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※ 引述《bismarck3025 (人生不如意十常九點八)》之銘言: : 最近突然迷上一次大戰。 : (略) : 不過看到這麼大量的將軍死亡 : 不由得好奇究竟是什麼原因? 看是怎麼計算的?比方說英國陸軍通常是將戰時的"killed in action (陣亡)" 跟"died of wounds (因傷致死)"合併計算的.至於"因傷"是因什麼傷?那就沒 仔細說明了.畢竟在一戰的鏨壕環境中,外加當時也沒有盤尼西林之類的抗生素, 一個小傷口很可能會引發嚴重感染,進而讓人喪命.當然更不用說有些人可能是 放假的時候去巴黎遊玩,結果被計程車幹掉,這也會算在內.然而相信該節目應該 是沒做什麼詳細考察而直接引用官方資料,畢竟以台灣的公共電視常幹的事情來 推斷老外的作法,反正預算就那麼多,自然考證就只能做那麼多. (看看精美的D頻道就知道了,秦始皇時代的中國官員最好是身穿滿清官服啦. 不過預算越高的教學節目,通常在考證上就越認真----"通常"並不代表"每個" 都會如此,這點千萬要記住.) 更何況這個數字應該是指"將官級(officers of general rank)"人物,所以當事 人未必一定是"將軍".比方說單以西線的英國陸軍來說,下面有一份陣亡或因傷 致死的將官級往生者名單,總共20人: Findlay, Neil Douglas BGRA 1st Division kia 10/09/14 Hamilton, Hubert Ion Wetherall GOC Infantry Division 3rd Division kia 14/10/14 Fitzclarence, Charles GOC Infantry Brigade 1st (Guards) Brigade kia 12/11/14 Gough, John Edmund MGGS First Army dow 22/02/15 Lomax, Samuel Holt GOC Infantry Division 1st Division dow 10/04/15 Riddell, James Foster GOC Infantry Brigade 149th Brigade kia 26/04/15 Hasler, Julian GOC Infantry Brigade 11th Brigade kia 27/04/15 Cole, Arthur Willoughby George Lowry GOC Infantry Brigade 25th Brigade kia 09/05/15 Nugent, George Colborne GOC Infantry Brigade 141st Brigade kia 31/05/15 Nickalls, Norman Tom GOC Infantry Brigade 63rd Brigade kia 26/09/15 Thesiger, George Handcock GOC Infantry Division 9th Division kia 26/09/15 Capper, Thompson GOC Division 7th Division dow 27/09/15 Wing, Frederick Drummond Vincent GOC Infantry Division 12th Division kia 02/10/15 Wormald, Frank GOC Cavalry Brigade 5th Cavalry Brigade kia 03/10/15 Trefusis, Hon. John Frederick Hepburn-Stuart-Forbes- GOC Infantry Brigade 20th Brigade kia 24/10/15 Fitton, Hugh Gregory GOC Infantry Brigade 101st Brigade dow 20/01/16 Gordon, Alister Fraser GOC Infantry Brigade 153rd Brigade dow 20/01/16 Heyworth, Frederick James GOC Infantry Brigade 3rd (Guards) Brigade kia 09/05/16 Mercer, Malcolm Smith GOC Infantry Division 3rd Canadian Division kia 02/06/16 Ingouville-Williams, Edward Charles GOC Infantry Division 34th Division kia 01/07/16 Prowse, Charles Bertie GOC Infantry Brigade 11th Brigade kia 01/07/16 Holmes, William GOC Infantry Division 4th Australian Division dow 02/07/16 Philpotts, Louis Murray BGRA 24th Division kia 08/09/16 Clifford, Henry Frederick Hugh GOC Infantry Brigade 149th Brigade kia 11/09/16 Stewart, Charles Edward GOC Infantry Brigade 154th Brigade kia 14/09/16 Howell, Philip BGGS II Corps kia 10/10/16 Glasfurd, Duncan John GOC Infantry Brigade 12th Australian Brigade dow 12/11/16 Bull, George GOC Infantry Brigade 8th Brigade dow 11/12/16 Long, Walter GOC Infantry Brigade 56th Brigade kia 29/01/17 Bulkeley-Johnson, Charles Bulkeley GOC Cavalry Brigade 8th Cavalry Brigade kia 11/04/17 Gosling, Charles GOC Infantry Brigade 10th Brigade kia 12/04/17 Matthews, Godfrey Estcourt GOC Infantry Brigade 198th Brigade dow 13/04/17 Ormsby, Vincent Alexander GOC Infantry Brigade 127th Brigade kia 02/05/17 Brown, Charles Henry Jeffries GOC Infantry Brigade 1st New Zealand Brigade kia 08/06/17 Broadwood, Robert George GOC Infantry Division 57th Division dow 21/06/17 Gordon, Charles William Eric GOC Infantry Brigade 123rd Brigade kia 23/07/17 Johnston, Francis Earl GOC Infantry Brigade 3rd New Zealand Brigade kia 07/08/17 Maclachlan, Ronald Campbell GOC Infantry Brigade 112th Brigade kia 11/08/17 Peake, Malcolm BGRA I Corps kia 27/08/17 Maxwell, Francis Aylmer GOC Infantry Brigade 27th Brigade kia 21/09/17 Rawling, Cecil Godfrey GOC Infantry Brigade 62nd Brigade kia 28/10/17 Bradford, Roland Boys GOC Infantry Brigade 186th Brigade kia 30/11/17 Cape, George Augustus Stewart BGRA 39th Division kia 18/03/18 Barnett-Barker, Randle GOC Infantry Brigade 99th Brigade kia 24/03/18 Feetham, Edward GOC Infantry Division 39th Division kia 29/03/18 Fulton, Harry Townshend GOC Infantry Brigade 3rd New Zealand Brigade dow 29/03/18 Forster, George Norman Bowes GOC Infantry Brigade 42nd Brigade kia 04/04/18 Gore, Robert Clements GOC Infantry Brigade 101st Brigade kia 14/04/18 Martin, Cuthbert Thomas GOC Infantry Brigade 151st Brigade kia 27/05/18 Husey, Ralph Hamer GOC Infantry Brigade 25th Brigade dow 30/05/18 Lumsden, Frederick William GOC Infantry Brigade 14th Brigade kia 04/06/18 Lumsden, Alfred Forbes GOC Infantry Brigade 46th Brigade kia 24/06/18 East, Lionel William Pellew CHA XIII Corps kia 06/09/18 Sanders, Arthur Richard Careless GOC Infantry Brigade 50th Brigade kia 20/09/18 Follett, Gilbert Burrell Spencer GOC Infantry Brigade 3rd (Guards) Brigade kia 27/09/18 Kay, Sir William Algernon Ireland Bt. GOC Infantry Brigade 3rd Brigade kia 04/10/18 Taylor, Stuart Campbell GOC Infantry Brigade 93rd Brigade dow 11/10/18 Lipsett, Louis James GOC Infantry Division 4th Division kia 14 當然,更不用說上面有很多人都是死後晉升的. 此外,別忘了還有海軍,一艘軍艦如果沉了,掛中校銜的艦長可能就晉升了... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.211.244
bismarck3025:多謝教授解答了。 03/06 10:31
chenglap:其實我常幻想第一次世界大戰時武將會單挑是怎樣. 03/06 13:44
dingoo:像西部片那樣決鬥? 03/06 14:53
roseritter:約個時間到壕溝中線 用拳頭PK~誤 03/06 15:16
NKN:看G鋼彈不就知道了... 03/06 15:20
BillHuang:艦長是上校缺的話才會追晉上將嗎? 03/06 16:26
ROMEL:現代武將單挑 雙方都是GunKata高手 03/06 16:42
KerwinKao:艦長是上校缺的話才會追晉上將嗎?<--哪可能 03/07 01:59
KerwinKao:上校的話..二階特升..才到少將而已..XD 03/07 02:00
BillHuang:我的確是想打少將XD 03/07 04:16
HAHAcomet:原來一次大戰期間巴黎就有計程車了(誤) 03/07 15:28
oldfatcat:宋代都有計程馬了,一戰的巴黎有計程車很意外嗎(大誤) 03/07 16:09
JosephChen:一點都不誤 請洽 Renault_Taxi_de_la_Marne 03/07 21:24
colin90149:霞飛:第六軍團是怎麼這麼快側擊德軍(報頭) 03/26 21:25
sneak: 上校的話..二階特升. https://muxiv.com 08/13 07:04
sneak: 約個時間到壕溝中線 https://daxiv.com 09/16 03:14
sneak: 其實我常幻想第一次世界 https://noxiv.com 01/01 22:50