Re: [外電] If I were Spurs' R.C. Buford . . .

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: If I were Spurs' R.C. Buford . . .
: Written by Trevor Zickgraf | 12 July 2011

看來「交易RJ」已經成為所有刺迷共同的心聲了XD
好奇找了一下，我把完整版的討論貼出來好了。
http://www.projectspurs.com/2011-articles/july/if-i-were-rc-buford-not-done.html

If I were Spurs' R.C. Buford . . .
Written by Trevor Zickgraf | 12 July 2011

The man - Project Spurs' Jeff Garcia - tasked me with a lose-lose situation.

He asked to compile some realistic Richard Jefferson trade ideas.
Unfortunately that is going to be difficult to do cause many San Antonio
Spurs fans think Jefferson is the worst player the team has thanks to his
awful play down the stretch and the gigantic contract that was gift wrapped
to him by Spurs' management.

However, thanks to the amazing ESPN NBA Trade Machine, I have found nine, yes
nine iffy too good trades that I would at least think about if I were R.C.
Buford. Some involve only Jefferson, others include other players including
Tony Parker.

I divided these ideas into two groups, those involving Parker and those that
don't. So here they are in no particular order.

Trades which don't involve Tony Parker:

-Jason Thompson & Francisco Garcia for Richard Jefferson:

File this under both iffy and good. It's good because it's realistic. It's
iffy because I'm not sure what it does for both teams. For the Spurs,
Thompson is the prize here. He's 6'11", block shots and hit a jumper. Garcia
also has three years left on his contract, but makes less money than
Jefferson, but doesn't fit on that team and with the additions of Jimmer and
John Salmons, the 2 guard spot is pretty much taken up. The trade also gives
the Kings a small forward that knows how to play basketball because here in
Sacramento, we're not really sure Donte Green knows how to play basketball.
Garcia would also be a nice fit on the Spurs because he's a tough, defensive
minded guy and at 6'7" can play either the 2 or the 3. Plus he's 30, so the
national media will say he fits in well with the Spurs because he's "getting
up there in age". It's not a great deal, but at least it's realistic. See, I
told you I could do this.

-Jose Calderon for Richard Jefferson:

One bad contract for another. Gives the Spurs a back up point guard at one
less year than Jefferson's left on his deal. Toronto starts Linas Kleiza or
James Johnson at small forward. Surely Richard Jefferson is a better option
for Toronto. Plus, Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo is an idiot, but we'll talk
more about that later. File this under iffy because I'm not sure Jose
Calderon is any better than Mike Bibby at this point.

-Anderson Varejao for Richard Jefferson and Matt Bonner:

Now we're talking. Project Spurs lead writer Paul Garcia tweets this idea
every so often and I think it's fantastic. Cleveland has a bit of a log jam
at power forward and Anderson Varejao has four years left on his deal and
really has no business on a rebuilding team. Varejao can help a team win now
with his defense and energy. He can play next to any other big man in the
league. Despite having just traded for Omri Casspi, the Cavs are woefully
thin at the small forward spot. Taking on Jefferson and Matt Bonner gives the
Cavs a couple of forwards who can shoot, which will help Kyrie Irving's
development just because it will help him build trust in his teammates. This
is a good trade... a really good trade actually.

-Josh Childress and Robin Lopez for Richard Jefferson and Gary Neal:

I know seeing Gary Neal here rubs some people the wrong way, but sometimes
you have to give something up to get something in return, or in this case
give up a good contract in order to get rid of a bad one. Also, this would
involve the Spurs taking on Josh Childress' contract, which has four years
left on it, but at 6 million a year. Doesn't sound too bad. Robin Lopez gives
the Spurs that 7-foot body they've been looking for. He's not awesome, but
he's not bad either. Jefferson is an Arizona guy so he's more of a draw in
Phoenix than most places. I'm calling this a good trade. Childress and Lopez
would be good in the Spurs system. Plus, both have awesome hair.

-Stephen Jackson for Richard Jefferson:

Cap'n Jack returns to the Spurs! He makes too much money, he's getting up
there in age and he takes some terrible shots. He does all these things and
he'd still be great on this Spurs team. Let's say he starts acting up in
Milwaukee, why wouldn't you just call the Bucks and say "I have another
overpaid small forward for you, only this one doesn't run his mouth". If
you're Bucks GM John Hammond, who has seen RJ succeed in Milwaukee before,
you at least consider it right? It's a good trade. Every team needs one crazy.

-Travis Outlaw and Johan Petro for Richard Jefferson:

This is the iffiest iffy trade I could come up with that could MAYBE happen.
Travis Outlaw was worse for the Nets last season than Jefferson was for the
Spurs. Johan Petro is 7 feet tall and... and... well he's 7 feet tall and the
Spurs don't have one of those right now. It's a terrible trade, but both it
would save the Spurs a little bit of money in the long run.


Trades Involving Tony Parker:

This is where it gets fun. We all know RJ's contract is pretty awful, so
getting the best value for him means throwing the Spurs best trade chip in
with their worst (I don't blame you RJ, I blame the contract). I tried to
have some fun with this, let's see what happens when I package Tony Parker
and Richard Jefferson together.

Chris Kaman, Mo Williams & Willie Warren for Tony Parker & Richard Jefferson

Here's the true center you've always wanted Spurs fans. And you get a sharp
shooting point guard who was the second best player on two 60+ win teams.
LeBron was the best player on those teams, but whatever. Both Williams and
Kaman's deals are shorter than Parker and Jefferson's, so there is some cap
flexibility in there that needs to be taken into consideration. In fact,
Kaman has one year left on his deal, so if that project doesn't work out,
that's $12.2 million off the books for next summer. The Clippers could use
some veteran leadership to pair with that great, young nucleus they're
building. Richard Jefferson is also a better option at Small Forward than
anything they have until Al-Farouq Aminu is ready to be a full time smarter.
Pretty fair deal and a steal if the Spurs could find a way to get Aminu from
the Clips as well. Man, I almost talked myself into that one. This is a good
trade. What's next?

Jose Calderon, Jerryd Bayless & Andrea Bargnani for Tony Parker & Richard
Jefferson

Go ahead and scream now Spurs fans, cause I kinda just screamed a little
writing it up. But let's look at this glass full. Bargs is entering his prime
and is a ridiculous matchup for the other team. He's got some young Dirk in
him so if you can make him a little tougher, get him to rebound a little
better, then he's close to being worth the bad contract they gave him.
Personally I love Jerryd Bayless. He's 23 and has a ton of Tony Parker in
him. In the last month of the season, Bayless finally got off the Raptors
bench and averaged 22.5 ppg and 5.6 apg in 37 mpg. Still, this is an iffy
trade at best. But, Bryan Colangelo does like his Euros (Parker) and the Raps
do need a small forward (Jefferson) so maybe you convince the Raps to give
you a draft pick and then the trade becomes a lot better. Still, I don't know
if Bryan Colangelo is that dumb. Iffy trade for the Spurs.

Al Jefferson & Devin Harris for Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson & Gary Neal

Now we're talking! This is probably my favorite trade. Spurs get a good back
to the basket player and a borderline top 10 point guard. They can still
compete for the next year or two with Duncan and then have a nice front court
moving forward. The Jazz have a loaded front court already and Big Al's
contract isn't something they want to swallow. They also don't have a Small
Forward at the moment and apparently aren't sold on Harris, so why not take
on a couple of accomplished players? Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor is a shrewd and
smart GM, so I really have no idea if this trade would actually happen. In
theory though, good trade.

Wait, wait, one last idea:

Chris Paul & Emeka Okafor for Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson and Tiago
Splitter

Just kidding, it'll never happen. Carry on Spurs fans.

OK Spurs fans what do you have to say? Do you like any of these trade ideas
or is San Antonio doomed to live with Jefferson until his contract expires.

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→ keepstudying:所以球迷希望交易RJ，跟會不會發生，就如同英文中的
→ keepstudying:wish(期待，但事情不太可能發生)嗎? XDD
推 magicchen:有些還蠻搶劫的就是 不過作個夢也好
→ csy1911:不要再討論國王了 他們側翼滿得跟什麼一樣 根本不可能要RJ
→ csy1911:比較有討論空間的有暴龍 快艇 騎士
→ csy1911:不過騎士有了更便宜功能差不多的Casspi 應該也不會要RJ
→ csy1911:跟籃網的交易之前討論過了 Outlaw功能不會比RJ好 甚至更差
→ csy1911:小將軍季末有承諾Outlaw下季上場時間 說不定人家還不要...
推 jack0124:我們拿去換畢斯利回來好了一天到晚去毛病的人物?XDD
推 spurs2120:我認為有Parker的部份全部都是幻想...
推 johnnynono:只有一筆比較有機會,其他都當對方GM白癡?
推 ando:RJ這包搭了Tp也還是乏人問津阿  (新一代瘟神?)
→ spurs2120:樓上指得該不會是快艇那筆吧？
推 johnnynono:Nets那筆,因為只有那筆我們虧XD快艇的也算fair
→ spurs2120:你這兩筆我都覺得馬刺虧爆了 XD
推 johnnynono:快艇那筆短期不虧虧長期,Nets是絕對虧
→ spurs2120:快艇那筆先不提Kaman痛痛，他明年FA要是一走了之...
→ spurs2120:我們馬上變成TP + RJ 換 Mo...
推 johnnynono:也可以無懸念重建啦XDKaman去年短期的出賽看來還是個咖
→ spurs2120:不不不，身為去年FB擁有Kaman的人，我深知他的可怕...
推 csy1911:RJ:我可以保證TP接下來三年都在聖城度過 (誤
推 joumay:這裡頭只有拿 RJ 換醜臉回來俺比較期待... 不過球一顆夠嗎?
→ spurs2120:這個奢侈的煩惱應該等到換成了再來擔心 XD
→ Alfred:這篇只是一個blogger用ESPN的Machine自high的，看看就好啦
→ Alfred:我覺得這頂多只能說明馬刺迷到底有多想換掉RJ而已XDD
→ waterfall:其實換教練也許是另一種方式，不是pop不好，而是馬刺的
→ waterfall:體系現在來說不但複雜，而且也單調，新的教練也許會有新
→ waterfall:的刺激，RJ不是不能用的球員，而是戰術打不出來
推 hydeless:唉，還要講幾次，RJ不單單只是戰術的問題。
→ Alfred:換教練重點應該是改變建軍思維要重建，RJ更不可能在藍圖內
推 larson:所以結論是: RJ還是走不了?! XDD
→ xyyzzz:近5年來馬刺最差的交易案就是換來RJ了吧..這打從交易過來就
→ xyyzzz:知道的事..現在就是卡在薪資問題還有賣相不佳
推 ando:薪資問題牽涉到賣相不佳 故該打屁股的人是Popo跟R.C
推 kasen15:交易RJ明明就是個很棒的交易案，馬刺根本沒啥損失耶，只是
→ kasen15:延長合約談得很鳥......
→ Alfred:交易當時沒人想到RJ會變成這樣，但去年重新簽約就有爭議了
推 blackdevil:其實重點是在於去年的重新簽約很傷.....
→ sneak: 薪資問題牽涉到賣相不佳 https://muxiv.com