→ frannica:唉...去把女性主義了解一下再來扯女性主義好嗎? 08/29 17:01
→ barbmarco:You can only see Pseudo-Feminism in Taiwan. 08/29 17:02
→ frannica:女性主義再怎麼延伸都不可能變公主病的。一個強調女生要 08/29 17:02
→ frannica:獨立自主的東西要怎麼延伸為吃男人用男人的? 08/29 17:02
→ barbmarco:Your money is mine, my money is still mine 08/29 17:04
→ barbmarco:That's the definition of "Feminism" in Taiwan ^^ 08/29 17:05
→ meiyaya:樓上 那是你在說的 你是那種人嗎 別這樣亂戴帽子 08/29 17:06
→ hobbymarti:所以才說是過多的延伸.... 08/29 17:06
→ meiyaya:那我們可以不要過多的延伸嗎 為什麼一定要這樣 08/29 17:07
→ frannica:樹枝長太長會變泥土嗎?不會嘛...再次拜託你去把女性主義 08/29 17:08
→ barbmarco:Many girls don't understand if they take the path of 08/29 17:08
→ frannica:弄清楚 08/29 17:08
→ lovesickness:那不叫過度延伸 那是誤用 而且誤很大 08/29 17:08
→ frannica:基本上公主病是違反女性主義的東西,你去了解就知道了 08/29 17:08
→ barbmarco:Feminism they must get rid of some advantages in the 08/29 17:08
→ barbmarco:past, but they did not do that. 08/29 17:09
→ meiyaya:那你也不能直接說'這就是台灣的女性主義'阿 你把真正的 08/29 17:09
→ meiyaya:女性主義者放哪了 把自己賺錢養家的女人們放哪了 08/29 17:10
→ barbmarco:Pseudo-Feminism Pseudo-Feminism Pseudo-Feminism 08/29 17:10
→ meiyaya:那你一開始就說是'偽' 會很難嗎 08/29 17:11
→ barbmarco:There are very very few Feminists in Taiwan ^^ 08/29 17:11
→ frannica:某人的推文讓我想到蔡依林的笑話,哈哈 08/29 17:11
→ ssnlee:是嗎?f小姐?女性主義告訴女人要有自信,但自信過頭了, 08/29 17:11
→ ssnlee:就變成。公主病中自認為集三千寵愛於一身,條件很好。 08/29 17:11
→ barbmarco:I did it in the 2nd sentence. Is there anything 08/29 17:12
→ barbmarco:wrong with your eyes? 08/29 17:12
→ frannica:你覺得自我中心跟自信是一樣的東西嗎? 08/29 17:12
→ frannica:真正的自信不需要靠別人的寵愛跟卑躬屈膝來達成 08/29 17:13
→ barbmarco:over self-confidence may drive to the result of 08/29 17:13
→ barbmarco:self-centered 08/29 17:13
→ frannica:如果那些小公主們真的覺得自己很美很棒,就不需要男人的 08/29 17:14
→ ssnlee:那是自信過頭產生的東西,不要和我扯自我中心來模糊焦點 08/29 17:14
→ frannica:眼光、男人的奉承來證實。我甚至可以說這些小公主沒自信 08/29 17:14
→ frannica:因為沒自信,所以需要靠撂奪男人來說服自己說自己有魅力 08/29 17:15
→ ssnlee:自信過頭了,的確是不需要別人來肯定他就能自成一格的自hi 08/29 17:15
→ frannica:如果你要批公主病患我是無話可說,但是要扯女性主義 08/29 17:16
→ frannica:請你先去把書唸好。不然我還蠻懶得跟你多說的 08/29 17:16
→ ssnlee:你是講不過不要放大絕,謝謝指教。 08/29 17:17
→ barbmarco:I think frannica knows nothing about Feminism at all 08/29 17:17
→ hobbymarti:別動怒 不管什麼主義 都是要尊重他人的好麼? 08/29 17:17
→ barbmarco:She is only one of those Pseudo-Feminists in Taiwan. 08/29 17:18
→ hobbymarti:還有 現階段很多女性的確是拿著女性主義做擋箭牌 08/29 17:18
→ barbmarco:hobbymarti, those girls are Pseudo-Feminists. 08/29 17:18
→ hobbymarti:老實說公主病就是想所有的好處通吃 包括女性主義 08/29 17:18
→ meiyaya:我覺得阿 如果知道什麼是真正的女性主義 就可以去嗆那些 08/29 17:18
→ barbmarco:They ruined Feminism and their action cause the 08/29 17:19
→ meiyaya:拿女性主義做擋箭牌的人啦 跟她說'妳少裝女性主義了' 08/29 17:19
→ barbmarco:media, and common motrals to misunderstand the true 08/29 17:19
→ barbmarco:definition of Feminism 08/29 17:19
→ ssnlee:女權鼓吹自信,自信過頭就產生公主的自hi。故公主是女權 08/29 17:20
→ ssnlee:過度引申後的產品。這和自我中心是無關的,自我中心的人 08/29 17:20
→ ssnlee:不一定有自信。 08/29 17:20
→ barbmarco:and I have to say, worship is a word that has no 08/29 17:21
→ barbmarco:relations with gender. frannica's speech is quite.. 08/29 17:22
→ frannica:hobbymarti,我沒有動怒。只是我覺得討論某個東西時,雙 08/29 17:23
→ frannica:方對那個東西都要有相當的了解而非成見。不然只會淪為鬼 08/29 17:23
→ frannica:打牆,那很浪費時間。 08/29 17:23
→ hobbymarti:書名是女性主義的書我沒看過 但是相關的書籍我是接觸過 08/29 17:24
→ hobbymarti:不少的 因為本人家姐就是個女性主義者(自稱) 08/29 17:24
→ hobbymarti:這討論串最令我傷感的是沒半個推....囧 08/29 17:24
→ barbmarco:Let me repeat please. There are very very very 08/29 17:24
→ lovesickness:哪一個流派的女性主義鼓吹自信啊?不太瞭解... 08/29 17:25
→ barbmarco:few TRUE Feminists in Taiwan 08/29 17:25
→ ssnlee:少來了你老上次也是這德性,不是在說你急著跳下來,跳下 08/29 17:26
→ ssnlee:來才發現這洞不是給你的,然後開始拷大絕,模式很固定, 08/29 17:26
→ ssnlee:論點很好破。 08/29 17:26
→ barbmarco:You don't need to treat her seriously Mr.ssnlee. 08/29 17:27
推 frannica:好吧 @@ 給你一個推~ 08/29 17:27
→ barbmarco:She's just a passer-by, isn't it? 08/29 17:27
推 meiyaya:別難過啦 推你一下咩 08/29 17:28
→ frannica:如果令姊是真的對女性主義有涉獵,可以請她推薦書給你~ 08/29 17:29
→ yaokut:現在男生很少動手 動手原因不在現在或以前 在個人吧 08/29 17:29
→ hobbymarti:嗯 書讀多是好一點的.... 08/29 17:30
→ ssnlee:bar我這次算很小力了。 08/29 17:30
→ barbmarco:I bet 1000 ptt dollars that your sister doesn't not 08/29 17:30
→ barbmarco:doesn't have those books at all. LOL 08/29 17:31
推 linyacat:我想推「尊重是唯一道路」這句話,我覺得說得很好!! 08/29 17:59
→ barbmarco:呵呵, 那就要知道那些"新時代女性"(絕對是眨義我跟你說) 08/29 22:01
→ barbmarco:的"尊重" 的定義了 :D 08/29 22:01