Re: [爆料] 太陽的都很能射 進阿爵能射的也會變不能射

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剛好看到一篇在討論太陽隊的進攻


-Bill Bridge-
<The Suns is a Phoenix>

因為原文有點長,我大致簡短翻一下.翻錯請見諒.<(_ _)>

Most pundits have been surprised by the Sun’s success this year. These are the
same pundits that picked the Lakers to finish 8th or out of the playoffs in
07/08. Of course the Lakers made it to the NBA finals. I’ve watched most of
the Suns games this year and their success is not a shock to me. This is the
best Suns team since Nash has been in Phoenix.

一堆權威人士驚訝今年太陽的表現.這批人在07/08球季也說湖人應該是吊車尾進季後賽.
不過湖人那年打進總冠軍賽了.今年太陽的表現對我(作者)來說不意外.這支太陽隊是自
從Nash在之後的最佳隊型.
(一不小心就翻太多了.....)

Last year, they had the wrong or new personnel playing in the wrong system for
the wrong coach. Yet, they barely missed the playoffs. This year the wrong
personnel  (Shaq) is gone, the new are now familiar, and the right coach who is
Mike D’Antoni 2 , except this one also coaches defense.

去年不對的人不對的系統所以沒了季後賽.Shaq走了,鳥教練掰掰,來了Mike D'Antoni 2世
.不過現在這位也有在教防守.

The most successful Suns team is the 06/07 team that made it to the WCSF and
lost to the Spurs. The team won 61 games in the regular season and started
Nash, Bell, Diaw, Marion, and Stoudemire. The bench consisted of Kurt Thomas
and Barbosa. No other player got any meaningful minutes.

最成功的太陽隊是06/07球季,他們打進了西區準決賽,最後輸給了馬刺.季賽拿下61勝,先
發陣容為Nash,Bell,Diaw,Marion和Stoudemire.板凳有Kurt Thomas和Barbosa.其他請自
動忽略.

This team is an upgrade at every position except perhaps PF.  New Amare is
better (especially on defense) than the old Amare. Hill looks like the one that
played in Detroit and is significant upgrade to Diaw. Nash is still Nash –
 except this one seems to have a healthier back. Jason Richardson is playing
like Andrew Toney. Marion is better than Fry. But Fry might be a better fit.

現在得太陽除了大前鋒外,其他的位置都升級了.新的Amare(在防守面)比舊的Amare好.
Hill跟在Detroit打球沒兩樣,當然他比Diaw要好.Nash還是那個Nash,不過背部比較好點.
J-Rich就像是Anrew Toney.不過Marion是比Frye優秀,但是Frye可能會比較適合喔.

It is the bench that is the most drastic difference. Whereas D’Antoni didn’t
trust his bench and played 7 deep the entire season. Gentry’s bench is deep
and productive. Barbosa might now be the 7th or 8th man behind Amundson and
Dudley (one of my new “Favourite Players not on the Lakers”). Dragic is the
best Slovenian PG in the NBA and Robin Lopez has yet to play who brings their
only size off the bench. Amundson is like David Lee who plays Defense.  Barbosa
might have lost something but is still very dangerous.

板凳差最多,D'Antoni喜歡演白雪公主跟七個小矮人.Gentry的可用之兵就多太多了.
Barbosa可能都要退到Amundson和Dudley之後的第七人或是第八人來使用.Dragic則是
斯洛維尼亞最佳後衛,Robin Lopez的體型就擺在那.Amundson有著David Lee般的防守.
Barbosa可能會少了點什麼,可是他還是個危險傢伙.

On offense this team has versatility missing on previous teams. Not a single
player on the old team had a reliable post game. (Diaw was the closest; but
whereas he had the skills, he lacked the will). That team was exclusively based
on high screen-roll. Stoudemire picks for Nash, rolls to the hoop or pops. Nash
passes to Stoudemire, or dribbles closer either for his own shot or a kick out
to a shooter. Deadly efficient at the pace they played but still predictable;
and in a playoff series, ultimately stoppable.

進攻可就多元了.舊的太陽沒一個可以打低位的(Diaw有點像啦,可是他打低位就會讓其他
優勢不見).以前的太陽需要一直在高位擋拆.Nash+Stoudemire進進出出,不然就Nash帶深
一點然後投球或是傳給射手.夭壽般的效率,可是是很好猜的,這種打法在季後賽就沒招了

Now, this team runs a variant of the triangle/Princeton sets and posts up
Richardson (and less frequently Hill) on the left block. They are good enough
from the post to draw doubles and are very good at kicking it out for open 3’s.

現在到有一點Triangle/Princeton的味道,J-Rich會在左邊要位單打(偶而是Hill).他們
都可以吸引到包夾,然後馬上傳給三分線外空檔的人.


There is some truth to the statement that some of the Sun’s success is due to
the unfamiliarity of most teams to playing against a team with such pace. But
of course, if pace alone were the determining factor, the Warriors would also
be successful.

不過也跟大部分的球隊不習慣太陽這種打法有關,可是事情有那麼簡單的話,阿勇士咧?

They shoot the 3 at 48%. Unheard of.  Such efficiency is a product of good
shooters getting open looks from their favourite spots in rhythm. Disrupt any
of these factors and the percentage drops. These open looks in rhythm come in 3
primary ways.

48%三分球命中率.這種數據大概是好射手+大空檔+最愛的位置才會出現.拿掉其中一項就
會讓命中率下降.他們的空檔主要來自三個部份.

1. Nash penetration. Usually to his left. Swing out with his left hand to the
right corner 3. Or a further swing from the corner to the key and wing for open
3’s

1. Nash超會滲透.通常他都切左邊,然後用左手傳到右邊三分球的角落,不然就從角落那邊
   切然後找到空檔的人.

2. Kick out from left block by Richardson or Hill after a double. Usually to
the right wing to Frye/other shooter for open 3

2. J-Rich或Hill在左邊被包夾後的分球.通常都會傳給右翼的Frye或其他人來投三分.

3. PUJIT – no need to say more

3. PUJIT 沒啥好講的(.........這我剛好不知道是啥)

Unlike most right handed players, Nash tends to penetrate going left. This is
function of two factors,

為什麼Nash跟一般的右撇不一樣咧~有兩點:

- Amare tends to pick to Nash’s left – this naturally leads to his rolling
from the right side or popping for a shot on the right and Amare is a strong
right-handed player.

- Amare是擋在Nash的左邊 - 所以他檔完會往右跑不然就是在那邊投中距離,Amare是個
超愛用右手的球員

- Nash has a deadly jumpshot off the dribble to the right. He is not nearly as
comfortable shooting over his right shoulder.

- Nash 運到右邊後的三分球命中率有點囧.他現在的肩膀投三分不像以前那麼輕鬆了.


(以下談的是怎麼對付太陽我就不翻了...)

So force Nash to the right to discourage penetration and live with the jump
shots.

Do not double the post player. Force Richardson and Hill to make the turnaround
J. They can make this shot but perhaps not as well against Kobe and Artest. A
contested turn around from the block has a much lower EFG% than an open 3 (76%
for the Suns – crazy!), and much easier to rebound.


The Lakers can minimize the PUJIT by being disciplined on offense; limiting
turnovers and trying to have the Suns begin their break by taking the ball out
of bounds each and every possession.

The Suns also are very good at swarming the post causing turnovers. Bynum and
Kobe will have to be mindful of this when they get the ball. As a side note, in
Jared Dudley the Suns have possibly the best or second best post defender at
the guard position. Kobe will have to work harder to establish position and get
the ball. Dudley is extremely good at fronting his player and denying the pass.
The huge advantage Kobe has with other teams who have guards that treat the
paint like alien territory is not there against Phoenix.

The Nash/Amare screen roll is probably the most devastating single play in the
NBA. You have to try to get Amare to pick to Nash’s right than left. Much like
Denver tried to disrupt the Kobe/Gasol screen roll by severely shading to Kobe’
s right forcing Gasol to pick to Kobe’s left, the Lakers have to do the
opposite. Shade Nash severely to the left to force Amare to pick to Nash’s
right. This impedes Nash’s penetration, and forces Amare to begin rolling or
shoot from a less comfortable position of the left side of the lane. If Frye is
screening, I’d go under the screen so that Frye’s man can stay with him. Frye
doesn’t roll and will drift to the three point line looking for the drop off
from Nash. Of course you leave an open 3 to Nash – but you always give up
something to take away something.

What a terrific game so early in the season. This game will test the Laker’s
weaknesses this year. They will have to control the defensive boards (the
Lakers are the worst in the league), not turn the ball over, make the proper
rotations to cover the weak side three point shooter, and run a disciplined
offense to control the tempo. All doable but challenging.


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