作者piatigorsky (Romanes eunt domus)
看板Violin
標題Re: [問題] 請問巴哈無伴奏裡的某些演奏法
時間Mon Nov 7 12:49:35 2005
※ 引述《jeveux (violon)》之銘言:
: Baroque橋一樣有幅度, 一樣要用Arppegio方式拉奏和弦
Sorry, can't type Chinese right now.
The Baroque bridge did have a curve, albeit somewhat smaller than modern
types, but the Baroque bow was also different. Bows before ca. 1800 were
convex (ie. the bow was bent outward, as opposed to our modern bows), and
the modern frog and screw mechanism hadn't been perfected yet, which resulted
in a more laxed tension of the hairs. The Tourte bow, precursor of our modern
bows, wasn't perfected until around 1820. (Contemporary art bears witness to these
characteristics, as in the portraits of Mozart and his father, and the very
famous portrait of cellist Luigi Boccherini.) Because of the different
curvature of both the bridge and bow, and the more relaxed tension of the bow
hairs, it was possible to play three or four strings simultaneously. This is
what Albert Schweitzer tried to recreate on the modern violin by his "Bach-
Bogen", which has an extremely exaggerated curve.
However, all of this is yet further complicated by performance styles: even
though the Baroque violin and bow were capable of playing mutiple notes at
the same time, in many cases there was a tendency to play chords arpeggiated.
This, however, is much too complicated to discuss here. I believe that we
could resort to our own ears and judgement; personally, listening to the
Ciaccona of the second Partita played with the Bach-Bogen reassures me of the
belief that, at least this piece sounds best when every note is sustained.
: 除此之外, Bach有些和弦的寫法是一定不能同時按四個音的
: 如果各位想要深入了解這些問題
: 請參考Joel Lester的書
: "Bach's works for solo violin"
: 去PageOne買的到
All in all, this is a very complicated problem, since even at that time there
were many different styles of playing. However, I find it both interesting and
illuminating, and although it might not be possible for a satisfying
conclusion to be reached, this topic is definitely worthy of discussion.
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→ porcupine:剛考完英文期中考就看到這個…讓我死了吧orz 11/07 14:30
推 moonshade:大意是說巴洛克弓是彎的,所以可以拉到,他覺得全拉 11/07 16:23
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