作者KengC (KengC)
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標題Re: [閒聊] Cliff.B要黑掉了嗎? 之二
時間Fri Jun 21 14:59:25 2013
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Brutal, honest thoughts on this whole debacle
Of Sony vs MS/Used/etc..
Before I get into this subject, I need to lay a few ground rules.
First off, making deep or well outlined arguments in 140 characters is nearly
impossible, especially with a subject as complex as DRM and used games.
Second off, yes, I’ve done well over the years and I enjoy sharing my
success with the community. I remember seeing pictures of Romero’s Ferrari
as a teenager and it MOTIVATED me to make my own kick ass games. I hope that
by having fun and sharing things with the community I may motivate someone
out there to do the same. If you throw the fact that I like sharing pictures
of my cars and what not close this blog right now and go back to whatever
other site you were reading before this.
Third, I’m pro developer. I do, at the heart of it, believe that you can be
profitable and pro-developer while being pro-consumer…if you’re careful
with how you message things. I’ve been in the trenches for many years
alongside brilliant peers and I’ve heard stories at conferences of talented
people getting fucked out of money they deserve. Families lives put in peril
due to layoffs. Families forced to move to a strange new city; kids who have
to change schools and find entirely new sets of friends. (And don’t give me
that First World Problem bullshit, because what I just mentioned sucks no
matter who you are.)
Fourth, if you think this is back-peddling understand that I firmly stand by
everything I’ve said. I’m writing this to give a surgical explanation
behind some of my more…inflammatory posts on Twitter.
(And if you refer to Microsoft as M$, wow, you’re totally blowing my mind
man. How creative of you.)
This console launch is the most unique in the business’ history. Even last
time when we did have the internet it wasn’t as vocal or amplified as it is
now. Giant Enemy Crab, anyone? (Sony’s terrible showing at that e3 proved to
not really matter as the PS3 went on to do well in the long run.) What
bothers me is the internet pitchfork mob who can only see 6 inches in front
of their face without thoughtfully analyzing a situation. Any idiot can go to
quickmeme.com. Try writing a fully thought out article on a subject, like the
folks at Polygon, Giantbomb, Rock Paper Shotgun, or Kotaku do. (Sorry
Gamespot, back of the bus.)
Microsoft tried to and ultimately couldn’t have it both ways. You can’t
still have discs and then expect everyone to embrace digital. And,
fundamentally, if you take something away that a consumer has been used to
without some seriously smooth handling they’re naturally going to get upset.
I love community. I always have, going back to the Unreal/UT days. (Remember
Ownage?) I used to love hanging out in the UT chatrooms late at night. My
interest did wane a bit in the Gears days as I was frustrated with our
mistakes that were made in that era and the negativity that came out of it.
But now I see the positive aspects of places like Reddit and GAF (not the
negative) and I recognize that community is the backbone of any entertainment
experience in 2013 and beyond.
What I hate is the knee jerk dog-pile mob mentality that hit. I realized that
not all Internet Memes are truthful or make full sense when I saw this one.
Ha ha, fuck the airlines, right? I mean how obvious is this. The plane can
carry a FUCKING SPACE SHUTTLE and the mean anti-consumer airline wants to
bill me on luggage fees?
Anyone who actually stops and thinks about this situation would realize that
it’s about fuel costs. With Americans weighing more than ever and with fuel
costs skyrocketing the airlines were forced to charge fees on overweight
luggage so when you’re transporting your dumbells for vacation on muscle
beach the cost is passed onto you. This is a business decision, albeit one
that wasn’t handled the smoothly when it came to messaging, but my gut is
telling me that running an airline is probably as hard as running a game
development studio. Richard Branson, the ninja entrepreneur responsible for
Virgin Airlines is famous for saying:
“If you want to be a Millionaire, start with a billion dollars and launch a
new airline.”
Now, the other day I tweeted “I mean, I want developers to get money on
every copy of their game over Gamestop fuck me right?”
There’s a story behind this. For years Gamestop was a good partner for
retail and console games. And then they started looking at their numbers.
(And don’t believe what they say about what % of their profit is new to
used, believe how they ACT at every single store. Basic life lesson there
folks.) And they realized that shit, we keep all of the money from giving
someone five bucks on a game that they paid $60 for and we can then go and
undercut NEW by reselling the used copy for $55 or so.
Profit. I’d then wager that an executive order came down to rewire every
manager to push used whenever possible. And that’s part of the problem. They
claim to developers and publishers to want to come to the store for new but
when you’re there what is the staff taught to preach? Buy it used!
I’ve said it before, when I was younger and had $42 to my name I traded
games all the time and would have bought the shit out of used. Just because I
’m successful now doesn’t mean I’ll ever forget that feeling of not
knowing how I was going to pay my bills or how wonderful Ramen tasted.
A few years ago Microsoft asked me to go to the Gamestop Manager’s show in
Las Vegas. I was knee deep in development of Gears 3 and had already had a
ton of press related travel, plus, I fucking hate Las Vegas. (You want to see
anti consumer, hoo boy.) But my Microsoft marketing guy told me it would go a
long way. He reminded me that it’s a big fun event for the managers who
would love to press the flesh. So I flew out there, came on stage, shot a
T-shirt gun at the crowd (so fun) met the managers, and did my best to not
remind myself that I was in a city that I really don’t like.
Next up was the big exciting midnight launch for Gears 3. Exciting stuff; Big
Sean played the event in NYC, the fans were stoked (sent over a few dozen
pizzas to the fans in line as a goodwill and fun PR stunt!) and I got to show
my future in-laws how amazing this business can be. Cut to flying home and
people start sending me pictures of the extremely well put together finely
printed leaflets at the Gears 3 launch that said “Trade in this game by
November 6th and get more than you normally would on your trade in!”
Motherfucker. We had done a lot of work to keep the disc in tray, but those
retail practices are deliberately set up to create a revolving door of game
trade in. Folks say “Yeah, but Gamestop helps out a lot of games by pushing
them!” to which I quote Chris Rock “Yeah, they’re like the uncle who paid
for your college…but molested you.”
Capitalism? Sure. It’s a free market and they’ve got every right to do
this. I accept that. However when I see studio after studio closing and the
aforementioned alluded titles failing I know something’s got to change.
But Cars and Movies and Books haven’t had this problem, why are games
different?
Watch this video, and then come back to this blog, please.
Now, I know only blaming used games really does come across as a whiny
answer. There was a brilliant post on GAF that was quoted on Kotaku saying “
We didn’t ask for increased budgets, or phoned in sequels, or tacked on
multiplayer.” It was incredibly well worded (and I can’t find it in the
mountain of e3 news now so someone link it to me and I’ll update this blog
with the link.) It’s up to the developer and the publisher to find a way to
solve these problems. (And yes, by voting with your dollars, the consumers
have shaped where we’re at to some extent. In the AAA space there is a
certain graphical fidelity required and rich feature set expected that are
causing costs to skyrocket.) Add in the fact that there’s more things than
ever in 2013 competing for your dollar and you have to have 8+ figure
marketing budgets to run ads and what not.
So here’s what’s going to happen now that Microsoft has largely matched Sony
’s (well played) move at E3. The shift to digital is still going to happen
(FOR BOTH) but it’s going to be slow and subtle. Suddenly more DLC will be
made available. More microstransactions will appear. And Day One Digital will
(hopefully) be cheaper and will have so many added bells and whistles that
consumers (with reliable enough bandwidth) will have a hard time refusing the
tasty downloadable edition over the disc based one.
But you know, none of this shit matters if the GAMES AREN’T FUN AND
FANTASTIC. And if they are? No one seems to mind throwing money at them.
(Zynga, this is your problem now, btw.)
I’ve said before if I worked at Microsoft I would not only POSITIVELY
motivate users to go digital but also offer their own trading system in which
they give you MORE money for your game than Gamestop and sell the used games
for LESS than Gamestop. Include a Netflix style mailing system and move along
your merry way by engaging the customer as opposed to treating them like
criminals.
Years from now college courses are going to be taught in proper messaging and
they’re going to use Microsoft’s E3 delivery as a worst case scenario. I’
ve known many of the folks over there for years, and folks, you know better.
Before any presser you’re given a booklet that only says “Here’s what you
should say if asked X.” They also brief you on the journalists you’re about
to meet with “This is the guy from Giantbomb. He’s smart but has been good
to work with in the past. He also likes Hot Pockets and long walks on the
beach.” With the stakes this high those executives should have memorized
that book and not have been rope-a-doped by savvy journalists who laid a trap
for them to walk right the hell into. (Fuckin’ Keighley strikes again)
When users were complaining about changes to Gears’ multiplayer my (bad)
answer was often “If you don’t like it, play the previous game you liked so
much!” (Which is a thinly veiled Fuck You to the customer, honestly. Holy
shit I just admitted I was wrong.)
Microsoft was trying to sell well lit houses that require a fully intact
electrical grid to a world that doesn’t have that yet. Nothing made this
more obvious than the fact that our servicemen and women of the armed forces
are often in poorly connected places. Even Gears had a HUGE military
following. And nothing looks worse than saying “forget the troops” because
hey, your ass isn’t getting shot at or dealing with IEDs, are you?
I’ll admit, the once every 24 hour check was pretty silly. Customers can
smell from a mile away when you’re treating them like children, peeking your
head into their bedroom on a regular basis in an attempt to catch them doing
something. Here’s the thing about Steam. It doesn’t FORCE you to be online.
The ecosystem of Steam is so brilliant, from the community, to the summer
sales, to the indie games, that you WANT to get online.
My money is on the PC, mobile and tablets for the near future. I wandered
around E3 looking at (too many) fantastic games shaking my head and worrying
about how many are going to be deemed a failure due to the fact that yes, it
may have sold 4 million copies, but it cost too much to make and market, so
it was a wash. (Do your homework, several very high profile games have had
this issue and no, I’m not going to call them out here.)
At the end of the day I suppose it’s a beautiful thing that so many gamers
actually give a shit and are willing to participate in the debate. Just
remember one of the (positive) aspects of Capitalism is that it encourages
competition. You don’t want one system to “win” because what happens is
that the “winner” then becomes fat and lazy and the consumer has no choice.
That choice is what often forces a business’ hand. (Look at the mess that is
cable right now; many markets only have one choice so you could wind up
fucked with Time Warner.)
By the way, Apple may be the ones who wind up “winning” this entire thing
now.
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推 pddck :我閱後跟樓上有相同看法XDD他就是覺得motherfucker 06/21 15:21
推 billychicken:gamestop衝康那段有生動到XD 06/21 15:23
→ zsyian :這篇文章放在這裡會滿孤獨的.... 06/21 15:42
推 patrickleeee:來點翻譯嘛XD 文長懶的看 06/21 15:46
推 BraveCattle :是縮址不對,還是原文砍了? 06/21 15:55
推 cpt :google一下title就有囉 縮址大概是錯了 06/21 15:58
→ cpt :前半段過度 pro-developer 不過後半段算是蠻中肯的 06/21 15:58
→ cpt :突然發現 他對gamestop和gamespot都很有意見 XD 06/21 15:59
推 zsyian :忘了推 06/21 16:08
推 cpt :摘要整理一下好了... 06/21 16:10
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→ cpt :2) AAA遊戲開發費用增加無法避免 06/21 16:11
→ cpt :3) 今後遊戲通路將緩慢走向數位下載 06/21 16:11
→ cpt :4) 微軟今年的E3災難會被寫進公關教科書 06/21 16:11
→ cpt :5) 預測將來 PC/手機/平版遊戲 > 家機遊戲 06/21 16:11
→ cpt :6) 最後的"贏家"可能是蘋果 06/21 16:11
→ Ambient :結論:都是they的錯 我製作人賺不了好痛苦 06/21 16:13
推 dimrain :都還滿中肯的啦 06/21 16:13
→ Ambient : 既然我賺不了 我預測市場萎縮 其他人也別想賺 06/21 16:17
推 Alcazer :還有提到不爽不要玩是不好的答案(GOW2 MP) 06/21 16:22
→ Alcazer :不該強制限制消費者 要用獎勵消費者的方式 (Steam) 06/21 16:23
→ caprice :光是講航空公司那段就有夠自己掌嘴了 06/21 16:52
→ caprice :北美的國內線明明就是除了油價之外有很多問題造成的 06/21 16:54
→ caprice :航空公司就是硬要告訴你油貴所以要收行李費 06/21 16:54
→ caprice :不然就加入他的會員blahblah... 06/21 16:55
→ caprice :然後現在搞到先登機也要收錢...典型的就是透過攏斷 06/21 16:56
→ caprice :之後, 再不停巧立明目告訴你錢沒收夠... 06/21 16:56
推 qaz12wsx45 :反正微軟就是沒那卡撐 不敢作改革(蓋章 06/21 19:02
→ caprice :改革? huh? 就說了沒什麼東西擋著廠商把他自己的遊戲 06/21 19:14
→ caprice :"改革"成光碟綁帳號二手交易不能啊? 06/21 19:15
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→ caprice :大家來發起連署要求GoW下一代光碟綁帳號 好啦~~ 06/21 19:17
→ faang :我一直看到樓上在強調沒什麼人阻止廠商 云云 06/21 19:42
→ faang :最大的阻礙不就是玩家本身? 06/21 19:42
→ faang :所以我不懂你到底想證明什麼 06/21 19:43
→ faang :官方說過 下世代也不會分什麼隨選、XBLA了 06/21 19:44
→ faang :所以有的遊戲可能就直接出下載版 不出實體 06/21 19:44
→ mindsteam :消費者是商人的阻礙……。真是勁爆的說法。乾脆說這 06/21 20:32
→ mindsteam :世界上的國家應該全由大企業做極權式管理以求社會進 06/21 20:33
→ mindsteam :步好了。 06/21 20:33
→ zsyian :廠商創造市場,消費者決定市場,鈔票等於選票 06/21 22:06
→ talan :這會是微軟當初的考慮 06/21 22:17
→ InfinitySA :消費者和廠商本來就是對立的啊 06/21 23:48
→ InfinitySA :不是都想互相從對方身上撈更多? 06/21 23:48