作者Alfred (Keine Ahnung)
看板Spurs
標題Re: [情報] More Offensive Geometry
時間Thu May 24 08:39:06 2012
同作者的後續,
這次他把每個球員的數據通通放上來了,
有興趣的人可以看一下。James Harden真的很神。
不過我們家的Tiago也不賴!
http://www.hickory-high.com/?p=4515
Offensive Outcomes
Posted on May 23, 2012 by Ian Levy
Creating all the offensive distribution graphs for my Offensive Geometry post
yesterday involved hours of tedious, manual scanning of possessions
statistics from mySynergySports. The upside is that I ended up with a wealth
of data on individual offensive outcomes (player/possession type) organized
in a spreadsheets. These numbers are all available from mySynergySports, but
not in a sortable format that lets you compare or rank players by possession
type, frequency of possession or possession efficiency. If you ever wanted to
find the top five players in scoring efficiency in isolations it involved
lots of guesswork and an equal amount of searching. Luckily for you, I’ve
now done most of that guesswork and searching.
I’ve taken all the outcomes I grabbed for my radar graphs and put them
together into one table. Because I only grabbed data that fit the parameters
of my offensive distribution project, this only includes offensive outcomes
that occurred at least 100 times this season. I was also focused on
intentional half-court decisions so there is no data for offensive rebounds
or transition possessions. In looking at this data it also helps to keep in
mind the league averages for each possession type:
Cut – 1.18 PPP
PnR Screener – 0.97 PPP
Spot Up – 0.94 PPP
Off Screen – 0.87 PPP
Hand Off – 0.87 PPP
Post Up – 0.82 PPP
PnR Ball Handler – 0.78 PPP
Isolation – 0.78 PPP
To sort the table by frequency or points per possession within a possession
category, first sort by either frequency or points per possessions, then sort
by possession type.
[連結裡有表格]
Here’s the link to the entire table.
The table can be awkward to manipulate so I pulled out the top and bottoms of
some of the categories.
Top 5 Overall
1.55 ppp – Andrew Bynum – Cut
1.51 ppp – Steve Novak – Spot Up
1.51 ppp – Tyson Chandler – Cut
1.46 ppp – Blake Griffin – Cut
1.38 ppp – Chris Bosh – Cut
Bottom 5 Overall
0.54 ppp – Baron Davis – PnR Ball Handler
0.54 ppp – Tristan Thompson – Post Up
0.55 ppp – Iman Shumpert – PnR Ball Handler
0.55 ppp – Kendrick Perkins – Post Up
0.56 ppp – Samardo Samuels – Post Up
Top 3 Spot Up
1.51 ppp – Steve Novak
1.34 ppp – Kyle Korver
1.29 ppp – Mike Dunleavy
Top 3 Post Up
1.05 ppp – Paul Pierce
1.03 ppp – Carl Landry
1.02 ppp – Joe Johnson
Top 3 PnR Screener
1.34 ppp – Tiago Splitter
1.22 ppp – Marcin Gortat
1.22 ppp – Amare Stoudemire
Top 3 PnR Ball Handler
1.04 ppp – James Harden
1.04 ppp – Isaiah Thomas
0.97 ppp – Kyle Lowry
Top 3 Off Screen
1.08 ppp – Ray Allen
1.04 ppp – Mike Dunleavy
1.03 ppp – Klay Thompson
Top 3 Isolation
1.07 ppp – James Harden
1.05 ppp – Chris Paul
1.03 ppp – Kyrie Irving
There is plenty here to look at, but here are a few things that struck me:
Non-Shooters shooting
8 players scored at a below-average rate on spot-up opportunities and used at
least 200 of those possessions. Alonzo Gee is young and played on a bad
Cavaliers team. Because of their lack of offensive weapons, he was probably
asked to shoot more often than is ultimately good for him or the team. Most
of the rest of the list is made up of players who at one time carried
reputations as reliable outside threats, but appear to have undergone a
surprising regression – Tayshaun Prince, Antawn Jamison, Jason Richardson,
Marcus Thornton, Landry Fields and Chris Bosh. Finally we arrive at Josh
Smith. He used a total of 377 spot-up possessions, by far the most of any
player who scored at a below average rate. In fact only player in the entire
league, Caron Butler, used more spot-up possessions this season than Smith.
He used more spot up possessions than Kyle Korver and Steve Novak combined!
Novak
It can not be understated how much Steve Novak did with his first opportunity
at playing significant NBA minutes. The 1.51 points per possession he
averaged on spot ups was the second most efficient offensive outcome in the
entire league. It was also nearly three times as efficient as his teammates
Baron Davis or Iman Shumpert were in the pick-and-roll. The difference
between Novak and the next most efficient spot up shooter, was equal to the
difference in efficiency between Kobe Bryant in the post and JaVale McGee in
the post.
Looking For Weapons In Cleveland
Kyrie Irving had an incredible rookie season, and at 1.03 points per
possession, was the third-most efficient isolation scorer in the league.
However it was difficult to find many other positive offensive outcomes. The
Cavs had two of the three worst post up scorers in the league in Tristan
Thompson and Samardo Samuels, who used a combined 208 possession on the
block. Omri Casspi, Jamison and Gee were all below average spot up shooters.
Jamison also ranked as the least efficient screener in the pick-and-roll at
just 0.67 points per possession. The Cavaliers could take a big step forward
next year but they’ll need to find some more scorers to support Irving.
Versatility
A few players stand out as incredibly efficient in multiple categories. James
Harden was top three in both isolations and as the ball handler in
pick-and-rolls. He also scored a well-above-average 1.16 points per
possession in spot up opportunities. Marc Gasol was another who could hurt a
defense in multiple ways. Gasol was terrific in the pick-and-roll, 1.05 ppp,
and as a cutter, 1.10 ppp. He was also one of the most efficient post
scorers, averaging 0.93 points per possessions, more than Andrew Bynum,
Dwight Howard, Zach Randolph and Luis Scola.
I hope this data is a useful resource for everyone, I know in the past I’ve
found it frustrating to not be able to compare a player’s Synergy numbers to
their peers. If you have trouble finding something specific let me know and I
’ll try to help locate it. If you find something interesting please share it
in the comments or pass it along on Twitter, @HickoryHigh.
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