推 pukka:So, does the lecturer allow students eating in class? 12/16 09:17
→ pukka:Or, does he/she just passively endure such behavior due 12/16 09:23
→ pukka:to some reason? I'm not sure if we can hear the ture 12/16 09:24
→ pukka:voice from the lecturer after all these debates happen. 12/16 09:25
→ pbs:授課老師不在意,詳情請參閱 gossiping板 12/02 jamesch 文章 12/16 09:27
→ pukka:But I really can't imagine that a lecturer will be happy 12/16 09:27
→ pukka:to see students eating in his/her class. But in reality 12/16 09:29
→ pukka:he/she can decide to ignore it to avoid having problems. 12/16 09:30
→ pukka:I also sometimes did so when I was in TW, but I was not 12/16 09:31
→ pukka:really happy about it. 12/16 09:31
推 pbs:走出你的小世界吧!公司,醫院,研討會一邊吃一邊開多得是 12/16 09:33
推 pukka:Unversiies are not companies or hospitals. As I said in 12/16 09:34
→ pukka:another post, university is a place to educate. If we 12/16 09:35
→ pbs:講者,主管,主任也沒有崩潰呀!為什麼一定要把吃東西和respect與 12/16 09:35
→ pbs:否混為一談? 12/16 09:35
→ pukka:treat universities like cram schools or other commercial 12/16 09:36
→ pukka:organisms, then it will become cram schools. 12/16 09:36
→ pbs:抱歉英語不好用中文回;不是只有學校在幹正事,醫院討論病情,公 12/16 09:38
→ pbs:司解決問題,為什麼吃東西就沒有影響?一定要把上課"儀式化"嗎? 12/16 09:39
→ pbs:吃東西唯一可能壞處是打擾別人;如果同學老師都允許,何錯之有? 12/16 09:41
推 pukka:I don't think that you can eat anyway in any meetings in 12/16 09:41
→ pukka:even companies/hospitals. In informal meetings you may 12/16 09:43
→ pukka:do so but it will not be the case in formal meetings. 12/16 09:44
→ pukka:So, I agree that if the lecturer and ALL of the students 12/16 09:45
→ pukka:are truly happy, it may be allowed to eat in class. 12/16 09:46
→ pukka:However it should not become a normal case. 12/16 09:46
→ pbs:以管窺天,我以前在業界主持會議時下面吃東西的人都是鬼就對了? 12/16 09:48
推 pukka:I'm not sure what's the "業界" you mean. As said, the 12/16 09:50
推 SakuraWars:所以樓上下次去國際會議啃雞腿拍照給我看,我會崇拜你 12/16 09:50
→ SakuraWars:我說的是 pbs 12/16 09:50
→ pukka:cram schools and top universities follows different 12/16 09:51
→ pukka:logics and principles. NTU students can decide which one 12/16 09:52
→ pukka:they are. That's it. 12/16 09:52
→ pbs:不相信開會可以吃東西?隨便google都有,馬偕醫院提供住院醫師晨 12/16 09:53
→ pbs:是很嚴重的事嗎?萬一早餐讓醫生討論病情不專心,醫死人怎麼辦? 12/16 09:55
→ pbs:人命關天,醫院開會絕對比university lecture神聖一萬倍,pukka 12/16 10:03
→ pbs:教授要不要趕快去譴責馬偕醫院草菅人命? 12/16 10:04
推 pukka:You are 跳針ing. I said many times that universities 12/16 18:15
→ pukka:were not commercial organisms like companies/hospitals, 12/16 18:17
→ pukka:unless the university treat itself as a cram school. 12/16 18:17
→ pukka:I don't think you can actually quantify and compare the 12/16 18:19
→ pukka:"holyness" between universities and hospitals. The point 12/16 18:20
→ pukka:is, if ALL MEMBERS in the class/meeting, especially the 12/16 18:22
→ pukka:lecturer/chairman, accept such a behavior, then it may 12/16 18:24
→ pukka:be allowed. However this is absolutely not a normal case 12/16 18:26
→ pbs:台大授課老師早就說她不在意學生吃東西,你到底要揮到什麼時候? 12/16 18:28
推 pukka:I didn't see the words directly from her mouth. So far I 12/16 18:33
→ pukka:only see the words said by the students. I'm wondering 12/16 18:33
→ pukka:what's her ture voice without any pressure. 12/16 18:34
→ pbs:你要聽過她的說法才能判斷,OK!那你之前的結論是怎麼來的? 12/16 18:37
→ pukka:What's my conclusion YOU THINK? lol 12/16 18:38
→ pbs:原文照錄pukka:So, do the NTU students think that NTU is a 12/16 18:48
→ pbs:a cram school? If not, why do they take such attitude? 12/16 18:48
→ pbs:那時候可沒說只要老師允許,學生的attitude就沒問題喔 12/16 18:50
推 pukka:LOL you started 斷章取義. As I said, so far I didn't see 12/17 07:59
→ pukka:any words directly from the lecturer saying that she 12/17 07:59
→ pukka:allowed students eating in class. So, in normal case I 12/17 08:00
→ pukka:don't think the lecturer would be happy, and therefore 12/17 08:01
→ pukka:the students' response was not proper in attitude. 12/17 08:03
→ pukka:Moreover, what I really said is that ALL MEMBERS in the 12/17 08:04
→ pukka:class should agree eating in class/meeting, although the 12/17 08:06
→ pukka:lecturer's/chairman's opinion is the most important. 12/17 08:07