(乙) Matchpts. Both vul. S:865 H:KQ6 D:KJ9 C:J1062 1D-(1S)-?
: (a) pass; then, after (2S)-Pass-(Pass)-?
: (a1) pass, (a2) double, (a3) 3D, (a4) other.
: (b) double; then, after (2S)-3H-(Pass)-?
: (b1) pass, (b2) 3S, (b3) 4D, (b4) other.
: (c) 2C. (d) 2D. (e) other.
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(a) pass; then, after (2S)-Pass-(Pass)-?
(a1) pass, (a2) double, (a3) 3D, (a4) other.
(b) double; then, after (2S)-3H-(Pass)-?
(b1) pass, (b2) 3S, (b3) 4D, (b4) other.
(c) 2C. (d) 2D. (e) other.
叫品 得分 專家 讀者
(d) 2D 100 13 17%
(b1) D,P 90 9 45%
(b3) D,4D 70 1 13%
(a2) P,D 60 5 21%
(a4) P,2N 50 1 1%
(a3) P,3D 50 1 3%
(c) 2C 20 0 0%
(b2) D,3S 20 0 0%
Director: Jeff Rubens, director
Grant Baze La Jolla, CA (d)
David Berkowitz NJ (d)
Bart Bramley Chicago (b1)
Ira Chorush Houston, TX (a2)
Larry Cohen NJ (b1)
Mark Cohen Glen Ridge, NJ (b1)
Billy Eisenberg Florida (a4;2NT)
The Granovetters Israel (b1)
Jim Hall Minneapolis (d)
Fred Hamilton Fresno, CA (d)
Carl Hudecek Perrysburg, OH (a2)
Edwin Kantar California (b1)
Edgar Kaplan NYC (a2)
Ralph Katz Burr Ridge, IL (d)
Sami R. Kehela Toronto (d)
Eric Kokish Montreal (d)
Marshall Miles California (b1)
Kitty Munson NYC (d)
Arthur Robinson Villanova, PA (a2)
Michael Rosenberg NYC (b1)
Al Roth Boca Raton, FL (d)
Jeff Rubens Scarsdale, NY (d)
Ira Rubin Paramus, NJ (d)
Mike Shuman California (b3)
Joseph Silver Montreal (b1)
John Swanson California (d)
Robert Wolff Dallas (b1)
Kit Woolsey Kensington, CA (a2)
Fumio Yagi Redmond, WA (a3)
Mahmood Zia NYC (d)
I thought I'd be defending a minority position here, with the
pusillanimous passers and the demon doublers carrying the day. But
the simple-minded single-raisers win. Hooray for the good guys!
KATZ: "(d) Two diamonds. I might be a diamond light. If they bid two
spades, I'll double."
RUBIN: "(d) Two diamonds. Easy! The five-card-major thinking
underlying passing is fallacious."
HAMILTON: "(d) Two diamonds. You cannot double safely with only three
hearts. You cannot describe your hand well after passing."
BAZE: "(d) Two diamonds. Simplest is best. Anything else is
cumbersome, complicated or just plain wrong."
ROTH: "(d) Two diamonds. I never bid with a bad hand, and I'm not
worried about a three-three fit. The most likely game is three
notrump, and two diamonds gives us the best chance to get there."
KEHELA: "(d) Two diamonds. The simple value bid. What's that? It's
matchpoints? Sorry, too late."
HALL: "(d) Two diamonds. Why has our five-card-major system made it
so difficult for us to raise opener's minor on three-card support?
Here, we have king-jack-nine of trumps, 10 points, and no reasonable
alternative."
SWANSON: "(d) Two diamonds. Despite 10 HCP, this is a very poor
offensive hand. Passing does nothing towards describing the values."
BERKOWITZ: "(d) Two diamonds, then double, seems to be the most
accurate description. So I owe him a diamond; so sue me."
If you lose the case, you can claim the damages are minimal because
you provided king-jack-nine.
ZIA: "(d) Two diamonds. An easy action in Europe, where they don't
have the U.S. phobia of not raising a minor with three.''
KOKISH: "(d) Two diamonds. I would double if that showed values, but
in BWS it shows shape, and the repercussions can be serious. Pass
leaves you trying to catch up later with no genuine way to do it."
How do the passers plan to cope?
WOOLSEY: "(a2) Pass, then double. No immediate bid is attractive. I
have found that passing, then cue-bidding after partner doubles, is
the best way to handle this sort of hand. After two spades--pass--
pass--?, South is too strong to sell out; and no call other than
double makes sense."
But what sense does that double make? Doesn't it show spades?
Chorush, who supported Woolsey's cue-bid plan, says BWS should define
the delayed double as 9-11, no stop, no hearts, no diamonds.
HUDECEK: "(a2) Pass, then double. Pass first so as not to exaggerate
the strength."
Another way to travel on the delayed road:
EISENBERG: "(a4) Pass, then two no-trump. Impossible for two notrump
to be natural."
Kokish suggested that this sequence should show five clubs plus
diamonds. I don't see much use in showing a hand that would have a
qualified for a two-diamond raise in the first place. An alternative
approach is to use the delayed two notrump to show a hand with big
shape, too weak for a negative double on the first round, something
resembling, S:x H:Jxxxx D:x C:Q10xxxx.
The doublers argued mostly on a least-of-evils basis.
BRAMLEY: "(b1) Double, then pass. Lying by a heart is a smaller sin
than lying by 10 HCP (by passing). If I pass, many continuations other
than the one in the conditions are revolting. In contrast, if I double
and partner bids hearts I feel only mild discomfort."
M. COHEN: "(b1) Double, then pass. The least of many evils, even
though we could be in a three-three fit."
ROSENBERG: "(b1) Double, then pass. Pass doesn't seem to solve the
problems of this hand. At IMPs, I might bid two clubs (preferred) or
two diamonds, but at matchpoints I must try for one notrump. Any (b)-
plan other than (b1) is a misbid or an overbid. Maybe they will bid
three spades (I won't double)."
L. COHEN: "(b1) Double, then pass. I have to start with double to get
my values off my chest. Passing first will make it too hard to catch
up. I'll pass three hearts rather than try for a touch-and-go game at
matchpoints. Maybe plus 170 will be a fine score. It would help to be
playing the Good-Bad Two Notrump, where partner's three hearts shows
extra values (he would bid two notrump with a merely competitive
hand)."
SILVER: "(b1) Double, then pass. With a hand too strong to pass but no
suit of my own, double seems a logical choice. On the next round, I
won't punish our side by increasing the chance of a minus score."
GRANOVETTER's: "(b1) Double, then pass. ... How can you support
diamonds playing five-card majors?"
It's easy. When East shows length in spades and we have so many, we
deduce it is unlikely that partner was dealt four spades. When East
shows strength and we have so much ourselves, we deduce an increased
likelihood that North opened on shape, i.e., diamonds. We don't
pretend that one notrump won't sometimes be right (with a double by
South the only way to get there), but we do claim that this won't be
the case too often. We do not seek opportunities to raise diamonds
with only three. I am confident that everyone who bid two diamonds
would have bid one notrump if East had passed.
A more aggressive doubler:
SHUMAN: "(b3) Double, then four diamonds. My second call is awkward.
I must avoid a slooooow three spades."
Complaint Department:
WOLFF: "(b1) Double, then pass. Typically difficult negative-double
situation."
Only if you put yourself into it.
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