[轉錄][情報] Four-team trade in works

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標題[轉錄][情報] Four-team trade in works

時間Thu Aug 12 02:01:55 2010

※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1COjq4Yh ] 作者: mohicans (Last Of The Mohicans) 看板: NBA 標題: [情報] Four-team trade in works 時間: Thu Aug 12 01:25:19 2010 By Chad Ford ESPN.com Updated: August 11, 2010, 1:15 PM ET Four NBA teams are on the verge of a five-player trade, two league sources said. In the proposed deal, the Houston Rockets will send Trevor Ariza to the New Orleans Hornets. The Hornets will send Darren Collison and James Posey to the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers will send Troy Murphy to the New Jersey Nets. And the Nets will send Courtney Lee to the Rockets. According to the sources the Rockets, Hornets, Pacers and Nets are in advanced discussions on the deal and the principals involved are set. The teams were ironing out details, including Posey's trade kicker and possible cash payments. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5455472 ----- update Four NBA teams are on the verge of a five-player trade that will send Trevor Ariza to the New Orleans Hornets and Darren Collison to the Indiana Pacers, two league sources said. In the proposed deal, the Houston Rockets will send Ariza to the Hornets, who in turn will send Collison and James Posey to the Pacers. The Pacers will send Troy Murphy to the New Jersey Nets. And the Nets will send Courtney Lee to the Rockets. According to the sources the Rockets, Hornets, Pacers and Nets are in advanced discussions on the deal and the principals involved are set. The teams were ironing out details, including Posey's trade kicker and possible cash payments. The deal, if completed, could fulfill some long-term needs for the Hornets, Pacers and Nets, as well as provide needed salary relief for the Rockets. For the Hornets, while moving Collison leaves the team without a credible backup for Chris Paul, the addition of Ariza gives them a young, athletic wing entering his prime. The Hornets are hoping that the addition of Ariza quiets the complaints address Paul's concerns about the team's commitment winning by showing that they're willing to spend money to get better. Ariza signed a six year, $35 million dollar deal with the Rockets last summer. For the Pacers, landing Collison gives them the young starting point guard they've been looking for and adds another piece to a young core of players including Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert and promising rookies Paul George and Lance Stephenson. The Pacers did take on the last two years and $13 million of Posey's contract, but the deal also sliced another $4 million off the team's overall payroll. In Murphy, the Nets get the veteran big man that new coach Avery Johnson has been coveting. Murphy is also on the last year of his contract, which could make him an important trading chip for the Nets at the 2011 trade deadline. For the Rockets, aside from acquiring Lee, the move is largely a salary dump. This summer the Rockets spent a lot of cash signing Luis Scola, Kyle Lowry and Brad Miller to free agent contracts and their payroll ballooned to $81 million. Before the trade, the team was bracing for a $10 million-plus luxury tax hit. The deal would save them $28 million on the life of the contracts and $10 million this season, including luxury tax considerations. Chad Ford covers the NBA and NBA Draft for ESPN Insider. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)

推 chirssu :黃蜂這樣算虧吧...? 08/12 01:26

推 monmo :Lee去火箭換Ariza... !? 08/12 01:26

推 hillku :火箭這樣換的好處在...? 08/12 01:27

推 name80274 :籃網要墨菲那新選到的哪半 08/12 01:27

推 kb81 :Oh No Ariza Orz 08/12 01:27

推 keith2822 :溜馬收到Darren Collison就High了 08/12 01:28

推 pheather :拿Darren Collison的代價是幫忙吃James Posey的約 08/12 01:29

→ pheather :其實還不差(就溜馬迷的觀點而言) 08/12 01:29

推 benson :Posey剩兩年 Collison可以便宜用好幾年的新人頗爽 08/12 01:31

→ hit10116 :Lee比較年輕有潛力拔 08/12 01:33

推 frankmaki :不錯喔...整體上都有補到 08/12 01:35

推 KillLakers :黃蜂會拿選秀權吧不然CP3再出來鬧不就完了...... 08/12 01:35

→ s674 :雅莉莎被換走? 08/12 01:36

推 vanstar :借轉溜馬版,thx 08/12 01:45

推 ada1018 :阿莉莎換Lee不好嗎? Lee年輕便宜也夠準 08/12 01:45

※ vanstar:轉錄至看板 PACERS 08/12 01:46

→ ada1018 :話說Lee不會要浪人化了吧XD 他在魔術時我覺得他會是 08/12 01:46

→ ada1018 :明日之星耶球打得不錯長得又帥 08/12 01:47

推 hit10116 :年輕的肉體大家搶著要(誤 08/12 01:47

推 name80274 :結果Lee變成小馬丁替補越來越慘.... 08/12 01:47

推 larson :Martin挺容易受傷的,買保險很正常呀~ 08/12 01:50

推 clkdtm32 :Lee好慘... 08/12 01:51

推 Mcdyess :火箭應該是省錢考量吧.. 08/12 01:56

※ 編輯: mohicans 來自: 114.24.13.71 (08/12 01:58)

推 clkdtm32 :真搞不懂黃蜂在想什麼...快養起來了還把他丟掉 08/12 02:00

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推 jerryjojo34:這樣換除了省錢還有什麼好處嘛 08/12 02:03

→ barkleyc:out:Ariza in:C.Lee 08/12 02:03

→ jerryjojo34:Ariza應該筆Lee好用吧 08/12 02:03

→ barkleyc:之前SF擠了三隻:Battier, Ariza, Budinger..而SG:KM... 08/12 02:11

→ barkleyc:SF變成Battier+Budinger SG:K.Martin+C.Lee 08/12 02:12

→ barkleyc:我是還蠻喜歡Lee的不過也很想看Ariza搭配Yao... 08/12 02:12

→ barkleyc:不對每次都忘了Taylor的存在 XD 08/12 02:13

推 larson:省錢呀~今年火箭砸了一堆錢留住Lowry,Scola和搶Brad Miller 08/12 02:14

推 jerryjojo34:Lee是不錯但我總覺得我們很缺這種體能型的 08/12 02:15

→ barkleyc:這筆交易省了10M 另外Budinger也會有更多上場時間了 08/12 02:15

→ barkleyc:我以前一直都蠻看好C.Lee的耶XD 沒想到要來火箭了? 08/12 02:17

→ jerryjojo34:Taylor看他夏季聯賽的表現..恩...還是別期待他吧 08/12 02:17

推 larson:體能咖?Lee就是呀~雖然矮了點,但爆發力是有的 08/12 02:17

推 chuachuayeh:還不錯只是少了一個瑣有點可惜 08/12 02:20

推 jerryjojo34:恩..我的體能型是只只靠體能打球的哈 Lee技巧漫不錯的 08/12 02:21

→ jerryjojo34: 指 08/12 02:22

→ unmeinohito:李超棒的火箭迷不用覺得可惜. 08/12 02:23

→ barkleyc:Lee很會飛阿外線也比較準 08/12 02:23

推 small2th:聽說交易確定了....... 08/12 02:26

→ barkleyc:http://tinyurl.com/2e7ndjc C.Lee的Mix 08/12 02:27

→ barkleyc:哀哀感謝Ariza去年對火箭的貢獻囉...QQ 08/12 02:27

推 small2th:我都還沒看到Ariza配Yao耶 =.= 08/12 02:28

→ barkleyc:Taylor大概要跟JJ一起打包送走了=.= 08/12 02:31

推 small2th:Clutchfans目前對這交易評價還是一半一半 08/12 02:33

推 jerryjojo34:送走不知道要交易哪個位置的人來每個位置感覺都很滿. 08/12 02:33

推 small2th:至少目前知道布丁狗確定是SF的第一替補 C.Lee是SG替補 08/12 02:35

→ small2th:如果Kmart受傷，C.Lee可以馬上補上來 08/12 02:36

→ barkleyc:我是覺得現階段幫助不大啦...只是Lee可以期待一下 XD 08/12 02:37

推 unmeinohito:李算是及戰力了直接丟先發都不差 08/12 02:39

推 jerryjojo34:Lee是真的不錯只是用Ariza去換有點失望就是了 08/12 02:43

推 larson:Ariza的合約太長了,不處理掉未來能換到的價值說不定更低說~ 08/12 02:47

推 tamataco:不是吧...!? 我不喜歡這交易= = 08/12 02:52

推 tamataco:但還可以接受就是了 08/12 02:54

推 small2th:聽說C.Lee防守很不錯？有人可以證實一下嗎 XD 08/12 02:56

推 FUkobeCK:不喜歡+1 08/12 03:01

→ FUkobeCK:Ariza當初是用阿泰換來的耶... 08/12 03:01

推 tamataco:Ariza高3吋抄截能力小勝三分能力差不多 08/12 03:03

→ tamataco:Ariza不是用阿泰換的啦@@ 08/12 03:03

→ skyust:不是用換的吧...Ariza當時是自由球員 08/12 03:03

→ tamataco:但Lee的中距離應該比Ariza好很多靈活度應該也好一些 08/12 03:04

→ tamataco:比較可惜Ariza的分球能力不過幫KM找個備胎也是好的 08/12 03:06

推 small2th:Ariza就是比較全能，Lee就加強版的Wafer，板凳進攻能量 08/12 03:10

推 tamataco:加強版Wafer...這比喻好怪 Lee應該不是暴徒型球員 08/12 03:13

推 larson:Lee當年在魔術還是新人的時候好像有被派去守LBJ?! 08/12 03:13

→ tamataco:2011 team option 這一點是也滿有吸引力的啦 08/12 03:14

推 hihi29:我對他閃過LBJ的奪命追魂鍋印象深刻XD 08/12 03:14

→ tamataco:沒守住啊XD 先不用太期待他的防守吧 08/12 03:14

推 small2th:他至少還有兩年的便宜約可用，Ariza去搭配CP3令人期待～ 08/12 03:15

推 small2th:不會太期待，我只希望不要太差，不錯就夠了 XD 08/12 03:16

→ lucifer1C1:睡不著想說上線看一下就來個大消息..... 08/12 03:37

→ lucifer1C1:Morey的交易每次來的都有夠突然的.... 08/12 03:38

→ lucifer1C1:不過這要交易好處是Battier交易可能性降低.... 08/12 03:39

→ lucifer1C1:這點我倒是很高興... 08/12 03:39

→ lucifer1C1:對C.Lee的印象還停在魔術時期.交易到籃網就沒注意了... 08/12 03:40

推 lucifer1C1:這筆交易給我的感覺很像Alston換Lowry的那筆交易.... 08/12 03:47

推 small2th:我看到當下也覺得很像skip和Lowry那筆，當時也讓AB上位 08/12 03:59

推 RaferAlston:嗯哼？ 08/12 04:00

→ small2th:現在少了Ariza的肉體，布丁狗大概可以多上5分鐘.. 08/12 04:00

推 Budinger:Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa~!!!!!!!!!! 08/12 04:01

→ lucifer1C1:Ariza的約真的長了些...現在拋掉也不算太差... 08/12 04:05

→ lucifer1C1:我覺得Ariza的發展性大概到了盡頭... 08/12 04:07

→ lucifer1C1:Morey大概認為Ariza已經不會在進步現在是最高點... 08/12 04:07

→ lucifer1C1:所以加緊把Ariza給交易掉 08/12 04:08

→ lucifer1C1:以實力的觀點來看這筆交易火箭是虧的.... 08/12 04:10

→ lucifer1C1:但在發展淺力跟薪資彈性上火箭可是大賺了一筆..... 08/12 04:11

→ lucifer1C1:期待C.Lee能有驚人的進步..及感謝Ariza一年的貢獻... 08/12 04:12

推 outdance:我覺得虧！ARIZA很好啊但小氣老板想省錢唉 08/12 06:12

推 zard1983:湖迷最愛的ariza > <...不過lee還會持續進步沒虧拉 08/12 06:19

推 y1027330:LEE很棒的前年新人年就打很棒了中距離頗準 08/12 06:44

→ y1027330:三分應該比Ariza好一點防守可能會比較差一點 08/12 06:44

→ y1027330:但LEE跟Ariza很像是同樣年紀.. 08/12 06:45

推 temma:哇...默默的就來一筆四隊交易可惜沒看到阿里莎和姚姚搭配+1 08/12 08:31

→ temma:不過也滿高興布丁狗更有表現的空間+1 心情真複雜XD 08/12 08:32

推 jstar100:非常好~Ariza上季的表現真的很難看出太超值的身價 08/12 08:55

推 aaarcane:ariza防守體能比較好，lee在魔術打法有點像活塞那隻Ham@@ 08/12 09:00

推 withlove32:本來很期待ARIZA和YAO的..... 08/12 09:10

推 x22754513:Ariza防守強又有體能火箭本來就少體能好的吧 08/12 09:38

→ x22754513:Jeffries比較難換吧 08/12 09:39

推 chrislux:不大理解 08/12 09:48

→ chrislux:主要對Lee不理解，只能說是薪資吧 08/12 09:48

推 scsa3:一堆人說ARIZA約長不知道在長什麼明明才中產左右超級超值 08/12 10:13

推 DarylMorey:T.Ariza│6,322,320 6,790,640 7,258,960 7,727,280 08/12 10:15

推 scsa3:而且約到期時也才30左右當打之年 08/12 10:54

推 tracy2817038:Lee有獨自持球進攻能力運球也比較好可是防守比不上 08/12 11:00

→ tracy2817038:Lee和魔獸搭配過對具有強大內線牽制力的打法較熟悉 08/12 11:03

推 JimmyBlue:明年同時有AB Yao Bd2要換約，不先籌錢怎麼行... 08/12 11:03

推 eliczone:Lee很棒啊沒什麼不好 08/12 11:04

推 tracy2817038:Lee長的還真像吹牛老爹 08/12 11:07

推 ilovetmac175:大家放心啦 Lee可是個被低估的球員防守也不錯 08/12 11:11

推 lucifer1C1:Ariza沒人說他貴..但他的進步的空間已經不大了... 08/12 11:12

→ ilovetmac175:別看他小小一隻其實還蠻硬的呢 08/12 11:12

推 allenyao22:這養配很明確阿我覺得還不錯 08/12 11:13

→ lucifer1C1:用4年平均7M留一個沒有成長且非必要可替代的資產... 08/12 11:15

→ lucifer1C1:這對Morey來說是難以忍受的事.. 08/12 11:15

→ barkleyc:...Ariza的約哪裡"超級超值"了..? 08/12 11:33

推 king12272:我是覺得還滿賺的去年ariza幾乎沒有進步吧約又貴又長 08/12 11:37

→ king12272:雖然年輕但是進步空間太有限現在丟剛剛好而且沒進步 08/12 11:38

→ king12272:的話 8d2還比較好用 lee算是不錯的替補畢竟2號只有KM 08/12 11:39

→ king12272:大概也是要主力培養布丁狗吧真的很不錯 08/12 11:40

推 DDMO:有點驚訝....主要還是因為Ariza到底跟姚搭不搭都還沒確認.... 08/12 12:19

→ zaq1xsw2121:不喜歡Ariza的賭博式抄截如果配上補防快的內線那還好 08/12 12:36

→ zaq1xsw2121:(JJ?) 但YAO補防慢因此被買到yao的犯規就超傷 08/12 12:37

推 lifekiller:我喜歡這交易! Lee在魔術打冠軍那年我就一直在注意他了 08/12 13:28

→ lifekiller:Ariza老實說去年表現讓人有點失望，不如好好養布丁狗! 08/12 13:29

推 KeySabre:Ariza的成長沒有達到期待能夠交易時當然不會留住... 08/12 13:30

→ KeySabre:布丁狗時間增加 + KM有好替補 + 省錢不錯啊.. 08/12 13:31

推 orange78:我覺得這步棋很不錯耶~~Lee很不錯阿!!有裡有外 08/12 23:09

→ orange78:只是可惜的是我相信YAO回來ARIZA表現應該會回復才對 08/12 23:10

→ orange78:今年火箭補強算很不錯了 08/12 23:11

→ orange78:重點還是YAO要健康 08/12 23:11