Re: [問題] 找博士後工作的經驗

[dearevan (歸去，也無風雨也無晴)]

※ 引述《liverworts (觀流水兮潺湲)》之銘言：
: 標題: Re: [問題] 找博士後工作的經驗
: 時間: Fri Jun  4 05:03:03 2010
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: I'm in a different field and I'll start a postdoc in August. Actually I've not
: graduated yet, but considering how bad the job market in US is this year I started
: job applications (NGOs, private sectors, postdoc) in Feb.
:
: Congratulations that you got 3 out of 10 resposnes! I only got 4 out of over 25
: submissions.
:
: Did you already get an official offer letter from the lab in US? Did the offer
: letter specify salary, benefits, (relocation), and starting date? Is there a
: deadline for your response?
:
: If you already sent a form and CV to England, you may email them again to inquire
: about your application status. But don't mention to either side yet that you
: have another potential opportunity unless you already got an official offer.
:
: You can tell the lab in US that you need to time to consider, etc. And did they
: invite you to visit their campus? In my case I was invited to visit the lab and was
: told that I'll receive the offer letter during the visit. In my case the offer
: was very generous and the projects are a great fit and that's the only confirmed
: offer so far.....so I accepted in 2 days.
:
: But before you sign the offer letter....make sure that everything has reached
: a good mutual agreement. Your advisor should be able to provide you tips about
: how to negotiate. Good luck!
:
: P.S. The job market is really tight right now and we beggers can't be choosers.
: If you like the projects and people in that US lab and if the salary and
: benefits are good enough, you may consider to accept your offer. After all
: you can start applying for other jobs next year :D
: ※ 引述《dearevan (歸去，也無風雨也無晴)》之銘言：
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: ※ 編輯: liverworts      來自: 70.112.187.21        (06/04 05:05)
: 推 dearevan:謝謝                                                   06/04 07:00
: → saltlake:不管要去要談 都先收到 Offer Letter 再說 免得有變卦     06/04 07:59
: 推 dearevan:美國那邊已經給了offer letter, 但是我確定不會去那家了   06/04 08:02
: → dearevan:還是先回過頭寫信給德國有接洽的那位老闆                 06/04 08:03

後來想想, 美國那一家確實不是很理想的去處
謝謝各為前輩的提攜指點
或許由於目前只有這家確定要收, 在茫茫職海當中就像一根稻草緊抓手中
不過一陣慌亂之後靜下心想想, 這確實是要婉轉拒絕阿
也該趁這時候學會拒絕的方法

另外德國前一個單位有寄信問我可不可以下禮拜去面試
我回信說因為護照寄回台北駐馬德里辦事處所以要等三個禮拜
這封信寄出去之後對方遲遲沒有回信
本來想說可能惹怒對方了, 不過沒回信也不知道對方是怎麼想的
於是鼓起勇氣再寫一封信告訴對方辦事處的人是怎麼回答的
以及若真的有需要, 搭火車一路晃過去我都願意
希望對方能看到這封信並給予一個明確的回答(哪怕是明確拒絕都好)

另外這邊想提醒各位即將出國的準博士
護照更新非常重要
因為護照到期前半年就不能申請簽證使用
如果即將畢業, 那麼要早點去把護照更新處理好, 遠早於開始找工作之前
我其實四月份以前就該想到護照更新這件事情
並且去把這事情早點處理好, 也就不用像現在的窘況了

希望能鼓起夠多的勇氣拒絕這份offer
更希望德國那邊的老闆早點回信

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→ voices:或許可以考慮用Skype interveiw
→ saltlake:有疑慮就積極跟對方談 跨國僱人 約好時間越洋電話口試
→ saltlake:或者用更先進的通訊技術口試是很正常的  不要光傻等
→ saltlake:表現自己做事情的積極性 一般會讓雇主有正面印象
→ dearevan:Thank you very much
推 cnlin6:現在通訊那麼方便，不管是skype或手機都可以interview
→ cnlin6:我當初就是用電話談的～感覺還滿不錯～我也順利的找到博後