[討論] Hanley Ramirez

[JacqueJones (她依然很美)]

http://tinyurl.com/k755ofq

According to an industry source, the Red Sox are in advanced conversations
with free agent Hanley Ramirez, with the possibility that a deal “could come
together quickly.” As of this afternoon, the source said, there was not an
agreement between the sides, but the potential for a deal is real.

At this point, what is not clear is whether talks with Ramirez are as a third
base fallback should free agent Pablo Sandoval sign with one of his other
suitors (the Giants or Padres), or if the pursuit of Ramirez might be in
conjunction with the pursuit of Sandoval, with Ramirez moving to left field
and Sandoval at third base. If the Sox did pursue Ramirez, it could be part
of yet another domino, with the possibility of trading Yoenis Cespedes
increasing.

However, the Sox viewed Sandoval as their priority over Ramirez for a number
of reasons, including age (Sandoval is 28; Ramirez turns 31 this winter),
defense (Sandoval is an above-average defensive third baseman; Ramirez has
been viewed as one of the worst defensive shortstops in the big leagues, and
struggled in a half-season at third base with the Marlins), durability
(Ramirez has averaged 121 games a year over the last five seasons, Sandoval
135) and makeup (Sandoval is viewed as a strong clubhouse presence, Ramirez
was a polarizing figure with the Marlins prior to his trade to the Dodgers).


https://twitter.com/mlb_nl_al/status/536646960250646528

Reminder,I said Hanley and Boston are agreed on length/money.Still working
details.

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Hanley + Sandoval + Lester 甘五摳林?

還有另一說是幾近完成 剩細節需討論...

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推 jameshu0910: 有人說真簽了熊貓&小亨利就可以把XB賣掉等Marrero上
→ jameshu0910: 來接SS...
→ JacqueJones: 兩個都來的話 Bogaerts被交易去換SP也不用太意外
※ 編輯: JacqueJones (123.194.91.13), 11/24/2014 08:26:16
→ JacqueJones: 古巴人應該也會是被交易的對象 SP的洞搞不好就靠交易
→ JacqueJones: 補上
推 seekforever: 我覺得交易XB肯定後悔 他upside比當年Hanley還高
→ seekforever: 除非是Sale等級(便宜ACE) 不然實在很痛
推 chaohsiu: 我覺得如果真的成然後把XB交易掉，關鍵應該是亨利可以撐
→ chaohsiu: 幾年還有XB的包裹可以換到多好的SP
推 Absioute: 要交易的話或許會拿去換黑魔使
推 alex710707: 小亨利天花板比Xander bogaerts高
推 seekforever: Hanley在BA最高排到#10 XB在14年BA BP都排到第二
→ seekforever: Hanley在被交易時21歲還在2A XB已經在大聯盟先發了
推 alex710707: 天花板不是單純看排名跟年紀
推 seekforever: 如果你談的是那種"他可能是下一個XXX" 我尊重
→ seekforever: 不過XB現在的價值遠比那時的Hanley來的高
推 bryant780417: 當初都已經跑掉一個小亨利了  不要再讓XB跑掉了吧
→ JustinIdiot: 有些新秀的表現會超出預期的天花板 Trout跟Hanley
→ JustinIdiot: 都是上MLB才長出那樣的炮管 當時Hanley在攻擊輸出
→ JustinIdiot: 預期上應該比目前預期的XB全面 但XB的守備及炮瓦
→ JustinIdiot: 比較優異... 我是認為XB價值高一些
推 alex710707: Bogaerts最好的情況就是打出前幾年的成績
→ alex710707: 速度小亨利樂勝，守備誰好還難說
→ JustinIdiot: 不過要用XB換Sale 一個是proven ace 而且便宜 一個是
→ JustinIdiot: 未完全proven的新秀 價值差太多了...
→ JustinIdiot: 今年XB是有點失常 對預估應該會有平均以上的水準
推 alex710707: 時空背景不一樣，不看tool，直接看排名實在很腦
→ alex710707: 補充：打出前幾年小亨利成績
→ JustinIdiot: 看tool 小亨利的打擊+炮瓦當初的預期並沒有Bogaert
→ JustinIdiot: 好阿...最多就速度樂勝
→ JustinIdiot: 頂多Hanley贏一點打擊 Bogaert贏一點power這樣
推 seekforever: XB之前看過有40轟潛力 Hanley比他高是幾轟?
→ seekforever: 有根據拿出來參考 不然只丟一句話也蠻腦的
→ seekforever: XB目前守備看起來就是略低於平均 Hanley是最爛之一
→ seekforever: 人家在講當初 你拿前幾年Hanley成績比 有意義嗎?
→ JustinIdiot: XB上看40 這我還是第一次聽到...XXD
推 iverson0968: 衷心希望XB可以成為我們的當家SS!不然小亨利就去站3B
→ iverson0968: 吧～
→ JustinIdiot: 那是目前 但XB守備預期就是會有平均以上水準 Hanley
→ JustinIdiot: 也沒“最”爛這麼誇張...
→ JustinIdiot: XB upside 20~25吧 40是哪個球探說的...
推 maxspeed150: 我也頂多看到30+
→ maxspeed150: 基本上球探報告不可能寫什麼上探40啦
→ maxspeed150: 當年的Giancarlo或現在的Gallo都沒這種評價
→ maxspeed150: Kris Bryant也沒有
推 james54068: XB的新秀評價可能比較高，但是hanley一上來就展現出超
推 alex710707: 失敬，失敬XD
→ james54068: 越upside的實力，但是XB離upside還有多遠很難說
→ james54068: upside都要長的出來才有用
推 alex710707: 1Bryant我不知道，但確實有人上看40轟Gallo就是
推 seekforever: 我記成Baez了啦XD XB確實是30hr potential沒錯
→ JustinIdiot: Gallo和KB就算upside預測也都介於35～40
→ JustinIdiot: 真的不太可能有球探給upside超過40...
推 alex710707: 恩 我上一句用手機打很麻煩 沒補完 Gallo Power 80分,
→ alex710707: 天花板大概就是年年30轟,狀況好一點就40轟
推 alex710707: 某人就別再自圓其說了 XB天花板就25轟上下,還不到30,
→ alex710707: Baez也大概是這水準,砲稍微比XB高一點點而已,30轟是
→ alex710707: 砲瓦滿分80的評價