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Rockets Luncheon with Daryl Morey http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=239206 以上原文 & 以下參考翻譯 莫雷與新賽季季票購買者的30分鐘交流筆錄 http://bbs.hupu.com/5699294.html ============================================================================= I recently purchased some season tickets for next season and was invited to a luncheon at Toyota Center where Morey talked for about 30 minutes. To be honest, he didn't share much info at all but I'm sure some of you are like me and will take any Rockets news you can get at this time. 我最近買了一些下賽季的季票, 並且被邀請到豐田中心的午餐會上跟莫雷交流了大約30分鐘。 坦白講,整個過程中他並沒有分享太多的訊息, 但我相信某些球迷也會像我這樣珍惜此次機會以吸取更多的新聞。 Daryl Morey: Most of the team will be back next year. We were the youngest team in the league. Just by adding one year under their belt, teams like ours will add 4 to 5 wins. So where we want to be trying to get to next year is that 50 win range. If we can add one of these significant free agents we feel like that could potentially put us in the championship contention. The models out there that we are similar to that we are trying to accomplish are OKC which was similar to us, similar age, similar to us in everything. Three years ago they lost 4-2 to the top seed just like us and then they progressed very well from there. The other team that has really done things the right way is Miami. First when they only had Wade, who we think is equivilant talent to Harden at a similar age, they planned their cap really well like what we are doing right now and they were able to add Shaq. Then they were very careful with their cap again when they added the players they added this time(Lebron & Bosh obviously). So that's sort of the plan, to go after some of the bigger free agents this year and if we don't get them then carefully manage the cap to get us to the 50 win range with most of the players we have now and keep our flexibility. We feel we took a big leap forward this season but we still feel we need to take another big leap forward whether that is through trade or free agency. 莫雷: 明年所有的球隊都會回到同個起跑點。而我們是聯盟中最年輕的隊伍。 靠這過去一年的經驗值,像我們這樣的球隊會再多添得4~5場的勝利。 所以明年我們的目標是至少50勝。 如果我們能再增加一條自由市場上的大魚,就我們自己的感覺而言, 我們將會變成冠軍的潛在競爭者之一。 我們正在努力朝雷霆隊的方向前進,視為模板。 有著類似的平均年齡,其它方面也都很類似。 3年前,他們一樣也是2比4輸給了西部第一種子,至那時起逐步地進步與提升。 另外一支也走在正確的方向的球隊是熱火。 一開始的時候,他們只有一個就我們感覺跟Harden天賦高度類似也年齡相仿的Wade, 然後他們就像我們正在做的一樣,充分地利用他們的薪金空間, 去網羅他們的大個子—SHAQ。 而他們又繼續非常小心地處理他們的薪資空間,並又網羅了其他球員。 (可能意指: LeBron James & Chris Bosh。) 所以那大概就是我們的計劃:去釣更大的魚,如果釣不到他們, 那麼我們就必須小心地處理我們的薪資空間,以便依靠現有的球員員爭取到50勝之外, 還要能夠保持薪資空間的靈活性。 我們本季有如已經往前邁進了一大步,但我們依然仍需要再往前邁進了一大步。 無論是透過交易,還是去網羅自由市場上的大魚。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Disclaimer: I'm taking some liberties with my summary of the Q&A to save time) 免責聲明: 我有權利用我自己的語言來簡化問答過程以便節省時間。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: The eastern conference is much easier than the western conference and how does that get evened out? 東區分組球隊比起西區分組球隊來的更容易應付,要怎樣才能夠取得平衡呢? A: It's not changing. Really you have to look at the owners and the western conference has better owners for the most part so the teams are better. We just have to keep fighting. Our goal is to win the title and even though our path will be harder it's still the same goal. It is what it is. 這是不會改變的。 你真的必須看看出錢的人是誰,西區的老闆大多比東區的老闆來的更好, 所以他們的隊伍也會更好些。 我們只能繼續戰鬥。我們的目標就是奪取總冠軍!即使那道路更難走。 但那是不變的目標,而事實就是如此。 Q: You are known for being a different type of GM but who are the people you modelled you management style after? 你是球隊總管界裡著名的異類,而誰又是你學習效法的模板呢? A: Primarily I did a lot of reading. Probably reading Bill James and his ideas of how to build a team before he was hired by the Red Sox. Danny Ainge was a forward thinking, smart ,former player that I took a lot from. And then Carol Dawson for one year. The owner Les Alexander is the unsung hero that does a lot behind the scenes. He consistently takes gambles on us so we can accomplish big things. 首先,我必須說我做了很多功課。 特別是閱讀紅襪隊經理Bill James,關於他如何建立一支球隊的理念。 Danny Ainge是個具有前衛思考、聰明的前NBA職業球員,我也從他身上學習到很多。 然後我還有與Carol Dawson共事一年並且向他學習。 而老闆Les Alexander則是個在幕後做了很多事的無名英雄。 他持續地在我們身上押注,所以我們才能有一番成就。 Q: Dwight Howard? A: I can't answer that. Let's just say we are going after 2 of the biggest free agents(obviously Dwight & CP3) and not being as agressive with the others. 關於這點我無可奉告。 我只能說我們在追求著市場上其中兩條最大的魚(顯然是Howard和CP3) 但對於其他人選,我們就不那麼積極了。 Q: Could it be a package deal? 會不會有有交易包裹呢? A: There are some sort of very unlikely scenarios where that could happen. But it's very unlikey because like 20 things would have to align for that to happen. It would be very interesting but I have to live in the world of getting things done and that is very unlikely to get done. 是有一些類似像這樣,但看似不太可行的方案。 因為那就像必須同時完成其他20個條件去促成它發生。 如果真的發生了,那會是非常有趣的。 但我必須活在殘酷地現實生活中,而現實上,那是非常不可能去完成的。 Q: Do you feel this team is one player or one draft pick away from being a championship contender? 你覺得這支球隊,離爭冠是否只有一個球員或一個選秀簽的距離? A: Every team is one piece away and his name is LeBron. But if it were one of the 2 free agents that I can't name it would be significant. Draft picks are unlikely bring help to us unless maybe it's a rotation player but hopefully we won't have good picks. We have to do like the Spurs who get guys like Gary Neal or players like that. We need 1 more all star level player. The likliest ways of that happening are first free agency, then current player improvement, and least likely is through our draft pick. 每支球隊都只缺一個人,而那個人叫LeBron。 但如果是那2條我無可奉告的大魚之中的一條,那顯然是大有可能的。 選秀權很難立即幫助我們提升,除非那是一個可以立即進入輪換的即戰力球員, 但希望我們不會成績爛到去取得樂透簽。 我們必須向馬刺學習,去得到像Gary Neal(落選新秀)或類似他這樣的球員。 我們需要另一名全明星等級的球員。 而最有可能去獲得明星級球員的辦法,首先是自由市場,其次是等現有球員的成長, 機會最小的就是透過我們的選秀權。 Q: Thoughts on Thomas Robinson? 對於T-ROB的看法 A: He is actually here today(at the Toyota Center) working out. We have high hopes for him. We normally wouldn't have the opportunity to get a guy that was 5th in the draft and we are still high on him. He came in a tough spot of the season. This year we could have Dmo, Jones, TRob, Greg Smith, and potential the Turkish player all fight it out to see who's best. 其實他今天有在這裡(豐田中心內)訓練。我們對他期望很高。 一般情況我們是沒有機會得到一個第5號順位的新秀的, 我們在他身上依舊抱有很高的期待。 他在賽季中期加入球隊,這對他來說有點困難。 今年我們有Dmo, Jones, TRob, Greg Smith,和潛在的土耳其球員去競爭去較勁, 往後再讓我們看看誰是最好的。 Q: Will F.Garcia be back? A: We had to be careful with the cap so we had to let him go. Later on in free agency we would like to bring him back but it takes 2 sides to agree. 我們必須小心地處理我們的空間問題,所以,他必須離開。 但過些時候,我們願意在自由市場將他簽回來,但也要得到他的同意才行。 Q: What's plan B if you can't get Dwight or CP3? 當得不到HOWARD或CP3的配套措施 A: We would like to keep our flexibility and be open to other trades. By the way, I want you all to know it's safe to buy Harden jerseys or most all of our jerseys even though that has not been the case in the last few years. But our goal is to go for the big dogs in free agency and then be smart if that doesn't work to keep flexibility. 我們寧可保持我們空間的靈活性,然後尋求其它的交易。 順便一提,我想你們都清楚買哈登的球衣最保險,又或者選擇那些年我們追過的球衣, 即便過去幾年的情況有所不同。 但我們的目標是去釣大魚,即使釣不到,我們也會保持空間的靈活性。 Q: With guys like Aldridge and Love being free agents the following summer is there any reluctance to spend this summer? 隨著像Aldridge和Love在明夏將成為自由球員, 妳們是否會因此不願意在今夏浪費薪資空間? A: Well that is an option. However, both of the guys you mentioned are not free agents the following year but that doesn't mean they won't come available because Harden wasn't a free agent either. Anyways, it's so hard to get an elite player so we can't pass up a big free agent in hopes of someone in another year. We have Harden all the way til he is 28 years old and we don't want to waste his prime. Look at the Blazers they were set up with Roy, Aldridge, and Oden so we don't want to take anything for granted. 好,那也是個選擇。無論如何,你介紹的這兩個傢伙明年都不是自由球員, 但那也並不意味著我們就得不到他們,因為哈登也不曾是個自由球員。 不管怎樣,得到一名頂級球星是很難的,所以我們不能輕易忽視來年的大魚。 哈登會伴隨我們一起走到28歲,我們可不想浪費他的巔峰期。 你看看拓荒者隊,過去他們把基石建立在Roy,Aldridge和Oden等人身上, 所以我們不想把話說得太死。 Q: What is team's biggest term to improve? 球隊最需要改善的最大問題點? A: We don't like locking into a position because that gets you in trouble. The biggest need is an all star regardless of position except for SG where we have Harden. But our weakest spot is obviously PF but we don't want to bring in an average guy that stunts the growth of the young guys and hurts our flexibility. 我們不想限制會去得到在球場哪一個位置上的球員,因為那會帶來麻煩。 無論哪個位置,只要不是坐擁哈登的得分後衛,只要是全明星的,能來就來。 但我們最弱的位置顯然就是大前鋒,但我們不想帶來一個平庸的傢伙, 那遏制了我們的成長,並且傷害了我們的薪資空間。 Q: What do you think of how Patrick Beverly took over for Lin?       對於Patrick Beverly取代Lin的想法? A: Beverly played very well. I hate how Lin's season ended with the muscle pull. Lin had an unbelievable season. Unfortunately most people only remember the beginning and the end. At the start of the season jeremy struggled coming back from knee injury and ended with the chest injury but we are happy with how he played. Harden won the most games for Rockets, then Asik, and then Jeremy and CP were tied for third. So Patrick is going to be a nice rotation player for us at least the next 3 years with a very high ceiling. But about Jeremy, not to be defensive, but we were not expecting him to have 30 points a game 10 assists like he did in New York so we are happy with how he played. Beverly是打得相當不錯。我也討厭Lin的以肌肉拉傷結束球季。 但Lin已經表現出令人難以置信的一個賽季,不幸的是絕大多數的人只記住了開頭和結尾。 賽季初Lin的掙扎全因膝蓋手術的困擾,而他的賽季又以胸肌拉傷結束, 但我們對他的表現感到滿意。 Harden替火箭贏得了最多的比賽,然後是Asik,再來就是平分秋色的Lin和CP。 所以我說潛力非常高的Beverly將會是我們未來三年內的一個很棒的輪換球員。 但關於LIN,並非為其辯護,但我們從未期望他能給予我們單場30分10次助攻的表現 ——就像他在紐約時那樣,所以我們對他的表現感到滿意。 Q: Are other GMs afraid to deal with the Rockets? 其他球隊的總管們,是不是怕了跟火箭交易? A: No. Fortunetly, the egos in the NBA are really big so they are all really confident in what they do and they should be since most have accomplished more than the Rockets. 不。幸虧NBA裡面,人人都自信滿滿, 所以他們對自己的所作所為都真的很自信, 而且他們也應該相信自我,因為他們都比火箭收穫得多。 Q: How are you using the SportsView data that collects data on player movement on the court? 你是如何使用SportsView的數據庫,去蒐集場上球員的表現? A: We have overhead cameras along with 10 to 12 others teams. It's a lot of data and it can be used to analyze a lot of different things but we'd like to keep that pretty quiet. Everything you can think of we can track so it is a great advantage. 我們在10~12支其它的隊伍球場上設置了各種攝錄器材。 那是一大堆的數據呀,那可以用來分析不少的東西,但那是商業機密。 所有你能想像得到的東西我們都可以追蹤與研究,所以那是個很大的優勢。 Q: How attractive is Houston to free agents? 休城對自由球員的吸引力? A: I always thought Houston was a great destination. Between the state income tax, our presence in China, and our players are guys other players want to play with. You could argue that only 1 to 4 destinations in the NBA are argueably better. 我總認為休城是一個理想的目的地。 這在於州稅、我們在中國的影響力、以及我們這些球員之間良好的團隊氛圍。 NBA中只有1到4個地方比休城還要理想。 Q: Thoughts on Royce White? 對小白的看法? A: We are hopefully but he is dealing with a lot issues off the court. It was nice to see him on the court during the 2nd half of season. 我們對他還有希望,但他在場下的麻煩實在太多了。 在下半季能看到他回來打球實在太棒了。 Q: What are long term plans for Chandler Parsons? 關於CP的長期計畫打算? A: (sarcastically) It's shocking that the first female that asks a question asks me about Chandler. haha. But he is our starting 3 and he is critical to our future. I would extend his contract now if they would let me but the NBA rules say I can't. He has at least 2 more years here and hopefully many more. (語帶諷刺地)太意外了,第一個問我問題的女生問的竟然是關於CP的問題! 哈哈!但他是我們的先發3號位球員, 他對於我們的未來很關鍵。如果我可以延長他的合同,我現在就想這麼幹, 但NBA的規定是要我再等一等。他至少還有2年會留在這,希望會比這更久。 Q: Is Sergio Llull going to come over? Sergio Llull會加入球隊? A:It was great that Les Alexander gave us money to buy 2nd round pick a few years back to get him. Now the rules have changed so teams can't do that as much. He is #1 guard in Spain. Was MVP in one of the Euro cups recently. He is for sure an NBA ready guy. He won't come over this offseason but maybe the following one as his buyout gets lower. Now with Lin and Beverly it would be unlikely he'd play right now anyway. It's kind of admirable, he really wants to win a title in Europe and he was close this year. Before he comes over, he sort of wants to win big for Real Madrid's team because they brought him along this far in his career. 慷慨的老闆幾年前給我們錢去買了選中他的二輪簽。 但現在規矩改了,所以球隊無法再這麼幹。 而他是西班牙的第一後衛,是近期其中一屆歐洲杯的MVP。 他肯定能立即適應NBA,並且是即戰力。 這個休賽期他不會來,但也許下一次當他的買斷價格降低後,我們會考慮。 當下我們有LIN又有PB,所以他現在來這打球的機會不大。 他值得我們尊敬,他真的想在歐洲奪一次冠軍,他今年幾乎就做到了。 在他到來之前,他大概想替皇馬奪得一堆的榮譽, 因為是皇馬把他的職業生涯帶到如此高的地步的。 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think Daryl didn't say anything that he wouldn't mind all of us knowing so I feel okay sharing this with you all. Again, there is no breaking news in here but it took a long time to type it up so hope you guys enjoy reading it. 後記:我想莫雷並沒有真的說些什麼,所以他不會介意我跟大家分享這些。 再聲明,這裡頭沒有什麼爆炸性的資訊, 但這花了我很長時間去整理與輸入,希望大夥享受閱讀。 -- ★Thanks for the ride, Houston Rockets 12-13★ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.118.55.206 ※ 編輯: KenRock 來自: 122.118.55.206 (05/30 23:03)
fireunicorn:原來還有一個後衛在海外阿~ 05/30 23:13
ninaman:謝謝K大轉錄翻譯!!幹!!裡面笑點和弦外之音好多... 05/30 23:32
nenpow:萬分感謝!! 05/30 23:47
KenRock:謝謝Shinn816吧,QQ 05/30 23:48
jc0209:Llull就算來了 上場時間也會壓縮很多 不如繼續在歐洲等機會 05/30 23:54
jc0209:看Morey這個暑假怎麼運作了 今年明年是組奪冠陣容最好時機 05/30 23:58
magamanzero:其實這些如果是真話 那它透露出不少很多有用的東西 05/31 00:02
iswearxxx:感謝同意:) 05/31 00:03
iswearxxx:轉錄至看板 Jeremy_Lin 05/31 00:04
magamanzero:例如 沒有得到CP3或DH PF這個位置很可能還是新人輪替 05/31 00:04
magamanzero:除非它能帶來只有兩年約 但是不平庸的傢伙!? 05/31 00:05
KenRock:我看莫胖說法前後都蠻一致的 05/31 00:07
shinn816:辛苦了 謝謝翻譯 05/31 00:24
beran:這篇很棒 很完整 05/31 00:36
Queenie7:感謝K大辛苦翻譯,從之前的發言一直看下來,Morey的態度 05/31 00:38
Queenie7:真的從沒變過....感謝詳細的翻譯!! 05/31 00:38
ibise:我都忘有Llull了,還有,對於小白,Morey講的是不是場面話? 05/31 00:47
patrickleeee:感謝翻譯 05/31 00:47
ibise:我還頗希望小白能夠克服自己的場下問題,只是恐怕很難吧... 05/31 01:05
ghghfftjack:感謝翻譯 05/31 01:05
ghghfftjack:小白在聯盟打得其實還算過得去 05/31 01:06
ghghfftjack:雖然不算挺好但應該還是有潛力 05/31 01:06
ghghfftjack:話說回來 德州免稅的緣故....有可能用比較低的薪資 05/31 01:09
ghghfftjack:簽到DH嗎? DH的薪水相對之下也不會比較少 05/31 01:09
ghghfftjack:球隊空間也會比較多 05/31 01:09
patrickleeee:還是得看DH爽不爽才知道 05/31 01:43
Aggro:他如果真的肯拿少一點 我就相信他真的想要冠軍:Q 05/31 02:18
jajaye:之前傳的Cousins Millsap Al 大概都不會是莫雷想要的吧 05/31 07:18
AssetDebt:請問"潛在的土耳其球員"是指誰阿?? 05/31 08:35
AssetDebt:是指Asik還是另有其人? ? 05/31 08:35
KenRock:http://0rz.tw/gHnkP 應該是這位 05/31 08:45
shinn816:不是Asik 應該是 Furkan Aldemir 05/31 08:56
xajx:"其他人是不是都怕了跟火箭交易" 這問題和答案都很有趣XDDD 05/31 09:06
darlenechen:我很好奇如果CP3來了球權要怎麼分配? 05/31 09:07
jc0209:之前說Aldemir下一季會出現在名單內 不知道是不是真的 05/31 09:12
peterwu4:路過推一個,看起來林書豪下個球季還蠻安全的XD 呵~ 05/31 11:38
KenRock:除非CP3來。。 05/31 11:39
neoage:Millsap和Al看來都不是莫雷的首要目標 還是老話 抓DH 05/31 11:53
jc0209:跟當初追DH的陣容比起來現在好太多了 有機會當然先收伏DH 05/31 11:57
kendiablo:CP3想也知道不會來,就算真的來了,請鬍子轉型成WADE XD.. 05/31 12:06
neoage:CP3不會來+1 跟DH不一樣 在快艇待那麼快樂又有話語權又是 05/31 12:11
neoage:球隊老大 根本沒有理由不拿5年合約來火箭拿4年 05/31 12:12
jc0209:他有說待在那快樂嗎... 05/31 12:19
shinn816:拿到DH後 用Asik+xxx去弄來 J.Smith 比較現實吧 05/31 12:26
KenRock:Josh不是UFA嗎? 05/31 12:32
jc0209:嗯啊 所以難講~ 話說Smith中距離是不太穩嗎? 05/31 12:35
shinn816:如果他不堅持要求頂薪的話 可能機會不小 05/31 12:40
shinn816:可以跟老鷹商量先簽後換 05/31 12:44
and1hotsauce:先簽後換用Asi+XXX弄來Josh Josh+DH組麻吉連線 05/31 12:52
and1hotsauce:希望哈登能說服Josh降薪來火箭合體組巨頭 05/31 12:53
ts0821:比起簽鷹王..我比較推簽阿拓的JJ.H + 簽回老賈.. 05/31 12:55
and1hotsauce:JJ H的中距和防守怎樣 如果不錯確實可以考慮 順便簽 05/31 12:57
and1hotsauce:回老賈增加板凳深度^^ 05/31 12:57
and1hotsauce:T-Rob交易出去順便半買半送小白吧 看能不能換回首輪 05/31 13:04
and1hotsauce:籤 哈 05/31 13:05
jc0209:如果Josh真的會來 DH也應該降一點吧... 不然薪資太緊 05/31 13:06
jc0209:怎麼你在總板說次輪 在這說首輪 05/31 13:08
kendiablo:JJ防守很慘,不過考量到今年他打的是C,對他有點不公平 05/31 13:09
kendiablo:跳投有5成,但是樣本有點少,雖然他數據上有兩雙,但是總 05/31 13:10
kendiablo:簽兩雙的價格來火箭打大後鋒,數據大概會掉到7分5板之類 05/31 13:11
kendiablo:如果是這樣的發揮那就沒必要花大錢買,不如補板凳或者超 05/31 13:12
kendiablo:即第六人,比較不會有體系適應問題 05/31 13:13
and1hotsauce:抱歉 打錯了 想一想 T-Rob好歹是首輪第5就算再貼個 05/31 13:16
and1hotsauce:小白也不至於換到次輪...如果DH和Josh都要來火箭 05/31 13:16
and1hotsauce:也許他們好交情會願意降薪喔 05/31 13:16
and1hotsauce:不過要先確定DH要來才有搞頭 05/31 13:17
chenlansue:Morey搶不到DH CP應該就不會搶一些B咖 等明年FA吧 05/31 13:25
black2453:Morey對Josh也很有興趣呀 前提是他不拿頂薪... 05/31 14:01
thanos:果然跟版上的大家預測的一樣 火箭先丟T-Rob清空間準備搶DH 05/31 14:21
thanos:接下來小白和D-MO危險了? 05/31 14:21
jc0209:希望這兩隻能留著... 05/31 14:25
neoage:所以火箭的A計畫就是先清空間搶DH 搶到以後再把Asik打包換 05/31 14:27
neoage:Josh? B計畫搶不到DH的話 直接簽Josh或把希望放在未來選秀? 05/31 14:28
qoomilk:Josh接近15M Asik8M 認真的嗎...湊完板凳7M然後薪資卡死 05/31 14:32
qoomilk:沒板凳之後 先發四人DH+Josh+哈登+Lin接近60M 未來高富帥 05/31 14:32
qoomilk:也要接近10M,然後沒板凳....這樣會比較好嗎? 05/31 14:34
qoomilk:現在光要湊出DH頂薪清板凳約4M出來 還要Asik+硬擠6~7M 05/31 14:37
black2453:不覺得Morey會硬湊三王耶 湊失敗會不上不下很多年 05/31 14:40
thanos:但我還是搞不太懂 莫雷把DH簽過來 這樣阿西跟DH位置就重複 05/31 14:42
thanos:如果要把阿西丟出去換個PF進來 市場上又沒什麼相對好的PF 05/31 14:43
qoomilk:Josh今年打的真的沒很好 另外DH+Josh這是要被駭客駭到死吧 05/31 14:43
thanos:雖然JJ便宜 不過跟阿西的防守還是差多 丟出去換感覺是火箭 05/31 14:43
qoomilk:目前薪水最符合 又還不錯且年輕的就JJ阿 05/31 14:44
thanos:吃虧 目前還想不到值得丟阿西去換的PF Al就不用說了 雖然 05/31 14:44
thanos:很棒 不過我不覺得爵士會想要阿西 05/31 14:44
qoomilk:Asik籃下讓給DH後,難道要他去高位投外線?還是8M當板凳... 05/31 14:45
thanos:丟了阿西覺得換不到什麼PF 但自留又跟DH相衝 05/31 14:45
thanos:阿西現在有點像雞肋 05/31 14:46
qoomilk:Asik現在不丟 先少磨合機會一年 接著Asik數據會被DH壓更低 05/31 14:46
thanos:是非丟不可...但問題就感覺換不到相對等級的PF... 05/31 14:46
qoomilk:今年DH會來 就快把先發板凳組好快磨合了 時間就2~4年衝冠 05/31 14:47
thanos:如果爵士要阿西的話 一定果斷丟阿西換AL 05/31 14:47
qoomilk:所謂相對的PF是指AGG這種等級嗎 05/31 14:47
qoomilk:爵士不會要Asik 他們會放米爺留AL 然後AL也是打低位跟DH衝 05/31 14:48
thanos:不用到那麼高 但至少攻防都要不錯 Al+DH是最棒的組合 05/31 14:48
thanos:完全互補XD 05/31 14:48
qoomilk:今年最好的貨就是Josh 但是實在太貴了... 05/31 14:48
thanos:唉 所以才說可惜 換不到Al換米爺就沒意思了 05/31 14:49
qoomilk:AL哪裡互補.....完全相衝吧 你要DH去高位還是AL去高位 05/31 14:49
thanos:我覺得換米爺不如換JJ算了 把錢拿去補板凳還比較好 05/31 14:49
jc0209:結果換Cousins來 囧 05/31 14:50
thanos:Al有中距啊 PF不就是最好找個有中距的 05/31 14:50
qoomilk:所以我才說拿JJ+板凳比較好了 05/31 14:50
thanos:這樣空間可以拉比較大 哈登會比較好切啊 05/31 14:50
thanos:算來算去 可能就只能選JJ+板凳這包了 05/31 14:51
qoomilk:如果只要中距離 D-MO三分可以拉更大... 05/31 14:51
qoomilk:我是覺得會擋拆的比較實在 幫哈登和Lin小組配合 05/31 14:52
thanos:D-MO防守比Al更破 DH可能會補防到死 囧 05/31 14:52
qoomilk:DH戰術也可以把板凳三分群擺上來印塞澳 05/31 14:52
qoomilk:AL防守也沒有很好.... 05/31 14:52
thanos:Al防守沒到很好 但至少比D-MO好多了 至少還是個肌肉棒子 05/31 14:53
qoomilk:覺得嘎受已經是借鏡了 嘎受也有中距離 但不是想的這麼簡單 05/31 14:53
thanos:D-MO要練壯一點啊 對抗性真的太差了 05/31 14:54
thanos:@qoomilk大 你覺得DH來火箭機會大不大? 05/31 14:55
qoomilk:簽AL只為了他中距離+普防守 封鎖他中距離...反正爵士不放 05/31 14:56
qoomilk:非常大....大到我之前就有說過 05/31 14:56
thanos:真的很怕 空間都清出來了 結果又說不來了 Scola白特赦了 05/31 14:56
qoomilk:14242 我之前就有說了 最好人選就是JJ 05/31 14:57
qoomilk:Scola也沒有白特赦 至少今年陣容整個換新+年輕阿 05/31 14:57
thanos:DH多賞點臉 如果真的加盟火箭 我就買塊2K14來玩 XD 05/31 14:58
thanos:但我覺得Scola特赦還滿可惜的 感覺好像把低位高手白白送給 05/31 14:58
thanos:太陽 囧 05/31 14:58
jc0209:不過這樣年輕PF的時間會被壓縮很多... 05/31 15:00
black2453:表弟進攻超全面好嗎 問題只在脾氣差+愛投中距離 05/31 15:01
qoomilk:Scola年紀也不小 當時雖然覺得很幹 但有哈登等核心覺得讚 05/31 15:01
jc0209:如果沒搶到 Morey會騰出空間等明年的自由球員 05/31 15:01
treerivers:表弟算了吧 我怕他來會破壞休息室氣氛 DH雖然名聲臭 05/31 15:02
treerivers:不過那也只是因為他猶豫不決讓人反胃 其實他人還滿好 05/31 15:02
treerivers:相處的 05/31 15:02
qoomilk:國王真的要放表弟應該是要樂透簽 而Asik他們看不上眼 05/31 15:02
thanos:表弟強是強 不過他的態度... 05/31 15:03
black2453:不過我不覺得國王會放走表弟&TE 05/31 15:06
qoomilk:國王不會丟的 就算腦殘丟也是跟騎士換狀元簽...他還新人約 05/31 15:07
qoomilk:我到覺得可以想想板凳該補誰了 05/31 15:07
black2453:今年的狀元籤跟炸彈一樣,前幾順位的天份都差不多 05/31 15:08
black2453:除非怕被攔胡,騎士要丟也要費飯心思 05/31 15:09
jc0209:替補可能就要看剩下多少空間吧 05/31 15:10
cpla1017:話先別說太滿 等搶到DH再來思考補強還不遲 火箭也不是穩 05/31 15:11
cpla1017:操勝算 DH搞不好來個回馬槍 看在錢和市場的份上還是留在 05/31 15:12
cpla1017:湖人好了到時候就囧了 05/31 15:12
jc0209:錢的話不是說前4年合約德州球隊比較有優勢嗎 05/31 15:13
cpla1017:根據他過往的模式來看 不是沒有這種可能的 05/31 15:13
qoomilk:無論是錢還是球隊未來 都是火箭比較有利 05/31 15:13
qoomilk:4年後DH還是可以簽最後大約 這四年已經比湖人多8M薪水了 05/31 15:14
cpla1017:就算德州免稅 還是留在LA錢多啊 多一年3000萬耶 免稅了不 05/31 15:14
cpla1017:起給你800萬好了 還是樂勝2100萬 更別說LA市場比HOU大多 05/31 15:15
qoomilk:湖人的第五年 以及DH換約的第一年 隨便22M+原本8M就贏了 05/31 15:15
cpla1017:少了 他那麼愛秀又愛大舞台的人會錯過LA嗎? 有點存疑 05/31 15:15
qoomilk:場外收益...要不要看看今年DH再LA場外收益多少? 05/31 15:16
cpla1017:但這也要確定他可以再拿到大約吧 至少在湖人是穩穩拿的 05/31 15:17
qoomilk:留在LA被Kobe迷幹巧 被湖人記者罵臭頭這樣 然後先擺濫一年 05/31 15:17
cpla1017:再怎麼說 LA的機會還是比HOU大多了 廣告代言、表演... 05/31 15:18
qoomilk:DH還需要確定拿大約??今年風風雨雨這麼大哪支球隊不頂薪簽 05/31 15:18
qoomilk:就跟你說自己去看今年DH在LA的場外收益 05/31 15:19
cpla1017:我不是說不希望DH來 只是權衡一下 其實他留LA也不小 05/31 15:19
qoomilk:LBJ最高 在來跟第二名的KB就有差距 第三名差更多 05/31 15:19
cpla1017:我知道他在LA場外收益減少 但誰曉得未來呢? 搞不好他續約 05/31 15:20
cpla1017:湖人後就洗白了也不是沒可能 還是別太樂觀 怕像當年魔術 05/31 15:20
qoomilk:光經濟人把高富帥跟DH湊一起拍廣告 這已經在鋪路了 05/31 15:20
cpla1017:迷一樣滿懷希望結果被潑了冷水 05/31 15:20
qoomilk:當時魔術迷誰潑冷水? 每個都希望他滾 05/31 15:21
cpla1017:如果能這樣就太好 我也是希望他來HOU 在湖人真的太痛苦 05/31 15:21
jc0209:其實待在哪都有可能啦~ 05/31 15:22
qoomilk:依照目前狀況是不會選湖人 但是也許米奇大動作整理球隊 05/31 15:22
qoomilk:就另當別論 05/31 15:22
jc0209:留在湖人要忍一年 不過明年空間非常大 只有Nash有合約(吧?) 05/31 15:23
qoomilk:Kobe除非退休 不然還不是跟Nash差不多的約卡在那 05/31 15:23
cpla1017:不 其實當時他還沒放話要去籃網前 魔術球迷都認為他會留 05/31 15:23
cpla1017:下來的 05/31 15:24
qoomilk:而且湖人還是繼續是Kobe的球隊 05/31 15:24
qoomilk:他就是開始放話演劇場開始 每個都希望他快滾結束這劇 05/31 15:24
cpla1017:所以DH還沒放話要來火箭前 還是先別太興奮 怕他到時候 05/31 15:25
cpla1017:又說還是續留湖人 05/31 15:25
jc0209:火箭的話本身陣容已經不差了 年輕又很有競爭力 05/31 15:26
qoomilk:不會太興奮阿 大不了把錢拿去給Josh 等於今年陣容+Josh 05/31 15:26
qoomilk:有DH是能立刻在西區奪冠本錢 沒有核心都年輕5年都有機會 05/31 15:28
black2453:他跟魔術是被大范爆料才導致關係破裂吧 05/31 15:31
black2453:魔獸人生第一季時,他可能真的想留在魔術 直到... 05/31 15:32
jc0209:而且球隊氣氛跟化學反應來看 火箭好多了 05/31 15:35
and1hotsauce:想不到現在是火箭拿到DH希望比較大 看國外民調火箭 05/31 15:36
and1hotsauce:拿到DH機會是最高的 大概有70%的人認為DH會到火箭 05/31 15:36
and1hotsauce:湖人球迷好像對DH續留都滿悲觀的 想不到一個季後賽 05/31 15:37
and1hotsauce:打完 情勢居然反轉 如果之前說DH要離開湖人 一定會被 05/31 15:37
and1hotsauce:說做白日夢 05/31 15:38
and1hotsauce:如果之前說火箭有機會拿到DH 一定會被笑 05/31 15:39
qoomilk:當時他要錢也要冠軍 魔術就是沒冠軍 才會去湖人不鳥火箭 05/31 15:40
qoomilk:現在湖人跟火箭一樣都有錢 但是湖人不但沒冠軍還要重建 05/31 15:40
and1hotsauce:恩 要重建也要等到2014了 而且能不能抓到大咖重建順 05/31 15:41
qoomilk:他會當好人把巔峰4年留給湖人帶小弟拉拔重建? 05/31 15:42
and1hotsauce:利都還是未知數 更別說還要磨合的問題了 DH應該沒那 05/31 15:42
and1hotsauce:耐心陪公子練球XD 05/31 15:42
qoomilk:明年擺濫有DH拿的到簽也許前三順位都沒有 後年才開始重建 05/31 15:42
and1hotsauce:還有Kobe都受傷了 下一季能不能回來都還不知道 而且 05/31 15:43
and1hotsauce:也不曉得他狀況能不能回到以前 都是未知數啊 05/31 15:44
and1hotsauce:DH如果續留湖人 明年大概整支球隊都要靠他撐了 05/31 15:44
and1hotsauce:如果打得差 壓力一定可想而知非常巨大 05/31 15:45
and1hotsauce:火箭幾乎摩合差不多了 直接加進來 完全體就形成了 05/31 15:46
ts0821:Lin,鬍子,高富帥,(Hickson or Millsap),DH @@! 05/31 15:50
lucifer1C1:.我看到上面有人說DH留在湖人的話多一年3000萬大勝 05/31 16:37
lucifer1C1:德州免稅多得的800萬.... 05/31 16:37
lucifer1C1:...這是拿稅前的進帳跟稅後的進帳做相比.... 05/31 16:38
lucifer1C1:那3000萬實拿可能只有一半1500萬而已.. 05/31 16:41
lucifer1C1:在火箭前四年可多拿800萬..如果DH在四年後還健康的話.. 05/31 16:42
lucifer1C1:續約第一年算2300萬左右好了,實拿算1300萬就好... 05/31 16:45
lucifer1C1:1300+800 == 2100萬...同樣幹5年..至少多賺600萬... 05/31 16:46
neoage:到火箭比續留湖人還賺 實質$$多更多 陣容比湖人年輕還要有 05/31 16:54
neoage:競爭力和前瞻性 DH快來啊~~~ 05/31 16:55
jc0209:欠東風了 05/31 16:59
RollingWave:太極高手XD 06/01 12:22
RAYBO:莫雷對Lin的評價還真高呀~~有看比賽的球迷應該也會感覺到 06/02 02:31
RAYBO:Lin組織真的很有"靈性" 也越來越進步了 06/02 02:33