[問題] 方法請求項中步驟的產物

[las1226 (las)]

從公告案中觀察到方法請求項有些會寫步驟的產物,有些不會寫

對於步驟的產物是否明確的判斷小弟相當疑惑

舉例來說,US8580880的請求項1:

A method for stabilizing liquid mercury, comprising the steps of:
A) reacting in stoichiometric conditions liquid mercury and a first elemental
sulfur through a milling process to obtain a first product;
B) adding said first product to aggregates, a second elemental sulfur and a
sulfur polymer to obtain a second product, said first and second elemental
sulfur is a sulfur powder with a particle size less than 60 μm, and said
adding is carried out at a temperature between 130° C. and 165° C.

其中first product與second product未提到各自組成為何?解釋上有點不明確

但如果從其他觀點來看,firsr product與second product是步驟A與B的結果,

好像又可以如此解釋

另舉例來說,US8530715的請求項1

A method of producing a hydrocarbon product, the method comprising:
hydrotreating a feedstock comprising at least one of a renewable
triacylglyceride (TAG), renewable fatty acid, renewable fatty acid C1-C5
alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE), and a mixture thereof, in the presence of a
nonsulfided hydrotreating catalyst, to produce a first product comprising
hydrocarbons and optionally to produce unconverted starting material
comprising the at least one of the renewable triacylglyceride (TAG), the
renewable fatty acid, the renewable fatty acid C1-C5 alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE),
and the mixture thereof, wherein in the first product, a concentration of at
least one of hydrocarbons with an odd-number of carbon atoms, cyclic
hydrocarbons, and hydrocarbons with an even-number of carbon atoms, is
dependent on a temperature used during the hydrotreating; and
controlling the temperature of the hydrotreating to be a first temperature
such that a weight ratio of the hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon
atoms to the hydrocarbons having an odd-number of carbon atoms is greater
than 1:1, and then further comprising increasing the first temperature by an
amount of about 8° C. to about 55° C., such that the weight ratio of the
hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon atoms to the hydrocarbons having
an odd-number of carbon atoms decreases to less than 1:1; wherein the
renewable TAG, renewable fatty acid, and renewable C1-C5 FAE comprise fatty
acid units that have an even number of carbon atoms.

其中first product有提到其組成,解釋上其為何很明確.

想問的是這二件公告案採用不同手法描述步驟的產物

前者很簡潔但有點不明確,後者很冗長但很清楚

想問各位版大的看法與建議

還是有相關資料有探討此部分

感謝!

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