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Ethan Skolnick: Lakers under the microscope, but Heat say it’s nothing like what they went through http://m.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/basketball/ethan-skolnick-lakers-under-the-microscope-but-hea/nTsQ5/ PORTLAND — To you, the Heat observer, it might all appear somewhat familiar. The debating, pontificating, hyperventilating. The obsession about one team in 30, to the exclusion of all others. Pick a day, and a time, turn on ESPN, and brace for long-winded, unending discussions about any and every actual and invented angle related to the lost, losing, lousy Los Angeles Lakers, who currently rank 11th in the Western Conference. So, yes, you might see some similarity to what the Heat experienced during the 2010-11 and even the 2011-12 season, after the assemblage of a squad of proven stars, and before their championship breakthrough. LeBron James, however, does not. Not quite. “Nope,” James said Thursday, hours before the Heat played the Trail Blazers. “No, no, no, no. No one will ever be able to compare it to what we went through. “Even though they’re not winning, and they’re losing of lot of games, that level of magnitude is nowhere near to where ours was two years ago. Nothing. Nothing compares to it.” And, in his view, nothing will again. Well, almost nothing. “Unless, I don’t know, unless Kevin Durant … Chris Paul and Dwight Howard and, I don’t know, Damian Lillard came back all together,” James said, laughing, and adding that last name, of the Portland rookie guard, to account for his present surroundings. Still, it’s been hard not to notice that ESPN has toned down its temperature-taking tendencies when it comes to the Heat, since it has inserted thermometers into the throats – among other places – of all the prominent Lakers. That doesn’t surprise James. “It’s the history of the game,” he said. “They’ve done so much for the history of the game, everyone wants them to be good. It’s like there was a lot of focus when the Knicks weren’t winning as much in the early 2000s. Even though there were so many great stories, everybody wanted the Knicks to win. “Like Boston. When Boston was struggling in the early 2000s, everybody wanted them to be good.” James noted that, in his view, the Lakers have four Hall of Famers in Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol and Dwight Howard. “Everybody is like, what’s going on?” James said. “Even the Laker team that went to the Finals and lost (in 2004), with (Gary Payton), Karl Malone, Kobe and Shaq, they had four Hall of Famers. They lost but at least they were playing well.” Dwyane Wade also has tracked the national frenzy over the Lakers, whom the Heat will finally see next Thursday in Los Angeles. “You know, they’re America’s basketball team,” he said. “They are the standard of what the NBA has been for years. Boston and the Lakers, but the Lakers is L.A., the big market. So from that standpoint, you get it, you understand it. “I know No. 24 (Bryant) understands it, it’s the nature of the beast out there in L.A. I don’t know if every player out in L.A. understands what you’ re getting into when you walk through those doors.” But Wade agrees with James’ assertion that the Heat were scrutinized even more closely. “Starting off early, because of everything that happened in 2010 with offseason signings, automatically right away, there were a lot of negative things that were said about us,” said Wade, speaking of a 2010-11 Heat squad that started 9-8. “The Lakers didn’t go through that in the beginning, they didn’t go through the negative about bringing those guys together. So ours started off bad, and it stayed bad for a while and then we got better.” Will the Lakers? “Any team that can get to the heart of the matter and deal with the matter yourselves, without getting distracted by all the other opinions and voices, the better chance you have of fixing what you need to fix,” Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. Until then, probably best to stay clear of SportsCenter. 外界認為,本賽季集齊數名巨星的湖人隊與2010-11賽季的熱火有相似之處, 但LBJ並不這樣認為。LBJ認為湖人現在遭遇的情境比自己球隊2年前的境遇好很多。 WADE也贊同LBJ的觀點。 外界認為,本賽季集齊數名巨星的湖人隊與2010-11賽季的熱火有相似之處,在他們拿到 冠軍實現突破之前。 但當事人之一, LBJ卻並不這麼認為。 “不不不,”LBJ在週四對陣拓荒者隊的比賽前說道,“沒有人能將它和我們當時的境遇 相比。” 在他看來,這樣的事情幾乎不會再發生。 “除非,我也不知道,除非...KD、CP3和DH12組在了一起, ”LBJ笑著說,並加上了拓荒者控衛 Lillard的名字。 “即使他們現在不能贏球,輸了很多比賽,那遠比不上我們那時候的遭遇。” “這和歷史有關,”對於湖人隊最近表現備受關注,LBJ給出了自己的觀點,“他們為這 項比賽的歷史貢獻了很多,每個人都希望他們能變好。就像本世紀初的尼克,他們不再 能贏得那麼多比賽,這引起了很多關注。儘管還有其他很多偉大的故事,每個人還是希望 尼克能夠贏球。” “還有波士頓,他們在本世紀初陷入掙扎的時候,人們也希望他們能夠好轉。” LBJ還指出,在自己看來,湖人隊擁有4位名人堂球員,KOBE、NASH、GASOL和HOWARD。 熱火將在下週四碰上湖人,WADE也關注到了全國性的“湖人熱”。 “你知道的,他們是美國籃球隊,”WADE說,“很多年他們都代表著NBA的水準。波士頓 和湖人。但是湖人隊在洛杉磯的大市場,所以從這個角度出發,你就能理解了。” 但是,WADE也贊同LBJ的觀點,相比現在的湖人,當時的熱火更多得被放在了顯微鏡下。 “因為2010年休賽期簽約發生的所有事情,賽季開始的時候,外界有很多關於我們的負面 消息,”WADE談到了球隊9勝8負的開局,“湖人在賽季開始的時候並沒有經歷這些,他們 帶來這些球員的時候並沒有遭遇負面消息。所以我們開局就是糟糕的,並持續了一段時間 ,我們最終變好。 那麼湖人隊呢? “任何一支球隊,只有自己深入到問題的中心,不被外界的觀點和聲音所分神,才能有更 好的機會修復存在的問題,”熱火主教練濕婆這樣說。 ------------- 心得1:LBJ最近放話力好像變高了... 2:沒想到LBJ對 Lillard評價這麼高 把他跟CP3 KD擺在一起.. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.44.81.22 ※ 編輯: yeo12 來自: 114.44.81.22 (01/11 13:16)
twsoriano :其實今年LBJ放話少 但是字字有糗力 01/11 13:18
Nacia :事實就是 湖人開巨頭連線就沒人批評 01/11 13:18
twsoriano :灰雄高掛西區第一的時候,LBJ: 灰雄超強 GAY是第三得 01/11 13:18
twsoriano :分點 01/11 13:18
Nacia :熱火就會 01/11 13:18
kd1523 :就像KOBE說OK連線是絕響一樣,這都只是自我感覺特別 01/11 13:18
twsoriano :前日對走路人,LBJ: 別隊來放話 我們來贏球 01/11 13:19
marcoyao :我覺得LBJ的意思根本是他們陣容本來就沒我們好www 01/11 13:19
treerivers :有人跟我一樣覺得湖人這陣容比熱火還犯規嗎? 01/11 13:20
treerivers :Howard+Gasol+Kobe+Nash 根本是夢幻中的夢幻陣容了 01/11 13:21
black205 :XDD 因為湖人有很多代替自盡的人 騎士沒有 01/11 13:22
DASHOCK :贊成 01/11 13:22
treerivers :Bosh+LBJ+Wade--->三弟禁區統治力遠不如Howard+Gasol 01/11 13:22
sVs :如果是06年這陣容無敵 現在都老了 01/11 13:22
bredka :是你自己當初說要拿七冠外加開記者會害的吧 怪誰? 01/11 13:22
treerivers :Kobe比Wade還會得分 LBJ>阿平 但禁區陣容大輸湖人 01/11 13:23
treerivers :所以整體來說湖人這陣容比熱火三巨頭還要犯規 01/11 13:24
ahloving :也不看看自己組隊的時候才幾歲 被酸剛好而已 01/11 13:24
ThreeNG :年齡和傷病因素要算進去啊 01/11 13:24
sVs :我覺得你沒看年紀 三王正值顛峰 f4三個老人一個背傷 01/11 13:25
ThreeNG :對湖人的批評從來沒有少過啦 豪門球隊不怕沒人酸 01/11 13:25
ahloving :也不看看自己組隊的時候才幾歲 被酸剛好而已 01/11 13:25
iamchyun :Howard+Gasol+Nash這陣容再加上LBJ叫毫無懸念的外掛 01/11 13:25
sVs :我沒看過後場38 34歲組合能奪冠的 01/11 13:25
s66449 :5>>>>>>>>> 01/11 13:26
iamchyun :有時候3(Howard+Gasol+Nash)>4 但其他3就不一定 01/11 13:26
Powar :因大家的媽媽都很安分 01/11 13:27
treerivers :Howard+Gasol+阿平+LBJ+Nash 至少5座總冠軍跑不掉 01/11 13:27
treerivers :外掛中的外掛 01/11 13:27
cutefennec :Lillard 是對比瑪莉歐吧 01/11 13:28
oicecnir :現在都湖人洗板..寶傑會不會想太多... 01/11 13:28
oicecnir :最好湖人被酸會少於那時的熱火 01/11 13:28
sVs :到底是哪來的自信跟數據說可以五冠? 01/11 13:29
hiroshima : 因為有LBJ 01/11 13:31
yeo12 :五冠????????? NASH要退休了 阿平GASOL都幾歲 01/11 13:31
hiroshima :有LBJ,就會讓你有 無限可能 01/11 13:32
like1259 :剩老母可酸還蠻屌的 有沒有臉阿? 01/11 13:32
treerivers :LBJ=會搶板會助攻會防守會得分的Lao-Da 01/11 13:34
treerivers :太全能了 能酸的只剩髮線了 01/11 13:35
douglasyeh :LBJ那時候被酸是因為太囂張吧...離開母隊弄臭名聲 01/11 13:35
douglasyeh :還說not1 not2 not3........... 01/11 13:35
douglasyeh :5冠咧....以湖人現在今年又老又傷的情況 01/11 13:37
douglasyeh :來LBJ也沒用吧 01/11 13:37
douglasyeh :如果是健康的DH 嘎獸 大鎖時的MWP 年輕的飄髮哥... 01/11 13:38
douglasyeh :的確就是外掛陣容了 01/11 13:39
treerivers :抱歉 我說的是季初沒人受傷但把Kobe換成LBJ 01/11 13:39
douglasyeh :玩2K時候把受傷體能都調掉...的確是夢幻陣容啦XDD 01/11 13:40
treerivers :MWP本季也沒退化那麼誇張 還是大鎖一枚 Nash也不必 01/11 13:40
douglasyeh :MWP防守的確是退化了 已經不到大鎖的程度了... 01/11 13:41
ARODisGod :LBJ有五冠的時候再來說嘴 01/11 13:41
treerivers :像太陽那麼年輕現在也還堪用 雙塔都沒收傷的話 01/11 13:41
treerivers :這陣容真的是無敵陣容 完全把Lao-Da的洞補起來了 01/11 13:41
douglasyeh :湖人的體質還是差在防守...季初根本沒人想到防守會 01/11 13:42
douglasyeh :差成這樣... 01/11 13:42
stocktonty :我還以為他說騎士時期 引申到傑米森帶賽 01/11 13:42
treerivers :如果湖人能留住DH 然後把Kobe特赦 等LBJ變成自由球員 01/11 13:42
treerivers :再把他簽過來 湖人真的是無敵了 01/11 13:43
yeo12 :樓上可以回去打2K13了 01/11 13:43
douglasyeh :湖人根本不用特赦kobe啊 = =2014一堆到期約薪資空間 01/11 13:43
douglasyeh :變超大... 01/11 13:44
F7 :寶傑轉隊那時候是說七個冠軍吧? 01/11 13:44
jameskoko :把Lillard跟CP3擺一起是在害他吧 這樣根本沒球打了 01/11 13:44
treerivers :真的難以想像湖人有一個會搶板會防守會傳球的KB會有 01/11 13:45
treerivers :多可怕 01/11 13:45
tealee :一個是交易一個是自由市場選擇到底哪裡一樣 01/11 13:45
douglasyeh :LBJ真的到湖人根本無用做這些事吧...又搶版又傳球.. 01/11 13:48
douglasyeh :那禁區雙塔跟NASH要幹什麼用?? 01/11 13:48
treerivers :LBJ可怕地方就是他可攻可守啊 就算他不需要搶板但還 01/11 13:50
treerivers :是需要他的傳球 不然他一球在手不就KB一樣 01/11 13:50
douglasyeh :我知道他可攻可守 我的意思是他到湖人不必做這些事 01/11 13:51
douglasyeh :他去跟進區雙塔搶籃板 跟nash搶助攻做什麼?? 01/11 13:51
douglasyeh :說不定他到湖人會變成一個更會得分的kobe也不一定 01/11 13:52
treerivers :他到湖人一定會讓對手更難守 切進去傳給雙塔和外線 01/11 13:54
ckshchen :你們兩年前又沒有kobe 01/11 13:54
treerivers :埋伏的Nash和阿平投三分 01/11 13:54
like1259 :喇嘛現在還待在湖人的話也許就好很多 01/11 13:55
douglasyeh :不管怎麼說~個人認為LBJ到湖人數據是一定會下降的 01/11 13:55
douglasyeh :但是得分或許有機會創新高~ 01/11 13:55
shevchenlun :幹 每次廣告就3000 比賽就400...悶... 01/11 13:55
douglasyeh :反正14年說不定有機會就可以看的到了XDD 01/11 13:56
shevchenlun :推錯篇 = = 01/11 13:56
xufunny :不過當年三王合體的時候 也有人說lbj的數據會掉 01/11 13:56
treerivers :不過他不必把精力過度放在籃板和防守上 得分數據的確 01/11 13:56
treerivers :會更可怕 助攻可能會持平甚至增加(隊友更強了) 01/11 13:57
takashin :三王合體罵翻天 結果LBJ要做的事情沒比較少 01/11 13:57
douglasyeh :那他要先想辦法把助攻都從岳父大人手上搶過來了XD 01/11 13:57
treerivers :LBJ職涯都沒有可以跟超級中鋒搭配機會 真的有點惋惜 01/11 13:59
treerivers :當初跟歐尼爾搭配都已經是歐肥職涯低潮末期了 01/11 13:59
treerivers :如果他跟鼎盛時期的歐肥和現在的魔獸配不曉得威力會 01/11 14:00
treerivers :到什麼程度? 01/11 14:00
douglasyeh :好啦我知道你只是想酸老大XD 14年你可以期待看看 01/11 14:02
treerivers :老大真的很幸運 都能在職涯跟當代最強大的超級中鋒 01/11 14:03
treerivers :搭檔 不用愁撿子彈和禁區被人打點 01/11 14:03
Xhocer :換個角度想LBJ也很幸運,一進聯盟就能當老大 01/11 14:05
treerivers :沒辦法 身體素質和能力太出色 想不讓他當老大都難 01/11 14:06
Xhocer :不用當人小弟,球團能以他為中心打造陣容 01/11 14:06
Xhocer :各有各幸運的部分 01/11 14:07
takashin :他幸運在他有這種先天條件 這種條件不當老大都不行 01/11 14:08
Xhocer :真的是先天條件太好,難怪來熱火後偉德只好...XD 01/11 14:10
airjaguar :howard 有名人唐???!!!! 01/11 14:32
gigatt914 :某tree一直如果如果Zzz 都給你想就好啦 01/11 14:44
hater4life :湖人有這種陣容超爽的 但現在西區第11也太扯 01/11 14:58
charlie1kimo:報導寫LBJ提 Lillard 因為這在波特蘭訪問的XD 做面子 01/11 15:23
leo255112 :巨頭齊聚近年來磨合最好的還是GAP 01/11 15:50
leo255112 :因為沒有人貪功刷數據,大家都做好自己的事 01/11 15:50
tlw0709 :熱火當初為什麼被笑? 因為三個都是如日中天的明星 01/11 15:59
tlw0709 :而且一合體之後的高調表現這才是讓人看不順眼的點 01/11 16:00
tlw0709 :而LAL其實跟BOS或是SAS的沒差多少 笑歸笑 01/11 16:02
tlw0709 :不會有人認為LAL今年搞得很囂張 而且還有KB在中槍 01/11 16:02
tlw0709 :至於如果CP3+KD+DH 然後也搞個什麼not2~3~4 01/11 16:05
tlw0709 :那我相信當年沒奪冠 被更多人看好戲也是剛好而已 01/11 16:05
larson :兩年前LCD會被放在顯微鏡下,還不是自己太高調的結果~ 01/11 16:12
ponkd :Howard是交易,Nash還給了太陽樂透簽,LBJ.. ?? 01/11 19:25
tomoti :救援失敗... 01/11 20:09
jajaye :年齡問題吧 兩隊巨頭年齡差很多 01/12 08:01