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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: accprote (KS) 看板: MLB 標題: [外電] Troy Tulowitzki vs Ryan Braun 時間: Sat Jan 30 23:29:24 2010 The question of who is the better player between Ryan Braun and Troy Tulowitzki has been an obsession of mine since the 2007 Rookie of the Year voting results (or snub, depending on your point of view) were reported to the world. 從2007年的ROY票選結果公佈之後後,Ryan Braun跟Troy Tulowitzki兩人之間     ,誰比較好的問題一直困擾著我 Non-statheads and traditionalists (and Brewer fans) would most likely choose Ryan Braun based on his counting stats total over the past 3 years (.308/.363/.574 with 103 HR and 317 RBI) and say that he is far superior to Tulowitzki's (.286/.359/.486 with 64 HR and 237 RBI) over that same stretch. As a side note, I am not including Tulowitzki's cup of coffee as a September call up in 2006 in these tallies; also of note Braun has a 15 game advantage over the past 3 seasons due to the inuries suffered by Tulowitzki durin the 2008 season. 在數據以及傳統上(以及酒鬼迷),Ryan Braun過去三年的成績比較受到青睞 (.308/.363/.574 with 103 HR and 317 RBI) 遙遙領先同時Tulowitzki的(.286/.359/.486 with 64 HR and 237 RBI) 一個小提醒,我沒有計算Tulowitzki在2006年的九月被叫上來泡咖啡的時期, 以及基於Tulowitzki在08年賽季中受傷而讓Braun在過去三年有多十五場的優勢 But if you look deeper into advanced metrics for determining player value, the case can be made that Tulowitzki is the better player. According to fangraphs Braun has compiled WAR totals over the past 3 years of 3.2, 4 and 4.8 for a total of 12 while Tulo has put up 5.4, 0.9 and 5.4 for a total of 11.7. If you factor in the fact that Braun has played 15 more games and put it in terms of a WAR/game measure its Braun 0.285 and Tulo 0.287. 但如果你更深入研究可以決定球員價值的數據的話,Tulowitzki會是比較好的球員 根據fangraphs,Braun過去三年的WAR指數是3.2,4,4.8,三年加總是12 而Tulo則是5.4,0.9,5.4,加總起來是11.7 如果把Braun多達15場以上的比賽算到WAR/game的話,Braun是0.285,Tulo是0.287 Baseball Prospectus thinks Tulo is better by a much bigger margin when you look at 3rd degree WARP numbers. Braun has a WARP3 factor of 15.3 and Tulowitzki 17.3. Baseball Prospectus認為當你在看第三度WARP數字時,(這段不太懂是啥數據,翻錯抱歉) Tulo是比較好的,Braun的WARP3數據是15.3,而Tulowitzki是17.3 Looking forward, Pecota and Chone both look more favorably upon Tulowitzki than Braun. While Marcels gives Braun the edge. Pecota跟Chone這都看好未來Tulowitzki會比Braun更好,雖然Macels有給Braun點優勢 There is no question that Braun is the better hitter. But we're trying to look at value here and who is the better PLAYER overall. Tulowitzki has great defense at a premium position, and is now starting to hit a little better which drives up his value, while Braun has superior offense at the least valuable defensive position. Braun是個好打者是無庸置疑的,但是我們試著去看誰有價值,誰是最好的PLAYER Tulowitzki有很好的守備,而且現在慢慢打出他的價值, 而Braun良好的打擊補足了他守備上的不足 Both players have been signed to long term deals at a deep discount, thus providing tremendous surplus value in a trade. Bruan has the edge in this department by about $2 to $4 million. Who is the better player? What are your thougts? 兩位都已經簽下便宜的長約,他們都在交易中有巨大的價值, Braun有多達$2M~$4M的價值 Who is the better player? What are your thougts? 排山口山時看到文章試著翻譯看看,順便練習一下, 翻得不好請見諒,也請多指出錯誤,謝謝 -- 幹咧! 剛重灌好找解壓縮 包成這樣是要怎麼安裝啦!!▅▅ / ▁ΞΞ \◣ 好的格式是不會沈寂的 現在叫好人幫你裝電腦的時候 ▕支__▏\ 也通常都會順便把winrar灌進去啦 ▃▃▃▃ Winrar_390-Final.rar axxxxxxx:但是也有把winrar安裝程式壓縮成rar的好人 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.161.210.168
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