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You Can Do Better, Manu Ginobili By J. Gomez (Edg5) on Sep 30, 11:37a 外電網址: http://ppt.cc/Qpxz The You Can Do Better series forces me to pick apart the game of my favorite player. He's Manu Ginobili, but even he has room for improvement. 這次You can do better的主角是我最喜歡的球員:Manu Ginobili!!! You know who was the only player in the NBA to play over 600 minutes and have above .600 effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentage and an above 30% assist percentage? I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with Nanu Ninobili. If I reduce those number to 550 on eFG% and TS% and to a 25% assist percentage, he is joined by LeBron James, Stephen Curry, Steve Nash and...Jordan Farmar? 上季全聯盟上場超過600分鐘的球員中,只有一個球員的有效投籃命中率和真實投籃命中 率都大於六成且有30%以上的助攻比,你知道是誰嗎? 給你個提示:他唸起來很像Nanu Ninobili 要是我們放寬標準,有效投籃命中率和真實投籃命中率超過55%且助攻比超過 25%的話,LBJ、S.Curry、Nash、Farmar也可以上榜。 You know who led all shooting guards in assist rate? Manu Ginobili. Pure Point Rating? Manu Ginobili. Manu assists teammates at a higher rate than Russell Westbrook, Ty Lawson, Mike Conley and Jason Kidd, to name a few. Manu Ginobili is a scoring point guard. 你知道得分後衛中,助攻比最高的是誰嗎? 純得分效率呢? 都是Manu Ginobili! Manu的助攻率甚至還高於幾個控球後衛,像是西河、泰勞、Conley、Kidd等等,Manu可以 說是一個得分型控衛。 Now, those of you who have been unfortunate enough to follow what I write know that I've been saying this for some time now. That's why I want a combo guard and not a traditional point next to him in the second unit and why, as much as I love Kawhi and think it was the right decision, I still miss George Hill. 現在,你應該知道我在說什麼了,這也是我為什麼這麼想要一個雙能衛和Manu搭配帶領第 二部隊,我好想念George Hill…. What makes Manu a shooting guard is his inability to guard point guards, but on offense you want him running things. He's not Ray Allen or Richard Hamilton - guys that thrive playing off the ball, curling off screens and just shooting. Manu needs the ball in his hands and knows what to do with it when he gets it. The only reason why he doesn't run more sets is because the Spurs have another elite scoring guard that can create for himself and others in Tony Parker and, unlike Manu, Tony is not a particularly good off-the-ball player. Manu之所以是個得分後衛是因為他守不住對方的控球後衛,但在進攻端他卻可以做到你想 要的。他不像雷槍或RIP瘋狂地跑位找尋掩護出手。Manu需要球在手中,而且他總是知道 接下來該怎麼做。為什麼我們不那麼常看到他這樣發揮,因為馬刺的後衛群還有另一個頂 尖的得分好手─Tony Parker 他可以自行創造自己或隊友的出手機會,但不像Manu, Prker不持球時沒有威脅性。 So that's who Manu is. Now let's get to the point of this series: 這就是Ginobili! 接著我們來切入重點吧! How can he improve? Over the last couple of seasons Manu has posted similar per 36 minutes stats. Points per game have dropped slightly while efficiency from the field and the 3-point line increased. He's also getting more boards and assisting more. This is consistent with his evolution from scorer to scorer/creator and it's not a bad thing. So which areas of Manu's game could use some improvement? 他該怎麼進步? 過去幾季,Manu平均上場36分鐘的數據都差不多,平均得分有些微下滑,但出手的效率更 高了,籃板和助攻也有增加,這表示他從一個得分手進化成得分+發動戰術者,這不是壞 事。所以他有什麼需要進步的呢? Help defense Throughout his career, Manu has been a good defensive player. Not lock-down, but disruptive and always ready to make an impact play. The Spurs had Bruce Bowen for containment, which freed Ginobili to play passing lanes. Without Bruce and with Tim Duncan devolving from "transcendent defensive beast" to "great defensive player", Manu has had to change his defensive strategy and become a more conservative player in a lot of facets. At his best, he's still a nightmare for opponents because you can never be sure what he'll do, but sometimes he becomes tentative and the defense suffers because of it. 幫忙防守 在他的整個生涯中,Manu一直都是個很優秀的防守者。不是大鎖,但很有破壞性,且總是 準備好應付對手的攻勢。從前有Bowen這個防守專家時,Manu可以大膽的阻擾對手的傳球 路線,而現在Bowen退休了,Duncan也不再是禁區的防守怪物了,Manu必須改變防守策略 ,各方面都要比較保守。只要他保持最佳狀況,他仍舊是對手們的噩夢,因為你永遠不知 道他下一步要做什麼。 Most of us noticed Manu playing off his man sometimes to soft-double a post player, only to see the guy he was supposed to be guarding hit a 3 after a feed from the post. That is in part by design (the soft-double, not the resulting 3) and it can wreck havoc on some post players, since not knowing when, from where or if the double team will come can throw even accomplished post threats out of rhythm, as Al Jefferson can attest to. The problem is there's a fine line between helping guard two players and guarding none. If you help before the post player starts to work, there's an easy pass to an open shooter in the perimeter available. If you help too late, the soft-double does nothing. Being in and out of the rotation because of injury surely played a part, but Manu sometimes struggled getting the timing right and ended up closing out too late. With some reps, I'm confident he'll get there. 我們常會注意到Manu會放棄防守自己的人,而去包夾禁區球員,然後就看到他漏掉的人接 獲禁區的傳球後投進三分球。其實這是經過設計的,有時候確實可以破壞一些禁區球員的 節奏,像A.Jefferson。但問題在於協防與否的界線,如果你在禁區球員開始移動時就幫 忙防守,那他會很容易把球傳給空檔的射手;如果你協防的晚,那幹嘛協防呢? 傷痛多少 會影響Manu的表現,他有時候對於掌握正確時機掙扎而包夾過慢,但從過去的表現來看, 我對Manu是有信心的。 The other sign his off-ball defense needs to improve comes from his steal percentage, which was a career low 1.6% last season. Since he injured his hand going for a steal, it's possible that Manu played it safe from time to time. I'm OK with that - health is really the most important thing to consider with Ginobili. At the same time, Manu's biggest impact on defense comes from his disruptive style, and he will need that back if the Spurs are to improve on D. I'm not suggesting being overly-aggressive trying to chase steals, but a return to the top 20 in steal percentage after ranking 9th in 2010/11 would go a long way to help the Spurs create turnovers, something they are not particularly great at. As a bonus, having another guy with quick hands to go with Blair, Kawhi and Green might not only help the defense, but also trigger some fast break points, which coincidentally is another facet the Spurs could afford to improve. 另一個他要注意的地方是抄截比率,上季是他生涯最低的1.6%,可能跟他的手傷有關,因 此他會打得比較保守。這點我覺得說得過去,因為健康程度影響一個球員很大。而Manu防 守最大的武器就是他的侵略性,馬刺要想加強防守,一定需要他這點。我不建議他過度侵 略性的抄球,但他在2010/11球季還是抄截榜上的第9名呢! 要求他重返前20名不為過吧! 馬刺是不擅長製造對手失誤的,所以這點也很倚賴他。如果他和Blair、Kawhi、Green都 能發揮快手,那不僅能提升團隊防守,還能多製造快攻得分的機會。 Increase free throw attempts or develop a mid-range game Manu is an unbelievably smart offensive player. While some of his peers, like Kobe and Wade, launch mid-range jumper after mid-range jumper, Manu takes most of his shots either at the rim or from 3 and tries to draw fouls. Unfortunately, Manu has been having a hard time getting to the line recently ; just last season he shot 1.5 less free throws per 36 minutes than his career average. His flopper reputation, fair or not, probably plays a part on why the refs sometimes swallow their whistles when Manu drives. The rule change on the so-called "rip shot" is also probably to blame, as Manu was a master of getting calls by pulling up whenever a defender reached. Other than those external factors, Manu has been taking less shots close to the basket (3.8 shots at the rim per game in 2009/10, 2.6 in 2011/12). Getting those shot attempts up and forcing refs to make decisions more often would ideally result in more free throw attempts. 增加罰球次數或是增強中距離 Manu進攻上是個奇才,當他的勁旅們Kobe、Wade中距離唰唰唰連發時,Manu則是靠三分球 或切入賺犯規來取分。但不幸的是Manu站上罰球線的次數銳減,上季平均每36分鐘比生涯 平均少了1.5次。至於他的假摔,多少有些作用,至少裁判有時候會理會。Manu擅長的急 停投籃可以騙到防守者的犯規,但他接近籃框的投籃數已從上上季的3.8次跌到上季的2.6 次了,多增加這些出手並且左右裁判多響哨會是我們希望他做到的。 If Manu's diminishing speed on his first step limits him when trying to drive or he doesn't want to risk injury by absorbing contact at the rim during the regular season, developing a mid-range shot could be a good way to keep defenses on their toes. Teams guard Manu well behind the 3-point line, because he can pull up at any time, and bigs try to contest him at the rim, because he is a great finisher. There's room for Manu to work in between, especially after screens. Ginobili's mid-range jumper is almost as good as Tony's; the difference is Manu uses it much less. I'm not saying he should go from his recent one shot a game from 16-23 feet to a Parker-esque five, but going back to around two per game would force the defense to adjust to account for the new weapon. Adding variety to his shot selection would be a good way for Manu to keep defenders guessing and limit wear and tear during the regular season. While more mid-range shots would surely mean a slip on efficiency, sometimes taking not-so-good shots helps set up the ones you want to take and I believe this would be one of those instances. 第一步變慢了,導致Manu例行賽不太切入籃下,因此發展中距離對他會很有幫助,他在三 分線外會被嚴加看防,因為他隨時可以急停投籃,他切入禁區會被大個子嚴厲伺候,因為 他有優異的放球能力。Manu絕對有進步空間的,尤其是藉由掩護。Manu的中距離跳投幾乎 是跟Parker一樣準,只是Manu很少出手,我不會要求他像Parker每場比賽16-23呎處平均 出手5次以上,但至少也該要有2次,這樣可以迫使對手針對這新的武器做調整。增加了一 個得分方式讓對手更難判斷,且減少了受傷的可能。 As you see, Manu seems to not only be maintaining his level, but actually becoming a more well-rounded player. He's an amazing P&R ball-handler, he's shooting incredibly well and he's generally having a positive impact on the team. Aside from "play more minutes without getting hurt", these are the only areas in which I wish Manu would improve for this upcoming season. 如你所見,Manu不只是維持著自己的水準,更是越來越全面了。處理擋拆時,他是個菁英 ,他的投籃手感非常好且對球隊有正面的衝擊。除了希望他”打更久但不要受傷”以外, 以上就是我期待Manu下季能提升之處了。 -- ◢███◣ ◥◥◥ 我們不是搖擺不定 我們只是還在找尋平衡點 ╭╮ ◣ ▽ ╯╰天秤 ψQSWEET  ̄ ̄ ▂▂         Libra <天秤版> -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.253.238.180
kira123:推! 鬼禿努力犧牲頭髮吧!!!(?) 10/11 13:28
tth81222:我還在想PW大何時會翻呢 這篇隔的有點久XD 10/11 13:37
a88019:犧牲權步的頭髮換回總冠軍杯和史雲遜一年份(誤 10/11 13:38
victor16:有Manu就要推。 10/11 13:52
magicchen:MANU只要不受傷,他總可以帶給球迷驚奇不斷的表現 10/11 14:12
callecstacy:狂推 希望他說要退休的傳言是假的 10/11 14:17
arthurpu:努力長頭髮,然後報名演出:豈有此理?豈有此理?(咦!) 10/11 14:56
zbmrd:MANU都幾歲了 只要他維持身手就好 進步就不要奢望了 10/11 15:40
co766543:每一次的鬼切,都要犧牲掉一根頭髮!! 10/11 17:05
jnov:推PW ^^ 10/11 17:24
kasen15:推!! 10/11 17:27
jan58912:早點報到的話說不定多個冠軍了Q_Q 10/11 18:23
gjynh:加油馬紐 10/11 21:36
sodawang:Manu推!!!!!! 10/11 22:16
beerfish:Manu! 10/12 00:30
robinstart:健康幾乎是Manu唯一的弱點... 10/12 00:42
kimisky:Manu推!!! 期待這季他的表現^^ 10/12 01:08
wuchpan:想要搭配一個雙能衛嗎...回頭看看斑馬尼 v_v 10/12 01:10
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jealousguy:Manu Ginobili 必推! 10/12 23:02
csyang:Manu必推 10/13 00:03