Re: [問題] sublease違約

[wisdomtanya (wisdom)]

haha
I think the landlord (or tenants) can file Civil Complaint (in Maryland,we call
Form DC/CV1)......................... who will win?
350 might be reasonable if and only if the tenantshould pay....


A lease obligates you to pay rent through the end of the lease.
If you break your lease, the landlord can hold you responsible for the rent
due through the remainder of the lease. However, a landlord is required
to make a reasonable effort to re-rent the apartment to limit losses
(Efforts Provision:善良管理者之義務)
If the landlord is able to re-rent the unit, you are only responsible for
the rent until the date the new tenant moves in.
However, a landlord with multiple vacant units is not required
to put a new tenant into the unit you
have vacated.
Also, a landlord can hold you responsible for costs of re-renting,
such as advertising for a new tenant.

so the short-term (seasonal) lease is 2 months... I use 2 months into
calculation.
Notice: notice to terminate lease   ...............
I think the tenant has done so... (and I don't think they have this provision.
so it is not the issue.....

※ 引述《allfail (我要xx了)》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《wisdomtanya (wisdom)》之銘言：
: : normally breaking a lease costs 1 month rent=715
: : the standard lease term is 1 month
: : and in this case 2 month
: : so 715*2/12=119
: : so 350 is unbelieveable ........
: : according to Maryland's law (for assuming your state is the same)
: : the max security is 2 month rent.....
: : so 119*2=238
: : so 350 still too high
: 1. Things are not scalable this way. In general, the shorter the term,
: the more expensive the cancellation fee would be.
: 2. Even if you follow this scaling, you can only count the days that
: both sides agree that the apartment is not leased. From the conversation
: record we can see that our rentee did not decide not to rent until quite
: late in the process. There is no reason he can "rewind" and refuse to
: pay for the days before the decision. And there is usually a period between
: your moveout date and the date you let the landlord know about it.
: 3. The problem is not really about money. It has already been said; I don't
: think there is a valid contract since sublease is illegal. The real problem
: is about the responsibility; the OP seems to think somehow he does not have
: to be fully responsible for the loss of $700 for the two people combined
: due to he's not showing up. That is simply not right.

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噓 pyroarson:所以你執意要跳針就是了  今天就算sublease真的不合法
→ pyroarson:這位學弟做的事讓人不爽很正常，學長也沒說要告他
→ pyroarson:也沒辦法逼他一定要給錢，只是說大不了以後不聯絡
→ pyroarson:學弟上來純粹討拍 要人家說他沒錯增加他的信心
→ pyroarson:被噓剛好，不過他至少找到了你back him up.算是達成目地
→ wisdomtanya:我只是站在法律上角度探討....你是在兇什
→ pyroarson:nobody said aqwe is definitely  legally correct
→ pyroarson:why are you so eager to discredit him?
→ wisdomtanya:法律課上的討論本來就是這樣 我只是就我認知提出看法
→ painkiller:法律上有什麼好探討的  連約都沒簽
推 blackacre:完全不懂P兄有什麼權利罵W兄
→ wisdomtanya:少充滿情緒字眼 ...
→ pyroarson:之前就說過...法律上本來就對口頭上說要承租的人沒有約
→ pyroarson:束力... 而且也沒必要講法律 今天是有人要告誰嗎？
→ pyroarson:不付350，會影響credit score嗎？會坐牢嗎？什麼都不會
→ pyroarson:只是有可能影響自己的人際關係...  這點你拿法律出來
→ pyroarson:是有幫到什麼？ 用法律幫他找回學長的關愛？
→ wisdomtanya:who is him? aqwe? I don't know both parties....
→ wisdomtanya:so 不用討論了 就來濫罵就可以了???
→ pyroarson:你討論的東西有什麼意義？學長違法？所以去檢舉他吧
→ pyroarson:學弟沒錯？ 所以不用付350?
→ pyroarson:他不爽不用付350你知我知獨眼龍也知 又啥好討論的
→ Jrecht:此事件的發生地似乎是在NY state，要討論也用NY州規定討論
→ Jrecht:較有實益
推 evilove:我倒很樂意知道，多點法律常識不錯阿:)  不需要這麼衝吧
→ wisdomtanya:ha.the issue here is if the amount 350 is reasonab
→ wisdomtanya:我從頭就認為 沒有法律效力 not binding
→ pyroarson:since there are no legal issues, because nobody is
→ pyroarson:going to court, whether or not it is reasonable
→ Jrecht:不然美國那麼多州 是否來個轉租規定總整理 讓大家了解清楚
→ pyroarson:is purely subjective.
→ pyroarson:or...as you've so aptly pointed out, he can refuse
→ pyroarson:to pay any amount, and he would still be in good
→ pyroarson:legal standing.
→ pyroarson:But that's not going to stop ppl being pissed
→ wisdomtanya:你不是自己都說 沒有 約束力????...那期待我說什
→ coloru:這樣都能戰..... I 服了  you ~~~
→ casey72017:題外話,整篇+推文文法錯好多,w老兄你還是打中文吧...XD
→ pyroarson:樓上害我在仔細檢查自己的文法= =
推 george31708:為什麼明明可以打中文還硬要打英文？自曝其短？
→ wisdomtanya:cool... now English becomes an issue....
噓 sharpshoot:砍了一篇又來一篇喔?
→ wisdomtanya:so what is ur point? I just tried to explain sth.
→ arabesque:整篇根本就不是法律問題 是做人問題
→ arabesque:試問你敢不敢借錢給這位學弟？ 你不寫借據的話
→ arabesque:你會不會怕他跟你說 學長請你高抬貴手 上次跟你借的錢
→ arabesque:有點多？ 可不可以晚一點再還？ 法律上當然有得吵啊
→ arabesque:錢的case可能不一樣 除非現金交易 不然銀行都會有記錄
→ arabesque:但是人跟人之間的互動互信完全都被破壞了
→ arabesque:你講法律問題當然可以 包含我在內板友都願意知道更多
→ arabesque:只是你的寫法會讓人不爽 像是開頭的haha...
→ arabesque:就讓人覺得你好像在替討拍拍的原po背書
→ arabesque:鄉民這麼多總有人看得不爽吧 噓你也是正常會發生的事
噓 pyroarson:對 我就是不爽的一個，請你用法律告訴我為什麼我不能對
→ pyroarson:你不爽...
→ pyroarson:不是說不能純討論法律角度，只是你今天的寫法就是: A本
→ pyroarson:來說要給B$$$，後來又不給。B沒有錯因為沒有法律上的問
→ pyroarson:提(沒有契約)，A賣得東西不合法(工廠流出品) 所以B不用
→ pyroarson:想跟A拿錢
→ pyroarson:第二個AB搞反= =
推 Maccer:請注意用詞！不要觸犯版規
→ pyroarson:所以上法庭誰會贏？哈哈！
→ pyroarson:說要給又不給....舉世皆然的會讓人不開心吧？
→ stinktofu:一句話:學弟想黑吃黑(如果SUBLEASE不合法)
→ stinktofu:學弟想白吃白(如果SUBLEASE合法)
→ stinktofu:他就是想不付!!!!
噓 sharpshoot:#1CJLD2Po 不是很愛講倫理道德?
→ wisdomtanya:看來有人要學 情緒管理了 hahahahahaha
噓 shawncarter:搞不清楚狀況 主要的問題根本跟法律無關
→ wisdomtanya:我覺得 兩造當初都想便宜行事 才會此結果...
→ wisdomtanya:就算跟法律無關  so what? 我就不能 探討嗎/?
噓 sharpshoot:噓也是一種探討囉
→ wisdomtanya:to learn how to respectis important...
→ painkiller:就法律上來說  沒有respect 完全合法阿 :)
→ wisdomtanya:haha..........childish....
→ painkiller:別人在談尊重你講法律  跟你講法律就開始人身攻擊囉
→ wisdomtanya:haha.. do u really want to talk about legal issues
→ wisdomtanya:or just want to put opposite words...
噓 sharpshoot:childish算不算人身攻擊的字眼呢? 科科
→ moxv:w到底是真懂還是裝懂啊？之前第1篇貼了違約金只有一個月的
→ moxv:2/12,因為只違約兩個月,後面法律條文應該就不用再拿出來現了
→ moxv:然後還說我學校宿舍兩人房合法住五個人也太鬆了,你住海邊嗎？
→ wisdomtanya:第一2/12 不是拿違約兩個月 是法定最高security限制
→ moxv:我知道是第一2/12,你不要跳針,且不知道幹嘛扯違約金,大家明明
→ moxv:就再討論房租如果沒有入住應該要付多少錢
→ wisdomtanya:第二 您認為deposit是不可refundable這還需要討論
→ wisdomtanya:第三 我覺得貴校要求寬鬆 這只是 我的看法 不能發表嗎
→ moxv:那我問你我房子押金150,違約兩個月,請高見一下我拿回多少合理
→ pyroarson:W的跳針行為才是childish...講尊重你一直講法律= =