙的順序是如何？不管怎麼排，你都
要去衡量能獲得多高成功的可能性，而不只是你對他們的愛。

Hit the jump for links to rumors/quotes on these guys, as well as my
risk/probability analysis that must play into their thinking.

First, let's establish the substance of each rumor.
下面是相關乳摸


Damian Lillard

From John Treloar, Suns' draft boss, to Paul Coro of azcentral.com: The Suns
would love to see Lillard available but he is a likely top-10 pick, especially
with teams willing to trade up to snatch him.

"I saw him a lot and it was impressive. He was the main focus of the other
team's defense and still was the second leading scorer in the country (24.5
points per game). He didn't break out of the offense to get his points. They
came out of the flow of the offense and within the rhythm of his team."

在http://ppt.cc/9IDr報導中，太陽選秀老大John Treloar表示對他有興趣，但是他應該
是前十順位，特別是那些透過向上交易的球隊都想要抓到他。

他很棒，儘管在對手加強防守之下，仍能在得分榜上名列第2(場均24.5分)。他的得分並不
會破壞掉隊伍的攻擊感，而是能隨著球隊的攻擊風格和節奏中取得分數。


Kendall Marshall

Visiting for the second time in a week, which shows some heightened level of
interest in him over others in the draft.

From John Treloar, Suns' draft boss, to Paul Coro of azcentral.com: "There are
going to be questions until he goes out there and shows what he can do in the
NBA," Treloar said. "Personally, I think he'll improve in the NBA. He makes
players better."

來了兩次，顯示太陽對選他有高度的興趣。

http://ppt.cc/9IDr同上來源，選秀老大說「直到他來到NBA秀出他所能做的，他都還是有
些問題的，但是我個人覺得他能讓NBA更棒，他可以做的很好」

Goran Dragic

Sean Deveny of sportingnews.com has always had good dirt on the Suns over the
years, despite the front office changes. So when he mentions Suns' interest,
I'm inclined to believe it's real.

Assuming that is not Houston, a source told Sporting News, Dragic could wind
up in a familiar surrounding anyway-back in Phoenix. Should the Suns lose Nash
in free agency, Phoenix is expected to make a push to re-sign Dragic and give
him the reins in coach Alvin Gentry's offense. That would suit Dragic.

http://ppt.cc/5_th指出，太陽隊他有興趣。

如果火箭隊放過他，抓雞雞可能就會回到他熟悉的太陽。若是太陽在FA失去了Nash，太陽
就會想要重簽回抓雞雞。

"I learned a lot in Phoenix, I had a very good time there," he said. "I don't
know what is going to happen, but that is an organization I know, obviously,
and they helped me a lot."

抓雞雞說「我在太陽學到很多，在那邊有過美好的時光，我並不知道未來會發生什麼，但
是那裡是我所熟知的組織，顯然的，他們也幫我了很多。」


Steve Nash

Our own Jared Dudley recentlyexpressed optimism to Alex Kennedy of hoopsworld
.com in Steve coming back: "If he wants to go try to win a championship, hey,
more power to him," Dudley said. "If he wants to stay and help this process,
more power to him. I definitely think he'll weigh his options and see what he
can do. Steve wants to compete and he wants to play for an organization that
wants to compete. If he feels that's the Suns or another organization, he'll
definitely decide that, but I definitely think it's 50/50. I think the Suns
have a huge, real shot at bringing him back."

毫無疑問先生（達利），在http://ppt.cc/QEVF的文章對於Nash將會回來一事如此說「如
果他想要贏得一座冠軍，嘿，幫他加油；如果他想要留下來並協助我們，請幫他加油。我
毫無疑問的認為他會權衡他的選項並看看他能做些什麼，Steve想要去挑戰而且他想要和一
個想要挑戰的組織一起打球。如果他覺得太陽或是其他球隊是這樣的話，他毫無疑問會決
定過去。但是我毫無疑問的認為這應該是50/50的機率，我想太陽已經進行了一個巨大，且
確實的在努力讓他回來。」

That's a lot more positive than I remember him talking about Amare two years
ago. Back then, he expressed concern over the Suns need to step up in a big
way. This time, Dudley didn't mention concern over the Suns at all. It's in
Nash's court, as its always been.

這比我印象中他兩年前對於Amare一事所說得，還要正面許多。但話說回來，文章他說到
太陽要讓Nash回來，需要一個巨大的努力。這次達利並不是完全從太陽隊方面去考量，而
是從Nash的角度，而這也是一直以來的。


Deron Williams

And then there's the repeated link to max-contract FA Deron Williams. It's the
flimsiest of them all, but it's still there and it's not going away. Williams
WILL sign a max contract. The question is: with who?

Chris Broussard recently wrote an insider piece for the mothership, detailing
Williams' options. Of course, the Nets (most money, most years) and Dallas
(room for max contract, still have Dirk and Cuban but much else) are the
front-runners. No question they are the leaders in the clubhouse. But is there
another very real option, a dark horse?

要簽FA蝶龍(D-will)需要頂約，這是老生重談的事。這已經是毫無疑問的事，但仍然懸在
半空中，蝶龍將會簽個頂約，問題是「要和誰？」

http://ppt.cc/jYOQ報導詳細的列出蝶龍的選項，當然籃網隊（最多錢、年限最高）、小
牛隊（有頂約的空間、而且還有司機和Cuban等等）會是首選。毫無疑問他們領先其他球
隊好幾個馬身。但是除此之外呢？是否還有其他真的有機會的黑馬？

That leaves Phoenix. The weather and golf (Williams is a huge golf guy) is
great, the offense is free-flowing (something Williams is definitely looking
for), and with him, the team could be on the rise. While the Suns' first choice
appears to be re-signing Nash, the younger Williams is a better option. I don't
think the Suns could move ahead of Dallas on Williams' list, but they should
not be completely discounted either.

這就是太陽對了，這裡天氣佳、打高爾夫球又棒（蝶龍是個高球狂），而且這裡的進攻風
格又相當自由（這是蝶龍毫無疑問想追求的），此外有了他，這隻球隊一定會向上提昇。
儘管太陽隊的第一選擇會是續約Nash，但是一個年輕的蝶龍一定是個很棒的選項。我雖然
不認為太陽在蝶龍的清單中可以爬到小牛隊之前，但是他們絕對不能將我們完全剔除。


So there you have the latest rumors on the Suns point guard for 2012.

以上是太陽2012年最新的乳摸。

First, let's rank these guys in order of 2012-13 talent, giving the Suns the
best chance to win lots of games:

Williams
Nash
Dragic
rookie

首先，我們來列出2012-13年最有天份，可以讓太陽在12-13球既贏得最多勝：

1.蝶龍     2.Nash     3.抓雞雞     4.菜鳥新秀


Next, let's rank these guys in order of longer-term talent, beyond 2012-13:

Williams
Rookie (Lillard/Marshall)
Dragic
Nash

接著，列出在12-13年之後，最能擁有長遠天賦的排名

1.蝶龍    2.菜鳥新秀(Lillard/ Marshall)     3.抓雞雞    4.Nash


Finally, let's rank them in order of how EASY it will be for the front office
to sign them:

Rookie (Marshall)
Dragic
Nash
Williams

最後，我們列出對於高層，最容易簽到的排名：

1.菜鳥新秀(Marshall)    2.抓雞雞    3.Nash     4.蝶龍


It will be a complete shock if Williams signs with the Suns.The Suns would
likely have to acquire another all-star level talent first, then talk Williams
into spurning Dallas and NJ for a contender in Phoenix. On a lesser scale, the
Suns still have to improve at least a little in free agency to keep Nash. But
since the front office has shown little creativity to date, that could be
difficult.

如果簽到蝶龍，那將完全會是個超級震撼的消息。首先要說太陽會獲得個全明星級的球員
，然後我們在說到蝶龍兩腳踹開籃網和小牛這兩個領先太陽隊的競爭者。在現實一點來說
，太陽還是努力在FA中留住Nash吧。但是就我們制服組展現的貧乏創意之下，這可能很困
難。


Signing Dragic to a big free agent contract or drafting a point guard, though,
is a LOT easier. Neither requires a great level of creativity or agressiveness.
That's why I ranked these higher in the "ease" category.

給抓雞雞簽個大約、或是選個PG，這應該是『簡單』非常多。既不需要有非常高的創意、
也不需要什麼攻略的能力。這就是為何我會把他們排到容易簽到的名單中較高的位置。


So what will the Suns do? In what order do they have these guys?

The Suns actual ranking of these options likely weighs both talent AND
probability. To do that, the Suns have to decide what's most important. Spend
money to win big in 2012-13? Or re-build the team around a rookie PG?

所以太陽隊會怎麼做呢？對於這些傢伙他們的順位怎麼排？

太陽必須好好衡量這些選項的天賦以及簽到的可能性。為此，太陽要決定什麼是最重要的
，花錢去在12-13球季贏個大勝利？還是要圍繞著PG來重建？


On opening night, you could see a contender step onto the court with Deron
Williams leading the charge, flanked by a SG tandem of rookie/vet shooting
guard, Hill/Dudley, new PF and Gortat.

在太陽開幕夜晚，你可能會見到一個順利爭贏的球隊，在蝶龍的率領之下，從休息間跑進
球場，擁護在其後的依序是菜鳥/老將的SG、Hill或達利、新的PF以及鍋貼。

Or you could see a rookie lead the charge with new, young faces all over the
court and a 20-win season pre-ordained

或者你會見到的是由菜鳥所領軍的全新面孔、青春的肉體，但是在開季前就已經註定著只
有20勝的球季。

But the most likely scenario might just be Nash leading the charge, flanked by
a team of middle-tier "if everything goes right" playoff talent.

但是最有可能的情節是，由Nash所領軍，擁護者一整隊中等階級的季後賽天賦球員，衝進
球場。(如果一切都能做對的話)

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推 vlckcy      :簽回小帥哥!
推 wugui       :簽回小帥哥!
推 abcd810112  :胖子別想了 努力簽回師徒倆比較實際
推 thegod13    :如果能向上交易選秀  才比較可能簽Nash+小帥哥吧?
→ thegod13    :否則PG有點多  (況且表弟要當替補也不是太差)
推 thegod13    :我覺得太陽會選PG  然後簽Nash(1)/小帥哥(2)之一
→ wugui       :我倒覺得會選SG 然後老大或小帥哥配太妃
→ wugui       :不然就是只選PG 然後其他就隨便簽幾個FA了事
推 thegod13    :養小河流嗎?  小河流是不是不太適合Nash系統啊?
推 kaiDX       :我最希望的真的是簽回師徒
→ kaiDX       :小河流在總板的消息 貌似前11順位大有機會被選走
推 wugui       :其實最希望選的是M.Kendall 反正來太陽後就可以長
→ wugui       :投射能力了 雖然這樣也代表老大小帥哥就沒機會了
推 thegod13    :相廝守
→ thegod13    :可惡沒有插隊  Kendall純PG比較合口味  風險也不高
推 thegod13    :喜歡這種聰明的球員  就算得分不高  還是可以幫助
→ thegod13    :其他球員  16ast http://tinyurl.com/857a4q4
推 icenivek    :如果留不住Nash那我一定要小帥哥回來!!
→ icenivek    :如果留得住Nash我還是要小帥哥回來!!
推 truegodchild:簡單說就是選擇太多...
→ toddchen    :如果選擇不夠多的話，太陽搞不好屁都沒有
推 truegodchild:選擇多也是有可能變連屁都沒有
推 Archer002   :小帥哥+1
推 AJCole      :留下NASH+簽回小帥哥+選到小河流 精神在 未來有 SG補
推 bemily32    :抓雞雞~~~
推 nashill13   :抓雞雞回來吧
推 GoRockMyLife:Dragic長遠天賦輸新秀是怎麼回事......?????
推 JHNJHNJHN   :抓雞雞!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
→ toddchen    :正常阿，就跟玩BB時，過22歲的就沒潛能成長了
推 jasonlin68  :太陽都喜歡比PG丟到德州進修就是?
→ jasonlin68  :          把
→ toddchen    :過個水，會比較厲害阿！
推 pp510       :小帥哥+1
推 truegodchild:長遠天賦...看看選秀中大四生的待遇...
推 theren13    :以球隊的角度還是覺得放老大簽別人補其他位置最實際
→ theren13    :但還是希望有老大在.....
推 kaimar      :話說太陽完全不考慮Marquis Teague?感覺上較不極端..
→ chadtracy   :完全不考慮蝶龍....
→ chadtracy   :跟本就跟太陽隊形不符