作者starfury (紅茶與西洋棋)
看板Warfare
標題Re: [轉錄][笑話] 英國人是如何損法國人的
時間Thu Oct 8 19:15:01 2009
剛剛在The Times的線上新聞看到這則報導
正好底下有英國鄉民第一手的回應
茲抄錄幾則以娛板眾
這則新聞即前陣子,索馬利亞海盜誤挑上一艘法國軍艦踢到鐵板
The Times的標題及內容也頗中規中矩:
"Pirates choose wrong target - a French warship"
精彩的是下面網友的回應
- Sarath Palety wrote:
Perhaps the pirates thought that the French warship would surrender?
(譯:大概海盜認為法國佬會投降?)
- Alex Morris wrote:
Harry Key
What's stupid about commenting on the surrender prospects of a vessel
that originates from a country with form for surrendering when they
really didn't need to?
(譯:對Harry Key的回應 -- 對於一艘來自一個隨便投降的國家的船艦,說他
們搞不好會投降有錯嗎?)
- Sam C wrote:
It was not an unreasonable assumption on the part of the Somali pirates
that a French naval vessel would run up the white flag. The only
surprising thing about this story is that they did not, perhaps the
pirates just got there first
(譯:猜測法國船會昇白旗繞跑一點都不會不合理,這條新聞最令人驚訝的是,
法國佬並沒這麼作)
然後有個稍微有良知的「正義之士」唱反調了...
- Dan Spencer wrote:
Thats a stupid thing to say. The French were for long periods the most
powerful country in Europe. The only two times they have surrendered
were in 1871 and 1940, on both occasions they were clearly defeated.
If it wasn't for our good fortune on living on an island we would have
been conquered many times by our continental enemies. Besides the
French have shown considerably more backbone in dealing with these
pirates than our own navy has.
I have an MA in History btw.
(譯:你們這麼說很蠢。法國長期以來都是歐陸強權。唯一兩次投降是在1871及
1940年,那兩次他們是真的被完全擊敗了。如果不是我們好運活在一個島上,
我們早被歐陸的敵人踏平好幾次了。更何況我覺得在處理那些海盜問題方面,
法國人比我們的海軍還有骨氣多了。
我可是有一個歷史碩士學位的。)
然後這位老兄就被其他鄉民同胞圍剿了。
例如:
- John Julius wrote:
Dan Spencer,
France has a very poor military history. Even the French themslves
admit it - I remember a French historian in a documentary saying, in sum,
that the French don't 'do' war - they specialise in other things.
And it's true - the French are far superior to us in certain ways, but
to suggest they are our equal on the battlefield is plain loopy. Almost
as loopy as saying a couple of miles of water are they only reason we
havn't been invaded for almost 1000 years.
Only Napoleon achieved any sort of success, and he was soon given short
shrift on land and sea by you know who.
(譯:法國人自己都承認自己的軍事史乏善可陳 -- 我記得有個法國歷史學家說過,
法國人並不「打」仗 -- 他們有別的事更擅長。
不過你要說法國佬在某些方面遠勝我們也沒錯,但說他們在戰場上與我們平分秋色
那就大錯特錯了。就跟說我們僅靠那幾哩寬的海水才維持近千年免於被侵略一樣愚
蠢。
法國佬只有拿破崙才有點搞頭,而且你知道他很快就是被誰從海上及陸上打敗的。)
我終於印證前幾天我的法國鄰居跟我的對話:
我:I heard of that your French foods are delicious.
鄰居:That's why they British hate us.
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)
◆ From: 129.12.130.137
推 CarlvinPiz22:英國佬的確是僅靠那幾哩寬的海水才撐得住.... 10/08 19:17
推 MRZ:能征善戰三定律不是說假的 10/08 19:20
推 Swashbuckler:英國人老是在五十步笑百步... 10/08 19:21
推 oldcup:不過法國菜真是比英國菜好吃不只三千倍XD 10/08 19:21
推 Lucianbear:據說二戰德軍指控英國虐待戰俘 因為菜太難吃XD 10/08 19:27
→ rainmaker2:英國佬不就是被這些法國佬征服了快一千年了 10/08 19:41
推 bloodrose23:當法國推韋欽特利為國家英雄的那一刻 法國的命運... 10/08 19:46
推 sPz101:法國人大概也不願承認那些征服者是法國人 因為腐化速度太快 10/08 19:51
→ sPz101:"法國人的後代怎麼會煮出這麼難吃的東西呢?不可能不可能" 10/08 19:53
推 MRZ:那些諾曼地人都是來自挪威,丹麥,或瑞典的移民 10/08 20:10
推 bxdfhbh:征服英國的,是維京人,只是住在法國很久了而已。 10/08 22:27
推 Zsanou:住那麼久居然沒學到法國菜?那幹嘛去住法國?白住了.... 10/08 22:33
→ rainmaker2:中世紀時候的法國菜好像也只是指一大塊肉而已 10/08 22:38
推 Rechtsstaat:英國除了半島戰爭跟滑鐵盧戰役外,還跟第一帝國打過 10/08 23:11
推 Rechtsstaat:什麼陸戰嗎?埃及戰役? 10/08 23:14
推 chenglap:那不是法國菜, 那是 PC 原人. 10/08 23:15
推 biglafu:================炸魚和馬鈴薯萬歲====================== 10/09 01:23
推 lolitass:最後一段讓我想到韓戰有美國大兵指控志願軍逼俘虜吃樹根 10/09 01:45
推 lolitass:,後來調查發現那是牛蒡 10/09 01:49
推 ibise:根據莫泊桑的說法,要讓法軍贏,要在每個軍隊裡放一個美女 10/09 02:29
→ ibise:法國男人會為了表現男子氣概而勇冠三軍 10/09 02:46
推 MRZ:莫泊桑的流言早就被貞德給終結了 10/09 08:39
推 LUDWIN:貞德:冠你媽啦,林祖媽打前鋒打到被人俘虜。。。 10/09 10:27
→ indept:有記載貞德是美女嗎? 10/09 10:43
推 MRZ:不管她是不是,都一樣破解了這則流言 10/09 10:46
推 chenglap:聽說是眼鏡娘? 10/09 11:37
推 tony15899: 還有雙麻花辮 10/09 15:08
推 jeffou1112:若英國真的跟歐陸靠在一起 他還敢拿來說嘴嗎? 10/09 20:20
推 leo10:光拿破崙嗎?路易14不也很威? 10/09 22:33
推 bloodrose23:英國是凌虐打不贏卻因故落在自己手裡的對手來阿Q一下 10/10 00:10
→ bloodrose23:(貞德,威廉華勒斯,拿皇算半個例子) 10/10 00:13
推 findarato:路易十四的評價似乎不高? 10/10 01:40
推 LUDWIN:拿破崙之所以有名,很大一部份因素是因為對手是約翰愛吹牛 10/10 02:09
推 MRZ:樓上這就說錯了,拿破崙的名氣建立在奧普兩國的恐懼之上 10/10 04:54
→ starfury:所以若干年後,出了個叫毛奇的來找拿破崙的後人尋仇了 10/10 07:50
推 adst513:酸:拿破崙不是法國人 來自科西嘉唷(在法國念軍校倒是真的) 10/11 00:37
推 crazern:華勒斯不是蘇格蘭人嗎? 10/12 00:41
推 killeryuan:================炸魚和馬鈴薯明明超好吃============= 10/12 18:37
推 chenglap:所以大英帝國被瓦解了. 10/12 19:11
推 biglafu:=====================Saber天下無敵==================== 10/12 22:51