作者knoxvillt (胖胖)
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標題[外電] 乳摸: 紅鳥有意願將Colby Rasmus交易至閃光
時間Wed Jul 13 05:47:51 2011
Rumor: Cardinals Interested In Trading Colby Rasmus To Rays
From
MLBTradeRumors:
The Cardinals "
might reconsider [their] stance" on trading center fielder Colby
Rasmus, reports Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He adds that GM
John Mozeliak "would have to acquire a
significant return for Rasmus but may be
willing to
plumb long-standing interest from the pitching-rich Tampa Bay Rays."
紅雀GM John Mozeliak 有意將陣中CF Colby Rasmus 交易出去,但對方必須要付出極大
代價,也許是農場擁有豐富投手資源的光芒(John Mozeliak 對其投手相當有興趣)。
Call me crazy, but I don't see the match.
Rasmus is a great player,
but he's
essentially a slightly cheaper version of B.J. Upton. He hits for a
low average
(around .250), walks a bunch (11% of the time), and hits for a
moderate amount
of power (23 homeruns last year; .170 ISO this season). His
defence gets mixed
reviews from the defensive stats -- though the popular consensus is that
he's a
decent defender --
but he's a sure bet to post a 3.0 WAR season each year.
Sound similar?
So why would the Rays trade a starting pitcher to acquire a
duplicate of a player they already own?
1. Rasmus 是位很棒的球員,但本質上其為 B.J. Upton 的略為廉價版而已。
2. 生涯成績目前為止:BA .250左右、被BB數佔其生涯打席的11%、擁有不錯的Power
(去年擊出23轟;本季純長打率為.170)
3. 綜合各家守備數據普遍顯示出其防守相當不錯,但他(不知道指紅雀GM或乳摸文章作者)
確定 Rasmus 每年都能繳出 WAR 3.0 的成績嗎?
2和3顯示出 Rasmus 和 Upton 本質相當類似,原作者提出一個疑問:既然如此光芒為何
要用先發投手去換陣中擁有同性質的球員呢?
PS:以下為 Upton 和 Rasmus 生涯數據
B.J. Upton (7 season)
http://tinyurl.com/6h5h6e8
PA AB HR SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ WAR
3142 2744 82 186 58 353 777 .258 .343 .415 .758 104 15.6
WAR最高為07年4.7 OPS+最高為07年136
Colby Rasmus (3 season)
http://tinyurl.com/6xlzdhu
PA AB HR SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ WAR
1414 1255 48 20 11 139 316 .259 .333 .442 .775 111 6.6
WAR最高為10年3.2 OPS+最高為10年134
Rasmus has two advantages over Upton: he's
two years younger, and he's under
team control for
three more seasons. Of course, he's entering arbitration and
could still get a hefty payday, but he would still be cheaper than Upton next
season.
Rasmus 有2個優勢是 Upton 所沒有的:年輕2歲(Upton 1984 Rasmus 1986)且可以多使用
3個球季(Upton 2012 Rasmus 2014),不可避免的是 Rasmus 仲裁時將會付出一大筆薪水
但仍舊比 Upton 下季便宜。
Would Rasmus be a great player to acquire?
Sure, but I don't think the Rays are
going to be willing to pay as much as the Cardinals will want. They're looking
for a "
significant return" --
James Shields was brought up later in the article
on MLBTR -- and it would be rather silly for
the Rays to give up a big package
to acquire another outfielder. They have prospects
Desmond Jennings and
Brandon
Guyer waiting to
take over in the outfield,
so it's not as though they're in
desperate need of centerfield help right now.
1. 作者認為球隊會爭取 Rasmus,但不想其付出太大代價給紅雀(James Shields 出現
在乳摸裡)。
2. 球隊若是用一個大包裹去換得 Rasmus 是相當愚蠢的行為,Desmond Jennings 以及
Brandon Guyer 已經可以接管外野,所以CF需求並不是相當迫切的。
If the Cardinals were willing to deal Rasmus for cheap -- say,
Jeff Niemann --
then I'd be all for it. But if they expect to get
Shields or
Matt Moore,
they
can start looking elsewhere.
As we stated yesterday, the Rays are in the
driver's seat this trade deadline; they have lots of depth and no pressing need
to trade anyone, meaning they can be choosy about making trades.
Sorry Cards, you're not going to pry any top pitchers away from the Rays. Nice
try, though.
作者認為紅雀在此交易案若以 Jeff Niemann 為光芒要付出的代價可以交換,但如果是
Shields 或者 Matt Moore 那紅雀可以換下一個買家(換句話說就是要紅鳥別作夢)。
深綠色這邊就不翻,應該跟交易沒有太大關係。有錯請指正。
原文:
http://tinyurl.com/6x8kzlw
MLBTR:
http://tinyurl.com/6dzd7np
MLBTR
http://tinyurl.com/2fvzj7c
Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch said in a chat today that the
Cardinals would most covet Jeremy Hellickson in a potential trade involving
Rasmus and the Rays.
Joe Strauss: My information is that Jeremy Hellickson (24) is the pitcher the
Cardinals most covet in a potential deal. I'm not getting into the other
speculation.
Joe Strauss: I simply noted who the club covets. If Rasmus is indeed in play,
Hellickson represents a pitching equivalent.
http://tinyurl.com/5tp7jkw
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推 ckevint :假如這筆真的成真 我只能說這真的是很笨的舉動 07/13 06:18
→ ckevint :真的充其量只是換了年輕版的BJ 而且從其他版看到是說 07/13 06:19
→ ckevint :他的打球態度也不太好 我們需要更積極點的球員 07/13 06:19
推 waitla :第二段講defense那邊是說 他從防守從各種數據來看褒 07/13 07:19
→ waitla :第二段講defense那邊是說 他的防守從各種數據來看褒 07/13 07:19
→ waitla :貶不一 (但一般認為他是一個不錯的防守者) 但你可以 07/13 07:21
→ waitla :預期他每年都繳出WAR3.0的貢獻 07/13 07:21
→ fifth :換他就是要為了省點小錢啊 07/13 07:35
推 srysry :這交易Jennings會哭哭 況且Jennings在3A長出砲瓦 07/13 08:48
→ srysry :不覺得這交易有多大的利益 07/13 08:48
推 csy1911 :要省錢直接讓Jennings上位不就好 很少看到有人想主動 07/13 09:32
→ csy1911 :交易還抱持想搶劫的心態 Orz 07/13 09:33
→ fifth :Jennings受傷了啦 07/13 14:58
推 csy1911 :指傷休息兩周... 07/13 15:13
推 externaload :RAZ態度不好? 有一半跟老拉不喜歡他有關吧 打擊都快 07/13 20:35
→ externaload :被改爛了 07/13 20:35
推 zxzxas :BJ 換個外野 沒意思吧... 來個C吧 07/13 23:04
推 csy1911 : Rasmus Molina 07/13 23:26
推 ckevint :說實在我比較覺得拿去跟巨人或是國民換還比較划算... 07/14 01:44
推 immortalqq :最新乳摸 紅鳥想要Hellboy 07/14 09:14
推 ckevint :大開口了... 07/14 09:17
→ immortalqq :應該說對Hellboy很有興趣 不過我想要價太高了XXD 07/14 09:20
※ 編輯: knoxvillt 來自: 61.231.51.25 (07/14 09:32)