[情報] You can do better(10) Tim Duncan

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You Can Do Better, Tim Duncan

By J. Gomez (Edg5) on Oct 25, 2:01pm

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According to a panel of experts, there are twelve big men better than Tim
Duncan right now. Only twelve? That's probably too generous. If there's a
player on the Spurs that needs to do better, it's Tim Duncan.

根據ESPN專家的排行，目前大個子中優於Duncan的有12人。只有12個? 太慷慨了吧! 如果
說馬刺隊有個需要進步的球員，那就是Tim Duncan

It is a melancholy object to those who call themselves Spurs fans, when they
see the games, the coverage, and the highlights crowded with images that show
us a Tim Duncan that is not very effective anymore. Sure, he still can play
somewhat, but it's obvious that he's nowhere near the top tier of NBA big men
any more. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs look no further than the details
released from a panel of experts from ESPN, which considered him the 27th
best player in the league and the 12th best big man after Dwight Howard,
Kevin Love, Dirk Nowitzki, Andrew Bynum, Blake Griffin, Pau Gasol, Chris
Bosh, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Garnett, Tyson Chandler and Marc Gasol. It
should go without saying that the panel is correct, and that there is no
reason whatsoever to doubt their expertise. I'm sure that each and every one
of them watched a lot of Spurs games (probably a majority, possibly every
single one) and checked out every stat available before casting their vote.
It should, in fact, go without saying. Even if, for some purely illogical
reason, you are somewhat opposed to taking the panel's view as gospel, you
would have to grant that the "Duncan is not that good anymore" narrative has
been part of the news cycle for a couple of years now.

當我們看了比賽、精華片段就會發現Duncan已經不再那麼有效率了，這對馬刺迷來說是個
悲劇。雖然他還是有一定的貢獻，但明顯地他已經不是聯盟中最強的幾個大個子了。ESPN
把他排在這些大個子後面: Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, Dirk Nowitzki, Andrew 
Bynum, Blake Griffin, Pau Gasol, Chris Bosh, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin 
Garnett, Tyson Chandler 和 Marc Gasol。這排名應該不會受到太多質疑，至少”
Duncan已經比不上巔峰時期”這幾年來已經不是新聞了。

I think it is agreed by all parties that we as Spurs fans must fall in line
with what those in the know have told us repeatedly: Tim Duncan is pretty
much done. With that in mind, I'll have to be a little harsher than usual in
my assessment for the YCDB post on Tim. And so, for each dimension of
Duncan's game I analyze, I will choose one of the players that the panel
ranked above him to be considered his mentor in that part of the game. That
way, in case the supposed future Hall of Famer is actually committed to
improving his play, he'll have someone to look to as an example. So, let's
examine at Tim's rebounding, offense and defense.

我們馬刺迷們總是一再告訴自己:Duncan已經貢獻太多了。這回我決定嚴格一點，分析了
Duncan的比賽以後，我會在各個方面將他和排在他前面的人做比較。如果這位準名人堂球
星還可以進步的話，他將成為球員們的典範。

Rebounding
Tim Duncan would do well to rebound the ball better (otherwise the Spurs
should never have waived Eddy Curry) as the numbers clearly show that he's
not a good producer in this category -- he placed only 3rd in defensive
rebound percentage in the league, behind Howard and Marcus Camby. And did no
better than 9th overall in total rebound percentage. Per 36 minutes, he
ranked no higher than 8th in the league in total rebounds with 11.5. Elite
players should certainly rank higher. For any who argue that these numbers
are impressive for any player, regardless of age. They must note that he
ranks low in securing offensive boards, and those are the ones that count.
That's why guys that are near the top in that category, like Tristan Thompson
and DeMarcus Cousins have led their teams to such success and acclaim.

籃板
Duncan如果能保護好籃板球會更好(不然馬刺也不會放掉E.Curry)，從數據來看並不是很
漂亮，他的防守籃板比率在全聯盟排第三(僅次於D.Howard和M.Camby) 
總籃板率排第九，每36分鐘平均11.5個籃板排第8。一個頂尖的球員應該要排更前面才對
。
How can he improve?
What Timmy has to do: don't get back on D like Pop wants; stay behind
gambling for those sexy offensive rebounds.
Mentor: Dirk Nowitzki (11.3 TRB% on 2011/12; 12.9% for his career). If you
want to learn how to affect the game with rebounding, you go to the Big
German.

他要如何進步?
Duncan需要怎麼做?不要照著POPO說的急於回防，試著賭博式地搶抓進攻籃板
學習對象:Nowitki(上季總籃板率11.3% 生涯12.9%) 如果你想學習怎麼靠籃板影響比賽，
像這個德國大個學習吧!

Offense
Tim Duncan used to be one of the best scoring big men in the league, but now
he struggles mightily. Did you see his field goal percentage? It was the
lowest it had been since the 1999-2000 season, back when he was scoring 23
points per game, and not the measly 15 points he contributed last season.
Think about that: just 15 points per game. If that doesn't prove Tim's
offense has slipped, I don't know what does. Some are sure to point to his
per 36 minutes total of 20 points, and explain how that number is consistent
with his career numbers. But those are the same people who argue that the
biggest factor in his declining numbers is minutes. To that I say that Pop
has been judged the best coach in the league. If Tim was a better option,
he'd certainly be on the court more often.

進攻
Duncan曾經是全聯盟得分能力最好的大個子之一，但現在他面臨很大的挫折。你有注意到
他上季的命中率嗎?自1999-2000球季以來最低耶，而且他那季可是平均每場得23分，而不
是上季不到15分。想一想吧! 平均一場比賽得15分還不足以說明Duncan的得分能力在走下
坡嗎? 有些人會說他平均每36分鐘還是可以得20分左右啊! 跟他的生涯平均值相去並不遠
。那我這麼說吧! 聯盟最佳教練POPO如果認為Duncan仍是最佳得分選擇，他上場時間還會
這麼少嗎? 

Per Synergy Sports, Duncan's field goal percentage for his shots at the rim
is a below average number 63, and he ranks just 71st in post ups. Which means
that in his old age, he's being forced by his slipping skills to become a
jump shooter. Once the greatest post player of his generation, Duncan has
decided to avoid the high quality post possessions to take jumpers like a
soft, vintage-Euro big. What a waste. While his shooting percentage on
jumpers is considered enviable by some, but there are better shooting bigs.
In fact 6 centers shoot better from 10-15 feet and their average is 1.9 shots
a game to Tim's 1.7. The numbers speak for themselves. From further out, Tim
ranked behind three other players (yes, he was only 4th) from 16-23 feet
among centers, but he also shot far more often than anyone in the top ten, so
that's likely what accounts for it. If you give weight to the propaganda that
Duncan has cooperated with his entire career and classify him as a power
forward, you will see that a full seven players performed better from 16-23
feet and four bested him from 10-15. So Duncan isn't the best shooting big
man in the league. To argue otherwise would be to oppose the facts themselves.

Duncan在籃框附近的命中率是比聯盟平均低的63% 背框單打則排第71。這表示他年紀大了
被迫轉型成一個射手，這位曾是一世低位單打的高手也選擇減少高強度的碰撞，而轉型成
歐洲型的射手大個子。浪費啊! 儘管他的投籃命中率是不錯，但還是有比他準的大個子。
事實上有6位中鋒在10-15呎的投籃優於Duncan，在16-23呎則有3位勝過他，但他的出手數
卻比他們都多。什麼? 你說Duncan明明就是大前鋒!!! 好，但他在10-15呎和16-23呎仍然
排名大前鋒的第8和第5。所以說Duncan不是聯盟最準的大個子，你還想反駁那可能是自打
嘴巴。

How can he improve?
He could take more shots close to the basket and get his FG% up, since that's
what it's all about, surely. Some would point out that he's the best jump
shooting big the Spurs have and their only pick and pop threat, but quibbles
like that don't even deserve a response. If all fails, he must to convince
Gregg Popovich to play him more minutes.
Mentor: A workout with Tyson Chandler (4.7 attempts per game at the rim, 0.9
FGA from everywhere else, combined; 12.2 points per 36 minutes) could help
Tim return to his previous versatility on offense.

如何改進?
他可以盡量靠近籃框出手以提高命中率。有些人會指出Duncan是馬刺跳投能力最好的大個
子，也是擋拆戰術的最大威脅，但是事實勝於雄辯! 如果他們說的是對的，那POPO怎麼不
讓他上場久些?
學習對象: 像T.Chandler(平均每場在籃框附近出手4.7次 只有0.9次在別處 平均每36分
鐘得12.2分)學習可以讓Duncan重返禁區多元得分手之名。

Defense
I consider the following to be self-evident: Duncan is slow. He has slimmed
down, can't defend the post, and is not nearly the defensive paragon he was
in his youth. Some concede the point that he's not as good as he used to be,
only to profess that Duncan appears to have slipped so much only because he
was just so, so good in the past. They claim that Timmy can still anchor a
good defense. Make no mistake: those people are wrong. Perhaps the Spurs
allowed 5.42 fewer points per 100 possessions with him on the court, but
that's probably a fluke. You can make number say anything you want to, you
know. In the playoffs, that differential went to 17.28 points, but that's
likely just because the bench was so bad.

防守
我覺得我接下來說的是可以自證的: Duncan很慢，他減輕了重量，因此他無法抵住禁區了
，也不再是過去的禁區防守悍將了。有些人說Duncan只是沒有過去那麼強，但這只能表達
他過去有多厲害而已。你們還要說Duncan仍然可以設下良好的防守嗎? 大錯特錯! 儘管
Duncan在場上時馬刺的對手平均100次球權少得5.42分，也許是湊巧，到了季後賽更是來
到17.28分，但這也可以用板凳太爛來解釋。

I am compelled to admit that Duncan only allowed opposing centers a below
average 14.1 PER while he had a 22.8 PER himself, which is good for a 8.7
differential. Also he looks great out there, often providing a game-changing
defensive presence. But let's not let numbers, on court impact or how he
looks when he's on the floor get in the way of a good narrative. Tim just
ain't what he used to be, and there's no getting around it.

我不得不承認Duncan防守的中鋒效率值只有低於平均的14.1，而他自己則有22.8，有8.7
的分差，這是很棒的，有時候甚至能影響比賽的勝負，但這數字不能證明什麼，Duncan已
經不是以前的他了。

How can he improve?
Timmeh needs to get mean, like Garnett. Pound his chest and bark at people to
show his defensive intensity. Don't stay in perfect position to contest and
rebound; just go for the block. That's what Marcus Camby used to do and it
won him a DPOY award. It's hard to argue with success of that kind.
Mentor: Chris Bosh (0.99 on/off defensive rating differential, 1.77 defensive
plays [steals+block+charges drawn] per game to Duncan's 2.31) could teach Tim
a thing or two about defensive impact.

如何改進?
Duncan需要更兇狠，像KG那樣，槌自己的胸或向對手大吼以虛張聲勢。不要一直卡位對抗
或搶籃板，多蓋火鍋吧! Camby就是這樣奪下年度最佳防守球員的。這方面的成就是很難
否定的。
學習對象:Bosh 可以教Duncan多些防守方面的衝擊。

Everything else
Let me be blunt: Duncan needs to improve on everything. Some might say he's
still one of the most versatile players ever, or that he's good in every
facet of the game. I'm here to tell you that's just an illusion; he's simply
not a complete center (or power forward, for that matter) and that is what
separates him from the men the esteemed panel ranked above him. I mean, it's
not like his numbers in steal percentage, block percentage, assist percentage
and rebound percentage put him in rarefied company, or anything.

其他:
我直截了當的說 : Duncan所有的地方都要加強，有人又要說Duncan仍是最全面的球員，
或是Duncan在每方面都做得很好。我告訴你吧! 那是幻覺啊! 孩子!!!
他甚至不是個完整的中鋒(好啦 又有人要說他是大前鋒了 隨便啦) 而這也是他的排名前
面會有這麼多人的原因。無論哪個排名都是如此。

An argument could be made that Duncan is still elite. Some of these numbers
and how he played last season could possibly suggest that he might be. But a
large portion of the media is claiming otherwise and I find it impossible to
disagree with them. After all, the media always gave Tim the respect and
admiration he deserved in the past, almost to a fault. If we're being fair,
it should be said that the press over-hyped him every chance they got, while
ignoring more worthy players like Vince Carter and giving Tim too much
publicity. So now it's Duncan's time to finally be overlooked. Let some other
guys get the legacy talk and redemption story arcs while he is relegated as
being just another big man. I'm sure he deserves nothing more.

又有人要爭論Duncan仍然是很出色的，這些數據不代表他下季也是如此。我發現我沒辦法
反駁，因為大部分的媒體都這樣說。畢竟媒體總是對Duncan有很崇高的敬意，以及過去以
來的敬佩，這都導致了錯誤。如果我們能公平地看，Duncan其實被高估了，我們總會對
Vince Carter有偏見，而對Tim Duncan太耐斯。來看看這兩篇文(Nowitzki和KG的報導)，
把Duncan和他們並駕齊驅真是太抬舉他了吧!

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※ 編輯: ParkerWind      來自: 111.253.223.192      (10/29 01:10)
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