作者wheatbug (深藍的屋內多了抹暗灰色꘩
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標題[情報] San Antonio Spurs Draft History
時間Tue May 8 22:44:19 2007
(本文章內容轉自
http://www.basketball-reference.com/ )
Year Lg Rd Pk Player College
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2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
2 29 Bryan Bracey University of Oregon
2000 NBA 2 12 Chris Carrawell Duke University
1999 NBA 2 28 Manu Ginobili
1998 NBA 1 24 Felipe Lopez St. John's University
2 23 Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan University
1997 NBA 1 1 Tim Duncan Wake Forest University
1995 NBA 1 29 Cory Alexander University of Virginia
1994 NBA 1 22 Bill Curley Boston College
1993 NBA 2 20 Chris Whitney Clemson University
1992 NBA 1 18 Tracy Murray University of California, Los Angeles
2 17 Henry Williams University of North Carolina at Charlotte
1991 NBA 2 22 Greg Sutton Oral Roberts University
1990 NBA 1 24 Dwayne Schintzius University of Florida
2 16 Tony Massenburg University of Maryland
2 27 Sean Higgins University of Michigan
1989 NBA 1 3 Sean Elliott University of Arizona
1988 NBA 1 10 Willie Anderson University of Georgia
2 2 Shelton Jones St. John's University
3 6 Barry Sumpter Austin Peay State University
3 25 Archie Marshall University of Kansas
1987 NBA 1 1 David Robinson United States Naval Academy
1 23 Greg Anderson University of Houston
2 4 Nate Blackwell Temple University
3 4 Phil Zevenbergen University of Washington
4 4 Todd May Pikeville College
5 4 Dennis Williams University of Georgia
6 5 Ricky Brown University of South Alabama
7 4 Raynard Davis University of Texas at Austin
1986 NBA 1 10 Johnny Dawkins Duke University
2 9 Kevin Duckworth Eastern Illinois University
3 1 Forrest McKenzie Loyola Marymount University
4 9 Carlos Briggs Baylor University
5 9 Earl Kelley University of Connecticut
6 9 Kevin Lewis Southern Methodist University
7 9 Michael Anderson University of Texas-Pan American
1985 NBA 1 14 Rick Hughes Loyola University of Chicago
2 5 Mike Brittain University of South Carolina
2 11 Tyrone Corbin DePaul University
4 12 Scott Roth University of Wisconsin
5 13 Clayton Olivier University of Southern California
6 12 Chris Harper University of Oregon
7 13 Al Young Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
1984 NBA 1 7 Alvin Robertson University of Arkansas
3 10 Joe Binion North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
4 8 John Devereaux Ohio University
4 20 Ozell Jones California State University, Fullerton
5 7 Eric Richardson University of Alabama
6 8 Dion Brown University of Louisiana at Lafayette
7 7 Michael Pitts University of California
8 8 Dan Tarkanian University of Nevada, Las Vegas
9 7 Melvin Roseboro St. Mary's University
10 8 Frank Rodriguez New Mexico State University
1983 NBA 1 19 John Paxson University of Notre Dame
2 11 Darrell Lockhart Auburn University
2 22 Kevin Williams St. John's University
4 20 Brant Weidner College of William & Mary
5 19 Jeff Pehl University of Richmond
6 20 Ricky Hooker St. Mary's University
7 19 Keith Williams Oklahoma Panhandle State University
8 20 Norville Brown Oklahoma Christian University
9 19 Gary Gaspard St. Mary's University
10 20 Lamar Heard University of Georgia
1982 NBA 2 1 Oliver Robinson University of Alabama at Birmingham
3 18 Willie Redden University of South Florida
4 18 Tony Grier University of South Florida
5 18 Clarence Swannegan Texas Tech University
6 18 Jaime Pena New Mexico State University
7 18 Delonte Taylor North Texas State University
8 18 Chris Faggi University of Memphis
9 17 Harry O'Brien St. Mary's University
10 17 Keith White McMurry University
1981 NBA 2 5 Gene Banks Duke University
2 7 Ed Rains University of South Alabama
3 18 Tom Baker Eastern Kentucky University
4 18 Earl Belcher St. Bonaventure University
5 18 Mike Rhodes Vanderbilt University
6 18 Norman Shavers Jackson State University
7 18 Mark Minderman Northern Michigan University
8 17 Bob Bartholomew University of San Diego
9 16 Leonel Marquetti Hampton University
10 17 Alvin Brooks Lamar University
1980 NBA 1 15 Reggie Johnson University of Tennessee
2 16 Michael Wiley California State University, Long Beach
3 14 Lavon Mercer University of Georgia
3 15 Rich Yonakor University of North Carolina
4 14 Calvin Roberts California State University, Fullerton
5 15 Gib Hinz University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
6 14 Dean Uthoff Iowa State University
7 15 Allan Zahn University of Arkansas
8 12 Bill Bailey University of Texas-Pan American
9 13 Al Williams North Texas State University
10 10 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
1979 NBA 1 19 Wiley Peck Mississippi State University
3 19 Sylvester Norris Jackson State University
4 18 Al Daniel Furman University
5 18 Steve Schall University of Arkansas
6 17 Terry Knight University of Pittsburgh
7 18 Tyrone Branyan University of Texas at Austin
9 16 Eddie McLeod University of Nevada, Las Vegas
10 15 Glen Fine Harvard University
1978 NBA 1 20 Frankie Sanders Southern University and A&M College
3 20 Gerald Henderson Virginia Commonwealth University
4 20 Rich Adams University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
5 20 Eugene Parker Purdue University
6 19 Harry Morgan Indiana State University
7 19 Hector Olivencia Sacred Heart University
8 16 Henry Taylor University of Texas-Pan American
9 15 Rick Taylor Arizona State University
10 14 Larry Brewster University of Florida
1977 NBA 2 15 Jeff Wilkins Illinois State University
3 15 Dan Henderson Arkansas State University
4 15 Matt Hicks Northern Illinois University
5 15 Scott Sims University of Missouri
6 15 Bruce Buckley University of North Carolina
7 14 Richard Robinson University of New Mexico
8 15 Jerome Gladney University of Arizona
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本人在前面的文章中表示個人認為小烏是馬刺近年來選秀養成系統中最失敗的例子
但有板友推文表示立陶宛流氓 & Scola 就結果論來看其失敗程度亦不徨多讓
然而看看馬刺自從 TD 加入之後,第一輪選秀權著實少的可憐
02 年的鮭魚以及 03 年的包薄紗也是因為事先談妥交易才替他隊選進這兩名球員
第一輪被選中的球員除了有保證簽約之外約期也較長
因此若在第一輪選進會留隊的球員,一般來說都是被評估為半完成品的角色
而在第二輪中段以後所選的,則可視之為只是在挑未開發或有待鑑定的潛力股
立陶宛流氓要不是出了場機車意外事故,或許早就被球團順利召回了也不一定
Oberto 在國際賽上的表現被公認凌駕於 Scola 之上 (雖然兩人的位置不同)
然而他在進入 NBA 後,這兩個賽季下來究竟實力如何大家都是有目共睹
Scola & Javtokas 都還有待証明自己是否能在 NBA 中占有一席之地
可小烏卻已然在聯盟中待了三個球季,並接受過火星小范、V怪客的指導
結果證實他雖可在區域聯防陣勢中做好他的工作,但在進攻時卻不是個可靠的 PG 或射手
因此我才會說他是「最失敗」的例子啊........
小烏下個賽季的薪資高達 260 萬,有球團是否要執行 Qualifying Offer 的八卦嗎 =.=
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推 hsnudo:看了這篇才知道原來麥香堡是馬刺選的耶 05/08 22:50
→ hsnudo:選秀後流浪數隊最後又在馬刺結束生涯,真神奇啊 05/08 22:52
推 dogville:推 前陣子我也仔細研究過近年選秀 休季大家再來好好聊聊 05/08 22:59
推 kaneggyy:Javtokas真的沒機會了嗎? 05/08 23:04
目前還不確定,爬文所得的結果是談判僅剩細節尚未完成
→ s1720109:Felipe Lopez是現在在打大聯盟那個嗎? 05/08 23:15
推 Hanglin:我突然想到..我們前兩年球員交換拿到的兩個第一輪選秀權? 05/08 23:27
推 dogville:隨著黑玫瑰到尼克去了 T_T 05/08 23:28
推 ArashiKanno:其實真要追溯的話 前一年換掉百步沙就已經是失策了 05/08 23:38
→ ArashiKanno:小烏會被認為是失敗的選秀 也是結果論下的產物 05/08 23:39
推 ArashiKanno:因為在後面的Varejao、Duhon現在表現都好太多了 05/08 23:42
推 ArashiKanno:實在是不想用結果論來評斷小烏 05/08 23:48
馬刺在近幾年薪資結構緊繃的狀態下將第一輪選秀權拿去換未來選秀權也是不得已的
有長期注意我們家球隊薪資的人一定知道,我們家老闆是不願付豪華稅的正常人 XD
在 Manu、小趴換約前,制服組就已先為他們的續約保留了一點彈性空間
順利與他們完成續約雖然讓我們確定了主力陣容不變,但薪資空間卻卡的更死了
長期以來在馬刺戰績輝煌的背後所付出的代價,就是每年選秀順位均低的可憐
第一輪獲選球員有保障簽約,因此若球隊選不到即戰力型球員那也只是增加薪資負擔
空握著一張第一輪最末段選秀權還不如將之交易出去
交易不掉或是談不出啥好交易條件的,就乾脆選個潛力股放洋到國外去養碰碰運氣
Barbosa 在 03 年選秀前測試就已經令太陽隊驚豔而鎖定為欲網羅之球員
太陽當年先在第一輪第十七順位選了 Zarko Cabarkapa
然後再對當年擁有第一輪第二十八順位選秀權的馬刺提出交換選秀權的交易
這筆交易的但書是要我們能幫他們選到 Barbosa 交易才會成立
這樣一來就可以避免太陽先換了選秀權後 Barbosa 卻被人攔胡的悲劇發生
因此嚴格來說,選 Barbosa 本來就不在馬刺原定的選秀計劃之中
我們又怎麼能說當年交易掉他是失敗的呢? (馬刺是幫太陽選他的耶 ╮(﹀_﹀")╭)
小烏被我認為失敗是因為他已被證實無法在隊中當個稱值的替補 PG (第一輪選的....)
Scola 與 Javtokas 則是尚未有機會證明實力,又是第二輪末端才選到的球員
兩者的基本情況不同無法相提並論,更何況我說的是選秀「養成」失敗而不是單指選秀
姑且不論 Varejao、Duhon 在當年的選秀前測試評估上是否有比小烏優異
在選秀會上球隊應該做的是把握自己的順位去選一名符合隊形需求、建軍計畫的球員
而不是去選一名不符合自身需求的優秀球員 (老梗 → 火箭選了美夢沒選喬神)
況且他們兩人也是花了騎士、公牛不少時間去培養之後才有現在的成果
我實在不知道為什麼要拿他隊球員來和馬刺自己所選的球員來比較哩....^^a
推 fracs:我相信小烏 他一定有大放異彩的一天 05/09 00:40
推 TimChiu:最近五年選的有點糟 05/09 07:29
推 tzengagan:最近五年選秀似乎有點糟糕~是因為制服組被挖角的關係嗎 05/09 08:44
推 joumay:板大打算拖到六月底才寫....其心可議啊.................. 05/09 10:57
→ iris0108:我覺得其他人表現好是因為他們隊伍有讓他表現 而小烏少上 05/09 11:21
→ iris0108:場 幾乎都是讓他打垃圾時間 鍛鍊不夠 05/09 11:22
我覺得這是個很有趣的問題:
到底是小烏的上場時間影響了表現呢?還是他的表現影響了上場時間呢?
在我看來答案應該是後者,Pop 其實已經給過他很多機會了說........
每人的看法不盡相同是常有的事,歡迎大家提出更多看法 ^^
※ 編輯: wheatbug 來自: 203.70.79.36 (05/22 07:59)