作者yyjack (小虎)
看板Timberwolves
標題[灌水] Post game thought (vs ROCKETS )
時間Wed Feb 1 20:56:41 2012
原文網址:
http://punchdrunkwolves.com/2012/01/31/the-big-3-wolves-120-rockets-108/
這是一篇關於昨天對火箭的賽後評論 (基本上這個作者每場比賽都會寫一大篇心得),
絕大多數我都非常認同,所以貼出來討論討論
順便簡單提幾個我自己的觀點:(後來發現打太多,其他點以後有時間再提XD)
1.
我從不掩飾對B-Easy的喜愛,從進NBA以來一直強調他是真貨也是讓我被打臉打最慘的
一個..
這一場比賽,絕對是他到灰狼以來打得最棒一場(去年跟連結大概看一半,今年買NBA.TV
至今每場都看完整場),重點不是他得幾分、命中率多高(能這麼高也是夠嚇人了),而是
絕大多數得分都是"融入"的transition中的結果,絕少看到勉強的出手,也可能是今天
防守他的對手能力不足
今天的切入或跳投時在幾乎沒有碰到阻礙,都做得很輕鬆。一上就吃布丁狗吃夠夠,接
下來派Parsons還是Lee都已經沒法度了。如果"光看"這場比賽還說B-Easy在敗球或
ball movement stopper實在有失公道
腳傷回來以後B-Easy這兩場在場上融入程度進步很多,這樣的命中率不會是常態,只能
希望如此順暢的進攻節奏不會是曇花一現,套一句在網站上看到的話:如果在Rubio+Love
為主體絕佳的團隊合作之外,再多一個可以一刀斃命的攻擊武器B-easy,灰狼會更加難
以阻擋
我非常嚮往像老國王or太陽那種流暢的團隊進攻,不過在我的認知中,有了Rubio當指
揮,就算全隊都會傳球,還是需要一個能獨立進攻的Finisher,國王有Webber(好啦,
這也很會傳)、太陽有阿嬤,我不會把B-Easy直接對比這麼高等級,或是灰狼未來的
the one,但他就是"現在"球員名單上的的那個人
防守方面,這季B-Easy已經進步很多(不代表已經及格),第一場對雷霆守Durant最讓我
滿意,接下來有時恍神的情況還是不時發生,總之就看矮豆人怎麼調教吧~我是傾向給
他這季證明自己,是龍是蛇就看他怎麼吸收老教頭的教化了
我一直對版友對B-Easy的耐心感到有點不解,他比Wes還年輕16個月!怎麼得到的容忍程
度會差這麼多
2.
Web回來以後除了進攻,更讓人驚喜的是防守上帶來的幫助,他在SG跟Wes一樣有length、
有運動力。
跟原本的矮小後場組合Luke Ridnour(對湖人竟然守到慈世界…@_@)+Wayne Ellington,
是很大的升級,這裡我也同意作者的觀點,如果Web的背爭氣一點,先發位置遲早會是他
的,除非矮豆人要繼續用先發來養Wes
又來個年齡比較:Web其實只比Wes大6個月…..
3.
Wes的狀況,之前有一堆討論就不多說了,從入選以來我對他的要求就不算高,做好防守
跟把握外線空檔,但……請繼續加油
防守方面,我看到有個數據提到,本季當Wes不在場上時,灰狼團隊每100 min的失分下
降多達18.2分,也是全隊最差最多的一個 (別問我為什麼,當我看到這個數據也感到很
意外),總之,或許灰狼的新秀第二年如果不受傷就是得上場上接受砥礪與折磨,Rubio
你明年一定要撐住阿~~
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The early season narrative for the TWolves has been that Ricky Rubio and
Kevin Love are amazing players who need some help. Other starting players,
most notably Wesley Johnson and Darko Milicic, have failed to provide
meaningful production or consistent play that breeds any confidence in the
two stars’supporting cast.
Michael Beasley led last year’s team in scoring per minute (21.4 per 36;
19.2 per game) but didn’t make himself many fans after ankle sprains on each
leg derailed what looked like a promising season. In 73 games, he surpassed
30 points 8 times, and 40 points once. But the way he scored those points,
often isolation sets with some ball-stoppage, isn’t popular or always fun to
watch. Also, and much more significantly if we’re being fair, his defense was
often times lazy and always incoherent. A plausible retort to this would be
that he was simply “joining the club” of Rambis-coached wings who had no
idea how to rotate defensively. Beasley had serious flaws to be addressed if
he were going to be an impact player on an up-and-coming team led by Rubio and
Love.
This season, some fans and analysts expected a breakout year from Supercool
Mike, both because of Rubio’s playmaking but more so because Rick Adelman
would devise schemes to get him the ball closer to the hoop. A problem with
the Rambis triangle was that it often resorted to clearing out for Mike 24 feet
from the basket for everyone else to stand and watch. This wasn’t good for
Mike’s efficiency or the Timberwolves win/loss record. In the early going
this year, he showed flashes of improved play.
His defense was been better. Night and day. He’s played respectable defense
on LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and even Kobe Bryant. If you watched
Wellington try to guard Kevin Martin (or if you remember the days of Shaddy
McCants trying to defend Baron Davis or LBJ) you’ve seen an outmatched
defender in a Wolves uniform. This is not Michael Beasley. If he’s focused
and coached, he’s an adequate-or-better defensive wing. His shot was colder
than we’ve ever seen it in the early going. He put together stinkers of 11-27,
2-6, 5-16, and 4-12 before spraining his foot and missing the next 11 games.
It should be noted that the Wolves were probably playing their best basketball
in that early going against a brutal schedule. They trounced the Spurs and
Mavs (with Dirk, unlike the second time they beat them without Mike) and held
late-game leads on title-favorites OKC and Miami. But Mike needed his shot to
fall like it used to before things could really take off for he and the team.
Of course, the schedule weakened right around the time of the injury and the
team ripped off an 11-game stretch of over-.500 basketball, going 6-5. THEY'RE
BETTER WITHOUT BEASLEY! LOOK AT THE BALL MOVEMENT! Only, if you watched the
Toronto or Atlanta games, you saw what happened against a respectable foe when
the game slowed down and shot creating became a necessity. The Wolves have
exactly one shot creator on the team, and he was sidelined for those games.
You might also look at those 6 wins and notice that they came against either
garbage competition (Wizards, Hornets, Kings, Pistons) or good teams that were
without future Hall of Famers (Clippers without Chris Paul, Mavericks without
Dirk Nowitzki). The record was inflated by an easy schedule. Despite what
some desperately wanted to believe, the team was NOT better without its best
scorer.
Fast forward to tonight’s game at Houston. The Rockets (who recently spanked
the Mike-less Wolves at Target Center) held a mighty 9-2 home record heading
into this game. Minnesota had no rest, traveling overnight into Houston after
a hard-fought loss against LA. Houston rested last night in their beds at
home. This was not a game the Wolves should have won.
Oh, but they did win, and they pummeled the Rockets behind Mike Beasley’s 34
points on 14 shots. Mike had his jumper going, his dribble penetration game
going, and he was getting to the line where he hit all 12 attempts. His monster
scoring performance led the way in this one, increasing the lead throughout the
second half. The Ricky & Love show became a Minnesota Big 3, as Rubio damn-near
f'd around and got a triple double (18 points, 11 assists, 8 rebounds) and Love
added 29 & 7 of his own.
Is Mike going to score like this every night? Of course not. But he will some
nights, and on those nights Minnesota will be almost unbeatable. When he’s
clanking shot after shot? Sit him down, or watch Kevin Love collect rebounds.
Beasley draws extra defenders, a skill that doesn’t show up in a box score but
is essential to consistently-successful offense in the NBA. He also complements
the team’s best players by adding a skill that neither possesses: a dominant
one-on-one game that will foul out opponents, allow teammates to get some rest
on offense, and challenge opposing coaches into lineup decisions they might not
prefer.
I hope this isn’t a one-game fluke, and an amazing coach like Adelman can draw
as much of Beasley’s natural talent as is possible. He’s a restricted free
agent this off-season and the forward duo lauded by John Hollinger last year
could be really something, especially with the Spanish floor general leading
the way.
Some additional thoughts:
* Martell Webster’s feisty defense in the second quarter turned the game. He
plays D on a slightly-different level than his teammates. Watch a Memphis
Grizzlies game for comparable effort and approach. This is an asset, for
sure, especially from a guy that the team can afford to get in foul trouble
(because he will, if he plays this way). Webster should be the starting
shooting guard very soon. Let’s all hope his back stays healthy. No more
of these.
* Derrick Williams is frozen out of the rotation. TRADE DERRICK WILLIAMS will
become a common meme. That could be wise, depending on the deal, but let’s
not lose sight of the talent here, and how similarly-awesome college players
with talent took their licks en route to NBA improvement. James Harden and
Evan Turner took time to adjust, as Williams will. Biggest reasons for NOT
trading him:
(1) He’s on the rookie scale; and (2) He’s insurance against Love getting
injured or Love bolting after 3 years. If he continues to improve as a
power forward, and he will, those are not insignificant factors. A shooting
guard can be signed in free agency this off-season, if need be.
* Kyle Lowry versus Ricky Rubio could be an All-Star debate in the next few
years. Lowry bested him at Target Center, and Ricky took this match. Very
different players. Very good players.
Season Record: 10-11
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推 kawo:B-easy天花板高也年輕一點 但是太多素行不良 還有那個屌臉XD 02/01 21:08
→ kawo:看到臉我常常會覺得B-easy根本沒認真 但是WES那個囧臉至少 02/01 21:09
→ kawo:還蠻有說服力的..在場上專心程度裡 02/01 21:09
→ kawo:而且就算這場 B-easy依舊是ball move stoper只差他投不投得進 02/01 21:11
推 JUSTINJUSTIN:但這場他出手比以往都果決多了,不會看到明明三分大 02/01 21:28
→ JUSTINJUSTIN:空檔卻硬要往裡頭運個兩下或是自殺上籃,這感覺差很 02/01 21:29
→ JUSTINJUSTIN:多啊...希望不是曇花一現 02/01 21:29
推 sato111:這兩場Beasley已經比之前改善了不少,可能慧根開啟了 02/01 21:39
→ sato111:WES也艱艱有所進展,脫離不少稚嫩的表現,持續期待 02/01 21:42
→ sato111:WEB就真的只要他健康的話,他是能拉出很多上場時間的 02/01 21:44
推 sato111:就現在來說任何球員能打出來都算是個甜蜜的負擔 02/01 22:21
推 badavan:正面思考 他跟盧小比跟愛逗的起來 挺可怖的 看明天對溜馬 02/01 22:22
推 sato111:溜馬真是隻迷一樣的完整球隊,會不會勝利要憑運氣啦XD 02/01 22:27
→ sato111:明天球隊將要穿著Minnesota Muskies隊的球衣上場比賽 02/01 22:27
→ yyjack:說臉的就不評論了..至少這季B-Easy在場上認真許多 無持球 02/01 22:45
→ yyjack:跑動只能期望這兩場的表現真的是開慧根了 02/01 22:46
→ yyjack:重點不在他投不投的進,重點在他的出手一點都不勉強 02/01 22:46
→ yyjack:這跟以前的狀況差距很大 大部分在傳導下出現的出手空檔 02/01 22:51
→ yyjack:每次進攻傳導總要有人做finish吧~如果LOVE每次pick & pop 02/01 22:54
→ yyjack:在3分空檔出手,會說他是ball move stoper嗎 02/01 22:55
推 wed3qla:我覺得beasley光頭造型還挺帥的啊 哈 02/01 23:06
推 sato111:也許是新教練與Rubio的加入使得滯球的程度減低不少 02/02 00:02
→ sato111:至少這就只是兩場好球而已,持續看著也許能獲得不少觀改 02/02 00:06
推 kawo:就是因為他拿到球就一定要拿起來看看能不能打掉 然後才考慮 02/02 00:24
→ kawo:轉移、隊友的空檔等 所以才說他ball move stopper呀 02/02 00:25
→ kawo:當然他的工作主要是finish 但是他的轉移真的慢又不穩 02/02 00:25
推 kawo:而且重點是「這只是一場的表現」 之前那個爛到爆的B-easy 02/02 00:30
→ kawo:和這個威到爆的B-easy 究竟哪個才是真貨 還得看下去XD 02/02 00:31
推 illidan23:好文推 02/02 00:32
→ yyjack:看來是我跟K大定義上的不同 我認為movement stopper是中斷 02/02 00:51
→ yyjack:球的流動,而非像B-Easy這場或Love之前那樣做個finisher 02/02 00:52
推 kawo:應該只是我們兩個人在認知的程度上有差異而已啦XD 02/02 01:26
→ kawo:就算是隊上的finisher 也不可能球球到你手上都是你打掉呀 02/02 01:26
→ kawo:B-easy出手果決 但是轉移球時就有些不乾不脆跟隨意 02/02 01:28
→ kawo:所以才會說他是ball move stopper 他的TO可是比ASSIST多... 02/02 01:28
→ kawo:生涯沒有一年的助攻比失誤多 以鋒線3號來說也是頗神 02/02 01:38
推 duke7814:Wes會比B-easy還得球迷愛很正常 因為Wes是我們自己選的.. 02/02 10:02
推 blur13:因為血統QQ 02/03 02:53
→ yyjack:難怪我對Wes沒啥特別感覺,因為我一直認為該選的是表弟XDD 02/03 10:31
推 tiberian:光看湖人那場Beasy轉移球到挺乾脆的 檔拆處理也進步 02/03 10:58
→ tiberian:但他人在弱邊像個散仙的毛病(不論攻守)還是在啊= = 02/03 11:04
→ tiberian:防守上1vs1一般般 幫忙防守就有點不知道在幹嘛了 02/03 11:07
→ tiberian:守區防來他的問題會小一點,教練仍需改正他的不良習慣 02/03 11:11
→ tiberian:Web的體能不錯 但橫移並不是太好 BEASY WEB WES共通優 02/03 11:14
→ tiberian:點在於衝搶籃板的積極性 02/03 11:17
推 sato111:雖然WES打得這麼掙扎,但是Syracuse的戰績還是很強勢XD 02/03 21:46