推 maiomaio01:Heinze在這邊的評價跟上面的差真多 到底他是好還不好啊 10/12 00:51
→ trilvie:我貼個第三份評價來 XD 10/12 00:52
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作者: trilvie (Tulpenmanie) 看板: Argentina
標題: [ARG!] 阿根廷2比1秘魯賽後奧萊報評分及點評
時間: Mon Oct 12 01:01:19 2009
http://www.argstorm.com/shownews.asp?newsid=10941
羅梅羅(9分):出擊果斷而準確,面對單刀尤為出色。
古鐵雷斯(5.5分):下半場表現更好一些,得到了更多插上的空間。
斯齊亞維(4分):毛糙的失誤差點造成丟球。
海因策(5分):空中球的防守做得不錯,還僥倖擋下秘魯人一次可能轉化為進球的
機會。
埃米利亞諾‧因蘇阿(3.5分):助攻一次也沒有,沒有給人帶來太大驚喜。
恩佐‧佩雷斯(3.5分):跟古鐵雷斯在邊路的輪流插上亂了套,被帕勒莫換下。
馬斯切拉諾(3分):秘魯的那個進球,真想不到錯誤居然是馬斯切這樣的球員犯的
。
迪馬利亞(5分):偉大的上半場,在邊路不斷製造威脅。
艾瑪爾(5分):巧妙助攻伊瓜因將比分改寫為1比0。閱讀比賽的能力非常優秀,只
是傳球還差一點點準確而已。
梅西(3分):怎麼也想不明白為什麼他在國家隊就只有這樣的表現。
伊瓜因(5.5分):在國家隊首秀就進球,這對於一名前鋒來說絕不簡單。
帕勒莫(10分):只有在他身上才會發生奇跡,偉大的傢伙。
德米凱利斯(5分):有不少漂亮的攔截。
費德里克‧因蘇阿(6分):第二個進球中,他在週邊似傳似射地把球送到門前非常
關鍵。
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最後發現 每個媒體的評價都很個性化 (?)
不過我覺得奧萊給的有點趨於任性 XD
羅梅羅9分實至名歸啦 以後可以叫他單刀終結者!
瘋子10分有點太嗨 8分就很不錯啦 西瓜跟艾瑪的作用完全被低估...
(若不是進第一球沒多久他們就被發神經換掉 說不定後面根本不用心驚膽顫)
老馬說 下次瘋子跟西瓜不會同時上 貝隆也有可能回來
感覺有點不祥...... Orz
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推 nafaster:奧來報的評價也太兩極了吧XDD 10/12 04:35
推 centuria:Palermo那球不值得這麼高的評分吧 @@ 10/12 12:24
推 Riquelme:沒他這球 一堆人要掉腦袋 一堆人要哭死 不值那高分誰直? 10/12 14:48
推 jaguarxj:瘋子當年在國家隊那麼衰尾,也該轉轉運了 10/12 16:59
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作者: palacio (小辮子) 看板: Argentina
標題: Re: [ARG!] 阿根廷2比1秘魯賽後
時間: Mon Oct 12 17:05:07 2009
http://www.argstorm.com/shownews.asp?newsid=10931
帕勒莫 今天我們享受勝利
時間:2009-10-11 10:56:00 來源:阿根廷風暴 作者:woiwongfaye
博卡的救世主終於將他的絕殺搬進了國家隊,在幫助阿根廷在最後關頭拿下秘魯後,帕
勒莫無法抑制自己激動的情緒,他深情的親吻手臂,那上面有他逝去的愛子的名字,他瘋
狂的脫下球衣,這是他時隔十年之後,再次為藍白軍團進球,他大力的擁抱馬拉多納,感謝
他給了自己十年後重返國家隊的機會。感謝馬丁,你為阿根廷留住了晉級世界盃的希望。
賽後,帕勒莫在第一時間接受了採訪,談及這場比賽,他認為勝利來之不易:“一切都
很難,這場比賽,這麼大的風,這麼大的雨……我們今天一直很被動,一直被動到最後的
時刻。我不知道,這都是命,上天之靈在我最需要的時候給了我指引,給我信心,感謝上帝
我們獲得了勝利,說實話如果打平的話,那麼大家會非常失望,我們差一點就要出局。”
“我非常激動,是我兒子的上天之靈在護佑我。”博卡的射手眼含著熱淚表示,進球後
,帕勒莫再次深情親吻手臂上他那因流產而夭折的幼子姓名,以此來告慰愛子斯蒂法諾的在
天之靈。
“對於我來說,所有的進球都是超級重要的,每一個都有自己獨特的味道,我都非常享
受。但是這個進球是“無可比擬”的,因為這是我身穿藍白球衣而進的, 並且,還是在這
樣一個時刻。”十年之後能夠再次為國家隊進球,帕勒莫的二次國家隊之旅,註定比第一次
甜蜜:“我從不認為我的國家隊生涯就以99年為重點 了,我不想留下那樣苦澀和傷心的回
憶。足球就是這樣,十年之後,又給了我這樣的機會,一個新的可能。”帕勒莫坦言,不放
棄,才是他擁有今天的理由:“我一直默默等待,從不放棄,這是我從小被教育的信條,
是這樣的信念讓我走到了今天。”
當然,球員們也第一時間知道了烏拉圭對陣厄瓜多爾的比分,帕勒莫表示,週三更是決
戰:“現在該用週三的比賽給這段歷史畫上句號了。我們知道在烏拉圭, 那將是另一場決
賽,我們必須贏下對手來進軍世界盃。今天,我們可以享受勝利,但明早上開始我們就要開
始考慮第二場比賽了。”
最後,在談及他剛上場後遭遇到的那次撞擊時,帕勒莫表示當時他非常的害怕,“撞了
之後流了很多血,當時主要是擔心無法繼續堅持下去了。”
全世界媒體都非常關注阿根廷的世界盃突圍戰,各大媒體紛紛把溢美之詞獻給了老當益
壯的瘋子:《馬卡報》的題目是“帕勒莫以KO的方式拯救阿根廷”,形容帕勒莫的進球為
馬拉多納的球隊帶來了事關生死的三分。“現在阿根廷必須在烏拉圭的蒙特維多取勝了,請
準備好心臟急救藥劑” 。《阿斯報》則稱讚帕勒莫是“神奇的”,說“帕勒莫的進球避免
了秘魯人在屬於馬拉多納的夜晚成為主演”。《世界體育報》則認為“在這樣一場驚心動魄
的比賽 裡,伊瓜因和帕勒莫給阿根廷帶來了變數,最終要感謝瘋子在補時階段的進球,阿
根廷才贏得了比賽”。當然,作為加泰媒體,《世界體育報》不忘把頭條獻給梅西:“梅
西挽救阿根廷的第一個的‘賽點’”。
http://www.argstorm.com/shownews.asp?newsid=10936
馬斯切拉諾 帕勒莫該去世界盃
時間:2009-10-11 11:42:00 來源:阿根廷風暴 作者:潘帕斯storm
馬斯切拉諾:雖然歷經磨難,但最後時刻我們贏了。這場勝利對於最終晉級至關重要。
馬丁‧帕勒莫導演了這場不可思議的電影,我希望這不是完結,我希望他 能最終出現在世
界盃上。在他這個身高的球員裡,他是很有天賦的一個,正是為這種關鍵時刻而生的。他挽
救了我們大家。我們現在離出線很近,一切取決於我們。 考慮到其他場次的結果,今天的
這場勝利是前進道路上飛航關鍵的一步,現在主動權掌握在我們手上,接下來就看我們怎麼
打烏拉圭了。
艾瑪爾:我感到緊張又興奮,為那些流暢的時刻,為我有幸參與的第一個進球,以及為
最後時刻的救贖。馬丁總能出現在最需要的位置上,我經常要忍受他的進球。我很享受今天
。在烏拉圭的決戰將會是至關重要而艱險的。我和馬丁都有必勝的信念。
梅西:帕勒莫所做到的一切實在不可思議。無論如何,贏球是最重要的結果。上半場我
們表現很好,有幾次機會,如果抓住了,局勢會完全不同。下半場則是煎熬,萬幸馬丁(帕
勒莫)及時出現挽救了局勢。這是一場難以置信的勝利。今天他給我們帶來了莫大的喜悅,
我為他和全隊的表現都感到高興。
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作者: palacio (小辮子) 看板: Argentina
標題: Re: [ARG!] 老馬:聖帕勒莫拯救我們
時間: Mon Oct 12 17:09:57 2009
http://www.argstorm.com/shownews.asp?newsid=10937
馬拉多納 “聖帕勒莫”讓我們重獲新生
時間:2009-10-11 11:50:00 來源:阿根廷風暴 作者:琴蕭一曲
馬拉多納像一個球員那樣慶祝對秘魯隊的勝利。他沖向球場,滑行著,尖叫著,跑著去
擁抱所有的替補球員。然後在新聞發佈會上亮相時,國家隊主教練分析了這場勝利。雖然他
對取得三分非常滿意,卻仍然保持著謹慎:“對於那些不滿意國家隊的人,我想說對不起。
”
迭戈也承認是馬丁‧帕勒莫拯救了他們,他毫不吝嗇對“瘋子”的讚美之詞。並且說阿
根廷進軍世界盃的機會沒有改變。“‘瘋子’來到了紀念碑球場,向我們伸出了援手。他是
最偉大的球員。”
“當風雨來臨時,越來越冷的天氣幫助秘魯扳平了比分,我們從沒預料到會這樣,這讓
我們無能為力。但是聖‧帕勒莫的奇跡讓我們活了下來。”馬拉多納在新聞發佈會裡這樣說
道。
“這是一場非常戲劇化的比賽,幸好我們勝利了。‘瘋子’在河床的球場接受歡呼,而
秘魯根本不值得獲得一場平局。”但是馬拉多納也承認自己的國家隊在主場踢得不太好:“
我們沒有球、拿不到球,沒能保持住領先,也沒再創造出進球的機會。這一切都是錯誤。”
“最後帕勒莫的進球拯救了我們。至於秘魯隊,他們沒有製造出什麼實際上的威脅,只
是靠著一個本該出底線的球攻破了我們的球門。”他補充道。
當馬拉多納被問到他是否也進過一個像帕勒莫今天進的那樣的球,迭戈笑了笑,說自己
從來沒有上演過奇跡。“我進的球都很平常,帕勒莫則是創造了奇跡。” 馬拉多納咧開嘴
大笑。“我能如何評價帕勒莫呢!在中場休息時,我走過去告訴他去吧,去創造歷史,就像
他曾經許許多多次做的那樣。他看著我,於是我要求他在 球場裡站的比‘皮皮塔(伊瓜因
)’更靠前。”馬拉多納這樣說。 事實是帕勒莫拯救了馬拉多納,拯救了整只阿根廷隊,
整個教練組,所有人。因為對秘魯的賽前準備可謂一團糟,到了比賽仍然沒有做出任何改變
。 在馬拉多納和比拉爾多的矛盾、球員們糟糕的態度、和從來不能改變比賽的換人之中,
今晚勝利的價值遠不止是一個“秘魯”。
在比賽時,紀念碑球場的球迷因為球員們糟糕的表現和比賽態度而噓聲滿滿。“坐在河
床紀念碑球場裡的每個人也許都有自己的想法,我尊重他們,但是我必須 向前看。”馬拉
多納這樣看。“事實是當秘魯扳平比分時,我意料到最糟糕的事情發生了。但是‘聖‧帕勒
莫’總會在這個時候出現。今天我們要開始想著星期三與烏拉圭隊的比賽了。”馬拉多納
指出。
下星期三阿根廷國家隊將迎戰通向世界盃的最後一場比賽,打平也許也能不通過附加賽
而直接晉級世界盃,但馬拉多納還沒仔細算過積分形勢呢。
考慮到下一個對手,烏拉圭,他們剛剛2比1擊敗厄瓜多爾,現積24分,馬拉多納總結說
:“現在我們將前往烏拉圭完成預選賽的最後一場比賽,我們將帶著自豪前往那裡,並且
在那裡捍衛我們的榮譽。如果我們在對秘魯的比賽中進了5個球,就能更放鬆一些,但是現
在只獲得了1個淨勝球,我們將為生命而戰。”國家隊主教練這樣說。此外,他仍然護著梅
西,儘管梅西踢得並不理想:“我不懷疑里奧的水準,我也曾經在那樣的球場踢過球,我在
馬德普拉塔球場踢球時也刮著風下著雨,在相同的狀況下我甚至碰不到球,對於里奧來說
也是一樣。在我看來梅西踢得很好,我將繼續派他上場。”馬拉多納說。
老馬表示伊瓜因和帕勒莫將不會在烏拉圭蒙得維迪亞中央球場一起上場,並且他需要看
看當貝隆禁賽完畢重返國家隊以後,自己應該如何調整球隊陣容。
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推 nafaster:"聖‧帕勒莫" XD 瘋子進球後已經神格化了! 10/13 00:47
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作者: Verve ( 上升 沉默的你) 看板: Argentina
標題: [ARG!] Ole報民調
時間: Tue Oct 13 14:51:51 2009
http://www.herramientas.clarin.com/webservice/votarOlev4.jsp?encId=8600
國家隊對烏拉圭預測(目前投票人數 77337):
25.4% 一定會贏
31.5% 保平晉級
26.0% 輸球,打附加賽
17.1% 再見南非
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推 nofumi:票都賣不出去了||||| 星期四真的是地獄客場 10/13 20:58
→ nofumi:主場球迷4萬5張票完售 客場的阿根廷聽說只賣出1000張..... 10/13 21:00
推 nafaster:.....阿根廷加油啊~~ 10/13 21:34
推 Sebastian:客場晉級會內賽才能激勵老馬士氣 10/13 21:40
→ Verve:唉,老馬本人的士氣一直是破表狀態啊 10/13 23:09
→ apa9394:老馬還沒用精神技能嗎 嘖嘖 10/14 09:58
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作者: Okiayurai (馬車道最高!!) 看板: Argentina
標題: [ARG!] Maradona Set To Make Four Changes
時間: Wed Oct 14 08:32:48 2009
Goal.com
http://tinyurl.com/yz3fdou
Diego Maradona Set To Make Four Changes Ahead Of Decisive Uruguay Clash
'El Pibe de Oro' has modified his side in an attempt to secure World Cup
qualification...
Diego Maradona, the coach of the Argentine national team, will likely field a
defensive-minded side for the crucial clash with rivals Uruguay that will
determine Argentina's World Cup fate.
Maradona wasn't happy with the way in which his side played against Peru on
Saturday, and because of this will make four changes to his side. In will
come Martin Demichelis, Nicolas Otamendi, Rodrigo Brana and Juan Sebastian
Veron.
The coach may also make some final-minute alterations, and this could mean
that Nicolas Pareja could also be part of the starting XI. This indicates
that Argentina will be looking for a draw in Montevideo, a result that will
send them directly to South Africa.
Maradona will approach the game with a 4-4-2 scheme, which is highly
conservative, considering what has been seen in previous games.
Argentina have struggled in Montevideo over the years, having lost 1-0 the
last time the two teams met in this identical fixture four years ago.
Below is how Argentina will look like:
Romero, Demichelis, Schiavi, Heinze, Otamendi, Mascherano, Gutierrez, Brana,
Veron, Messi and Higuain.
Gregory Sica, Goal.com
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推 trilvie:我真不懂 對秘魯已經是打得比較好的一仗了 他在不滿什麼 10/14 14:55
→ trilvie:這下我們又要回到之前輸球的陣容了嗎? 10/14 14:55
推 nafaster:Aimar........(翻桌) 10/14 18:24
推 nafaster:希望老馬陣容在最後一場能順利贏球啊~~(祈禱) 10/14 18:39
推 Verve:傳言智利明天派替補出陣,這下只有靠自己了 10/14 20:38
推 jaguarxj:又在要命的比賽放上歐塔門迪。出奇兵是賭命啊 10/14 22:00
推 Janyazero:集氣~~ 10/14 23:13
→ centuria:只能禱告了 10/14 23:51
推 Sebastian:我有信心!!! Vamos Argentina!!!! 10/15 02:10
推 nafaster: Vamos Argentina!!!! 10/15 03:29
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作者: Okiayurai (馬車道最高!!) 看板: Argentina
標題: [球員] Messi
時間: Wed Oct 14 10:39:28 2009
Lionel Messi Official Blog
http://ameblo.jp/leo-messi/entry-10363727008.html
唯一
哈囉
我想大家都知道阿根廷的狀況了。
在艱苦中贏得與祕魯的比賽讓我感到高興,現在我唯一能說的,就是要在最後和烏拉圭的
比賽中取得世界盃參賽資格,除此之外什麼都沒有。
Leo
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Goal.com
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Lionel Messi Cannot Orchestrate For Argentina - Cesar Menotti
Argentina's tactics and inability to prepare are the reasons Messi cannot
perform for the national team. In addition, Menotti believes that the
Barcelona star is expected to do everything for the team...
Cesar Menotti has hit out at Lionel Messi's critics, stating that the
Barcelona star is able to play for his club but has to run and run for his
national team.
The veteran trainer, who led the Albiceleste to World Cup glory in 1978,
thinks that blaming the diminutive Blaugrana forward is unacceptable because
of his differing roles with club and country.
Despite helping Argentina to a crucial win at the weekend, Messi was again
highlighted as under-performing, and that has drawn Menotti's ire.
"Argentina do not yet have a functioning team. They have not had the time to
find that unity and team play," he told Sport.
"That is completely different from the way that Messi does things with
Barcelona. He started at the club, then was on the bench and then began to
play for a few minutes before claiming a regular place.
"Messi is not responsible for the strategy at Barcelona. That is [Andres]
Iniesta, Xavi and [Yaya] Toure.
"Messi is the one that completes the moves.
"When it comes to Argentina they expect Messi to cope with he strategy of the
team, to create goals and score them, to do everything.
"The team runs around a lot because they play badly. There they need to run
more. But this is a football team, not a marathon club.
"Messi plays for Barcelona, but [with] Argentina he runs."
Menotti then explained why he feels that Diego Maradona has been unable to
create a team out of so many stars.
"The team has not yet reached the level that was expected. The Argentina side
have not had a coach for a long time," he continued.
"Not because they do not know how to, but because they are not able to
because there is not enough time as all the players are in Europe.
"You cannot direct a great orchestra if the musicians are in Roma and the
conductor is in Buenos Aires."
Lucas Brown, Goal.com
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Goal.com
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Argentina Fans Criticise Messi As They Dare Not Criticise Maradona -
Barcelona Director Perrin
Playing overseas does not help Messi, according to the director...
Barcelona director Albert Perrin has declared that criticism is being
directed at Lionel Messi from some quarters in Argentina, because they dare
not criticise coach Diego Maradona, according to Marca.
Argentina have struggled through the World Cup qualifying campaign to this
point, and they go into their last game needing a victory over Uruguay in
Montevideo to guarantee their spot at the finals in South Africa.
Unfortunately for his sake, Messi has borne the brunt of the fans'
frustration at the Albicelestes lacklustre performances.
"The coach is none other than Maradona. The figurehead of the national
selection is Maradona and criticising him is difficult, so instead they
criticise the head of the team [Messi]," Perrin said.
He also suggested that because Messi is not based in Argentina, he has no
hometown support to defend him, and as a result is subjected to criticism
from all angles.
He added, "Messi, unlike other players, has no home support. Messi has not
recently left a team like Boca [Juniors] or River [Plate] or Velez. He plays
at Barcelona and has no fans there, which is a handicap to him."
Paul Madden, Goal.com
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Goal.com
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Lionel Cannot Beat Uruguay On His Own - Messi Senior
The forward is under pressure to perform and his dad thinks it's about time
that other players took some responsibility too...
Lionel Messi's father believes that his son cannot be expected to win games
for Argentina by himself, but he is still confident that the team will
qualify for the World Cup Finals.
The Barcelona star has been accused of under-performing for his country, as
the Albiceleste have struggled to impress in the South American qualifying
group.
While many have defended Messi, his father has now added his voice to those
stating that he cannot do everything by himself and should not be a scapegoat
for the team's failings.
"Leo cannot win this game on his own and nor can any other," he told ONA FM
"If nobody pushes forward, then it will be very difficult to win. A team is
eleven players and the whole side has to perform.
"We are slightly annoyed with everything that he been said recently, but we
have remained calm," he added.
"The only thing that Leo is thinking about is what he has always dreamt of
and that is helping Argentina reach the World Cup Finals.
"It is normal here in Argentina. The only thing that everyone wants is to see
the team qualify and from there, the reasons can be looked into and
accusations made."
Argentina take on Uruguay in a blockbusting winner takes all encounter on
Wednesday evening and Messi senior insists he is confident, despite the
difficulties the team will face in Montevideo.
"We are excited by things, but we also know that they are complicated," he
continued.
"Like the rest of Argentina, we do not understand how things have come to
this. We hope and believe that everything will work out fine."
Lucas Brown, Goal.com
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