[新聞] A-Rod conspiracy theory emerges

[Ally1213 (November Rain)]

這其實是幾天以前的新聞了。

球員工會懷疑大聯盟勾結各隊，以壓低A-Rod新合約的價格



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A-Rod conspiracy theory emerges

Union questions Selig, accusses teams of collusion

球員工會：一切都是陰謀吧？！


ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- The baseball players' union is worried commissioner Bud
Selig is trying to hold down the price of Alex Rodriguez's next contract and
that teams might be sharing information about their free-agent plans.

General managers, in an innovation, each spoke at their annual meeting Tues-
day about their offseason goals, and many mentioned what players they were
making available. The idea was suggested by this year's co-chairs, Boston's
Theo Epstein and Florida's Larry Beinfest, and many GMs said they found it to
be useful.



"Over the past few days, press reports coming out of the general managers'
meetings relating to the sharing of information between clubs as to their
plans regarding players potentially raise serious questions concerning the
fairness and integrity of the free-agent market," the union said in a state-
ment Thursday night after the four-day session ended. "Such questions are
amplified by reports stating that the commissioner is attempting to influence
the market for at least one player."

A person familiar with the union's statement said the player in question was
Rodriguez. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the state-
ment didn't refer to A-Rod by name.

Rob Manfred, executive vice president of labor relations in the commission-
er's office, denied that there was any improper conduct.

Baseball's labor contract says teams may not act in concert with regard to
free agents. Union head Donald Fehr did not specify which reports concerned
him but clearly was concerned a team's action might not be based solely on
its own determinations.

"Any such activity with respect to free agents is clearly improper," Fehr
said in a statement. "We expect to look into the situation and are prepared
to take the appropriate action to respond to any collusive behavior, and to
make sure that the rights of free agent players under the Basic Agreement are
fully protected."

Fehr was traveling Thursday night and could not be reached.

"I am at a loss to understand Mr. Fehr's inflammatory allegations," Manfred
said. "In response to an inquiry, the MLBPA was informed early today that
there has been no exchange of information among the clubs about players --
free agent or otherwise.

"The union was also told that the press report in question was based on a
very general discussion of club "needs" and "goals" in the offseason to faci-
litate trade discussions. Any suggestion that such a discussion violates the
Basic Agreement is absurd."

In the 1980s, players won three collusion grievances against management,
cases that were settled for $280 million.

Rodriguez opted out of a record 10-year, $252 million contract with the New
York Yankees, forfeiting $72 million he was owed during the final three sea-
sons. When the Yankees attempted to get a meeting with A-Rod, agent Scott
Boras told them they had to make a $350 million offer if they wished to speak
with the third baseman.




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推 TheBeast:=.=會懷疑是正常   ....
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→ bryon:mlb官方應該也是比較傾個資方.畢竟這幾年的薪資炒作太兇狠了
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推 Santana77:樓上 所以各球團才會對於 要拿出一年三千萬以上的薪水
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推 jagdzaku:腦袋還有一點理智的都會覺得貴吧
→ XSZX:突然覺得這年頭連因為東西太貴而不買也是一種罪
推 deadlink:物價上漲的這年頭，勞方都在幫不漲薪水的資方說話也真妙
→ deadlink:貴不貴市場競爭自然會決定，不應該由資方聯合起來串價
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→ XSZX:要不要加薪應該看現在他表現的價值是否已經超越了他拿的錢
→ XSZX:當他所要的價格明顯已經超過他的表現這就叫貴
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→ XSZX:聯合壟斷是不切實際地
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→ SteveKerr:球團本身也會有願意付的價格
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→ SteveKerr:球員或經紀人跟球團之間自然會在互相喊價中取得共識
→ SteveKerr:而當數個球團想搶1個球員時成交價自然會被抬高
→ SteveKerr:棒球數據還沒有先進到可以推算出薪水與成績的關係
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→ sam105251:但是也可以說是因為他才進季後賽..那他有沒有符合他的價
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→ heero0918:值絕不是只有那幾場的門票收入