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因為有大零學弟 (還沒開學, 不算大一. :)) 問我 transfer lebensohl 然後抱怨 說精華區裡找不到, 所以我就貼一份上來. 不過我這一份已經很舊了, 是六年前去 紐西蘭參加遠東盃時用的. 現在詐叫隊和滷平王等人應該有更新的版本. 以下也是我六七年前貼在 BBS 上的. 現在回頭看真覺得有點好笑. :) 大家補充吧. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Transfer Lebensohl 與一般 Lebensohl 比較, 最大優點在於: 它可以分別表示 出束叫、邀請、和迫叫牌力的牌。 例如: 同伴開叫 1NT 而 rho 插叫 2S, 此時一般的 Lebensohl 用法為先叫 2NT puppet to 3C 再叫 3H 為 sign off。而 2S 之後直接叫 3H 為迫叫。那邀請的 牌怎麼叫? 二者猜一個叫吧! 看自己的牌感是好是壞。 若使用 Transfer Lebensohl, 則叫三方塊表示紅心牌組, 邀請或迫叫成局的牌。 如果同伴接受邀請, 則直接越過三紅心表示接受邀請。不接受邀請則叫 3H; 如果 自己原來只是邀請的牌即可 pass, 否則繼續叫牌就可讓同伴知道一定要叫到一個 game 才可以停下來。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.twbbs.org) ◆ From: ms10.hinet.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: jmc (cryptomatician) 看板: BridgeClub 標題: Re: Transfer Lebensohl 時間: Thu Sep 14 00:00:44 2000 Transfer Lebensohl After (1) 1NT (2X) ? (2) (2X) Dbl (P) ? (3) (1X) Dbl (2X) ? (a) X = Diamonds/Hearts/Spades. 2Suit: To play. 2NT: Puppet to 3C -> Pass /Lower Suit: To play. Higher Suit: CoG with long suit and stopper. Cue: CLUBS. FG. No stopper. 3NT+: CLUBS. Slammish with stopper. 3C: Transfer to D. INV or better. * 3D: Transfer to H. INV or better. * 3H: Transfer to S. INV or better. * * If transfer to opp's -> Stayman. 3S: Ask for stopper. Usu. spl. opp's. 3NT: To play. 4m: Leaping Michaels. 5-5 up. ( X=M: 4C=C+oM. 4D=D+oM. X=D: 4C=C+One major. 4D=H+S.) 4M: Unbid: NAT. with stopper. Jump Cue: Minors. Strong. 4NT: Minors. (Weak if X=M.) NOTE: If opp "transfer" (=Substitute bid.) -> Same. Cue opp's at 2 level = T/O. Weakish. (b) X = Clubs. 2D/2H/2S: To play. 2NT: DIAMONDS. CoG with stopper OR INV.(Usu. no stopper.) -> 3C=Accept. 3D=Decline. 3C: Stayman 3D: Transfer to H. INV or better. 3H: Transfer to S. INV or better. 3S: DIAMONDS. FG. No stopper. 3NT: To play. 4m: Leaping Michaels. 4M: NAT. with stopper. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.twbbs.org) ◆ From: ms10.hinet.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: jmc (cryptomatician) 看板: BridgeClub 標題: Re: Transfer Lebensohl 時間: Thu Sep 14 00:05:37 2000 Q & A ...... (a) X = Diamonds/Hearts/Spades. 2Suit: To play. 2NT: Puppet to 3C -> Pass /Lower Suit: To play. Higher Suit: CoG with long suit and stopper. Cue: CLUBS. FG. No stopper. 3NT+: CLUBS. Slammish with stopper. Q1: then still I have to guess if my club is invitational or game force? because pass is to play and cuebid is to force. A: Yes; the situation is not perfect, but at least you are no worse off than those who uses straight lebensohl. As a safeguard, the opener has the option of rebidding 3 DIAMONDS instead of 3 CLUBS when holding very good support for clubs. [Responder now can sign off in 4C.] 3C/D/H: Transfer to D/H/S. INV or better. * Q2: What is the response of opener to 3C/3D/3H? Forcing him to bid 3D/3H/3S? Or, if open accepts, bid 4C/4H/4S to show a max? Does 3C/3D/3H responses promise stopper(s) in opponent suit? How to show stopper in this case? Stopper is important when 3nt makes but minor game doesn't. A: When the opener intends to accept an invite s/he must bid something other than a meek acceptance of the transfer. E.g. over 1N(2S)3D, opener may bid 4H directly, or cue-bid, with support, 3N with no stopper but a good max, and 3S with a max without support or stop. Assuming that the opener declines and that responder's suit is LOWER than overcalled suit, responder may cue-bid as Choice of Games, without a stopper, or bid NT with a stopper; whereas if responder's suit is HIGHER, 3NT after the transfer DENY a stopper as with the stopper s/he would first bid 2NT then the suit. If the opener wish to accept the invite yet does not have a stopper after the sequence 1N(2H)3H, we agree that there is a problem! However, this is no worse than "Standard" bidders who bid 1N(2H)3S. Also, if you also adopt optional doubles, you can double and bid 3S with an invite with a stopper, so that opener can judge. * If transfer to opp's -> Stayman. Q3: Suppose it goes: 1N-2D-3C!-p-3H-p-, but responder has NO stopper and 4card spades, how does he proceed from here? A: One way of bidding after 1N(2D)3C goes as follows: 3D: HEARTS, not spades. 3H: SPADES, not hearts. 3S: No stopper and no major. 3N: A stopper and no major. 4C: BOTH majors, ask responder to TRANSFER into a major. 4D: BOTH majors, ask responder to BID a major. 3S: Ask for stopper. Usu. spl. opp's. 3NT: To play. 4m: Leaping Michaels. 5-5 up. ( X=M: 4C=C+oM. 4D=D+oM. X=D: 4C=C+One major. 4D=H+S.) A: Takeout. 1N(2D*)2S, where 2D is Astro (S+another) shows a weakish 1-4-4-4, or perhaps 1-4-3-5 or 1-4-5-3. (b) X = Clubs. 2D/2H/2S: To play. 2NT: DIAMONDS. CoG with stopper OR INV.(Usu. no stopper.) -> 3C=Accept. 3D=Decline. Q5: 3C=accept means accepting d as suit or accepting the game? A: accepting an invite if diamonds is the suit. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.twbbs.org) ◆ From: ms10.hinet.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: terrorist (㊣忠烈份子) 看板: BridgeClub 標題: seems to work now 時間: Mon Sep 25 14:21:46 2000 WHEW! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.twbbs.org) ◆ From: miranda.math.tku.edu.tw.113.13.