→ shortmason:補充，要了解龐克音樂最好的方法還是要去聽 10/29 01:58
→ shortmason:這兩網站裡面都有 10/29 01:58
推 saigxx:好文推!!! 10/29 03:35
推 ricewineduck:還是這裡專業!!! 10/29 08:43
推 hydeaya:可以參考"龐克的哲學"這本 了解一下龐克起源跟歷史 10/29 09:51
推 coldplayman:有深入 非常棒 10/29 12:39
推 Uchiha:推好文 10/29 19:10
推 qwertyhg999:推好文 10/29 23:05
推 Antipop:推好書 10/30 02:01
→ vendock:@ shortmason: you provided two links, one specifically 10/30 23:26
→ vendock:states the category as SCREAMO and not punk, whilest 10/30 23:27
→ vendock:the other is a popular music-promotion website for 10/30 23:27
→ vendock:modern "emo" and "punk" music (while they, in many 10/30 23:28
→ vendock:senses, cannot be further from the core mind of punk) 10/30 23:28
→ vendock:featuring more pop punk and simply alternative music 10/30 23:29
→ vendock:instead of actual traditional punk. 10/30 23:29
→ vendock:as for the accusation that punk is a product of a life 10/30 23:31
→ vendock:of undereducation lifestyle, it's simply stereotypical 10/30 23:31
→ vendock:there is a clear identification to each branch of punk 10/30 23:32
→ vendock:many of which are segments that have effects of other 10/30 23:33
→ vendock:musical stylings. such as "ska punk" would be making 10/30 23:33
→ vendock:a reference to punk music with an influence from the 10/30 23:33
→ vendock:ska branch of raggae, where pop punk would imply the 10/30 23:34
→ vendock:usage of catchy melodies as well as more cheery tunes 10/30 23:34
→ vendock:and folk punk would be mixing some cultural effects 10/30 23:35
→ vendock:with the basis of punk music. 10/30 23:35
推 vendock:i'm really rambling on here. sorry. i'll organize my 10/30 23:37
→ vendock:thoughts and make a proper post one of these days on 10/30 23:37
→ vendock:the topic. 10/30 23:37
推 fankus:感覺V先生好像很厲害 雖然看不清楚很多字.. 10/31 00:24
推 PunkWhite:幹我大致上看的懂耶 似乎幾天後他會po文 10/31 01:30
→ vendock:對不起,昨晚有一點語無倫次,過幾天會重新整理,另行貼帖 10/31 07:01
→ vendock:主要是說punk文化雖然跟emo/screamo/hardcore的發跡&成長 10/31 07:02
→ vendock:有密切的關係,可是在音樂style上是有很大的差距 10/31 07:04
→ vendock:補充:還有現代流行pop punk跟傳統地下punk文化的差別 10/31 07:05
推 MostAlone:嗯..我也有點奇怪他怎麼特別貼screamo的鏈結 10/31 13:45
→ MostAlone:而不是punk 10/31 13:46
→ MostAlone:不過我倒覺得..Emo/screamo若說單就音樂性上跟punk 10/31 13:47
→ MostAlone:有所鏈結，倒還有跡可循 10/31 13:48
→ MostAlone:但也僅止於音樂的歷史脈絡而已 10/31 13:48
→ MostAlone:在核心價值上早就完全不相干了 10/31 13:49
→ MostAlone:punk-pop也是 10/31 13:49
→ MostAlone:emo發展到現在也跟龐克漸行漸遠 10/31 13:50
→ MostAlone:跟以前D.C.那掛原生emo團的走向已經完全不同了 10/31 13:52
→ MostAlone:隨便打打自己的感覺.. 10/31 13:53
→ MostAlone:有一個問題請教v兄... 10/31 13:53
→ MostAlone:到底什麼是post-hardcore? 10/31 13:53
推 vendock:post-hardcore 是一個從原本 hardcore punk 演化出的一個 10/31 18:08
→ vendock:style, 主要特色是有一個dissonance混melody的一個平衡 10/31 18:10
→ vendock:主要代表團應該可以推drive like jehu, fugazi, big black 10/31 18:11
→ vendock:at the drive-in, 以及thrice 比較早期的作品 10/31 18:12
→ vendock:在音樂的感覺上可以說是比較"developed", 音樂比較開放 10/31 18:13
→ vendock:有時比較含蓄, 而不像傳統hardcore punk的粗狂 10/31 18:15
→ vendock:(喘) 打中文好累 10/31 19:15
推 shortmason:我今天才注意到我PO的是SCREAMO...哈哈... 11/01 16:41
→ shortmason:因為我搞錯了讓大家討論半天好像也不是壞事 11/01 16:42
推 shortmason:另外那網站原來是給流行龐克用的阿...多謝指教恩。 11/01 17:20
推 MostAlone:last.fm的indie music多的很恐怖 11/02 02:32
→ MostAlone:非主流體系的龐克相信也不少 11/02 02:33
→ vendock:last.fm 是給用電腦聽音樂的人分享興趣的,so什麼都有 11/02 19:13
→ vendock:可是他的分類就一樣很亂 11/02 19:15
推 perfectjeff:七樓推的書我有買~好書!!滿有趣的~ 11/05 14:28
推 beckgoahead:我知道厲害的是有幾個,有些都是複製貼上.... 11/06 02:33
推 vendock:我都很辛苦的打出來的說 = ='' 中文打字很慢 11/06 18:07