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※ 引述《chronodl (世界就在我眼前)》之銘言: : 以下是一個有問題的論證: : Anselm’s Second Version of the Ontological Argument : 1.By definition, God is a being than which none greater can be imagined. : 2.A being that necessarily exists in reality is greater than a being that : does not necessarily exist. : 3.Thus, by definition, if God exists as an idea in the mind but does not : necessarily exist in reality, then we can imagine something that is greater : than God. : 4.But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God. : 5.Thus, if God exists in the mind as an idea, then God necessarily exists in : reality. : 6.God exists in the mind as an idea. : 7.Therefore, God necessarily exists in reality. 錯誤在於: 若P則Q 若Q則R P是存在 Q是完美 R是上帝 它定義若Q則R 故得證 若P則R Gaunilo’s Criticism就是指出R可以由別的取代 Gaunilo是用一個島 所以定義若Q則I 得到若P則I 無論我們怎麼定義: 若Q則X X可以是A~Z 我們都可得到 若P則A~Z 所以說Ontological Argument是一個無效論證 好像是循環論證中的begging the question -- "若你不打算持有某隻股票達十年,則十分鐘也不要持有。" "如果股市可以用理論去有效分析,我早就變成路邊的流浪漢了。 股神 巴菲特 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 1.162.74.234