[外絮] Nash & Bryant, contrasts in leadership

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Steve Nash and Kobe Bryant, contrasts in leadership
飄髮哥和布萊恩，南轅北轍的領導風格

Posted on AUG 17, 12:24PM ET
By Henry Abbott | ESPN.com | TrueHoop Blog


Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash together are really something, as a backcourt. The 
point guard playing alongside the shooting guard. That promises to be a huge 
national basketball story all season.
最近遭送作堆的科比．布萊恩和史帝夫．納許，真是不得了的後場組合。一個超級會得分
，再加上一個超級會控球，乖乖，保証讓全國籃球迷整季有得聊。


But vastly more fascinating to me, and something I predict I'll write about 
again and again, is how differently these new teammates work as leaders. 
但真正讓我覺得有意思，而且我有預感以後我會常寫到的，是這兩位的領導風格，實在是
南轅北轍，差、很、大！


It's an interesting time for the NBA in this regard. Team USA and the NBA's two 
dominant teams of last season -- the Miami Heat and the Oklahoma City Thunder -
- are unabashed about blatantly loving each other. But for the occasional 
Mario Chalmers incident, the tone of how they talk about each other is not 
about berating each other. It's about engulfing each other in support, loyalty 
and fist bumps. 
講到領導風格，現在的ＮＢＡ很有意思。就這麼剛好，最強的隊伍，如美國國家代表隊，
聯盟上季爭冠的熱火、雷霆，都是走愛的教育的路線，隊友是大剌剌地相親相愛。偶爾出
個 Mario Chalmers 事件，當事人談到彼此，也不是互相幹譙，而是滿口的支持啦，忠誠
啦，我挺你啦之類的熱血言詞。



That fact is dissatisfying to anyone who sees Michael Jordan's scowl as the
multimate sign of leadership. But it's undeniably working in basketball, as
predicted by a thousand modern books on leadership. In a business where you 
win by being up, why be down? 
有些人看過當年喬丹「你犯錯就別怪我臭臉」的領導風範，會覺得這種相親相愛的調調太
軟蛋。然而，我們不可否認，就像現在一大堆談領導的書裏教的，相親相愛在籃球界還真
的有用。在專業領域裏，如果打氣的效率比較高，何苦要打槍呢？



And, even though he's a card-carrying member of Team USA's love-bomb squad, 
there is no more overt icon of the old-school Jordan "berate 'em into 
professionalism" approach than Bryant.
而布萊恩，雖然身為愛意橫陳、其樂融融的夢幻隊一員，領導方式卻跟喬丹再像也
沒有，走的是老式的，「不譙不成材」的鐵腕風格。


Jordan's best-known teammate, Scottie Pippen, even refers to Jordan's scowling 
at teammates as "doing the Kobe" in Jack McCallum's book, "Dream Team." 
在 Jack McCallum 的《夢幻隊》裏，喬丹知名的戰友皮朋，甚至把喬丹給隊友臉色看
的習慣，稱做「又擺出科比那副德性了」。



And there is no more blatant a practitioner of the new-school "love 'em up" 
theory than Nash, who -- in one of the greatest sports videos in Internet 
history -- was documented by Jess the Suns intern dispensing 239 high-fives 
in a single game. 
另一方面，納許的路線卻恰恰相反，走的是比較現代的，「愛的鼓勵」的模式。沒有人
比納許更愛給隊友鼓勵了，太陽隊的實習生 Jess 還做過一個影片（我覺得是有網路以
來最棒的運動影片之一，請看http://0rz.tw/BuCqE），裏面記錄了納許一場比賽要送出
幾個 high-fives，足足 239 個！

On some level it strikes me that Nash and Bryant are destined to undermine each 
other. They are antithetical. If Pau Gasol misses a big shot, Nash would run 
over to say something like hey, you're a great shooter, keep shooting. Bryant, 
on the other hand, has long been prone to "you believe these crappy players I 
have to play with" looks of disgust. You're not a good shooter, that look, from 
the league's player most likely to ignore open teammates, seems to say: Pass it 
to me next time. 
某種程度上，我突然覺得，納許和布萊恩會不會是正正得負呢？因為他們風格根本走在
光譜的兩端。如果嗄獸沒投進球，納許會跑去鼓勵他，跟他說些「你是個好射手，繼續
投，不能怕！」之類的話。布萊恩呢，正相反，可能又大擺臉色，一副「你看看我的隊
友都是些什麼爛咖」的鄙夷相。一個號稱科不傳的人作出那種表情，就好比在說：不會
投不要硬投，下次把球傳給我就對了。



One approach or the other may command an inspired performance from Gasol, I 
suppose. But together ... isn't that just a confusing mess? 
我在想，只用一種方式，隨便哪一種，可能都有激勵嗄獸的效果。但是兩種方式一塊
出現……不會把事情搞得更混亂嗎？



Not so, says former Suns front office guy Amin Elhassan, who knows Nash well 
and carries a healthy fear of Bryant. He told me on TrueHoop TV recently that 
he sees the pairing as "the perfect marriage of good cop, bad cop. Kobe's the 
guy who gets on guys -- which some people would criticize and say Steve didn't
do enough of in his career. And on the other hand you have Steve to kind of
build guys up and build their confidence up, which obviously has been a 
criticism of Kobe. ... I think it's a perfect, perfect marriage." 
前太陽隊制服組員 Amin Elhassan 覺得不會這樣。他跟納許很熟，對布萊恩也懷有適當
的敬畏。前些時侯他在 TrueHoop TV 受訪時告訴我（影片：http://0rz.tw/podmv），
他覺得科仙和飄髮哥是「完美的黑臉／白臉型組合。科比負責對人發飆，這是人們批評
納許的地方，說他這方面太軟。而另一方面，納許負責鼓舞隊上士氣，增進大家的信心，
這顯然是科比為人批評的短處…我覺得他們這樣根本是天作之合。」



I started to wonder if there were examples of teams that really had paired 
both kinds of leaders side-by-side. How did that turn out? 
我開始想，歷史上有沒有這種愛的鼓勵／悢鐵不成鋼，兩種極端領導風格並存的隊伍，
這隊伍後來又會是怎樣的局面？



A clue comes from a footnote of Bill Simmons' "The Book of Basketball." In the 
tiny type at the bottom of page 478, there's a Phil Jackson quote, borrowed 
from a must-read 1999 S.L. Price Scottie Pippen profile in Sports Illustrated: 
Bill Simons 的《The Book of Basketball》裏有個線索，在第 478 頁的最底子有行小
字，是 Phil Jackson 講的，摘於 1999 年運動畫刊裏 S.L. Price 所寫，精采必讀的
一篇關於皮朋的報導（報導全文連結 http://0rz.tw/eNiCf）:



"On the Bulls," says Jackson, "[Scottie Pippen] was probably the player most 
liked by the others. He mingled. He could bring out the best in the players and
communicate the best. Leadership, real leadership, is one of his strengths. 
Everybody would say Michael is a great leader. He leads by example, by rebuke, 
by harsh words. Scottie's leadership was equally dominant, but it's a 
leadership of patting the back, support." 
Jackson 是這麼說的：「在公牛，皮朋可能是人緣最好的球員。他擅於和人相處。他激
發出隊友最棒的表現，他溝通協調很有一套。領導能力，真正的溝通協調，是他的優勢。
Michael 是偉大的領袖，他的風格是帶頭示範，做不好就嚴厲指責，所謂的洪水猛獸法。
皮朋帶人方式是輕拍你的背，給你打油打氣。兩種方法大不相同，但一樣高效。」


Wow. Take a note, Laker fans. Elhassan is looking like a genius: "Good cop, 
bad cop" is how most people's pick as the best team ever was led. 
Ｗｏｗ。湖人迷趕快筆記，Elhassan 真的太妙了：「一個扮黑臉，一個扮白臉」
原來這就是公牛隊，這個大多數人心中聯盟最棒的球隊，成功的撇步。



And to hear Pippen tell it in Jack McCallum's book "Dream Team" the combination 
was deadly: 
而且，根據皮朋本人在 Jack McCallum 的《夢幻隊》書裏的說法，這種黑臉白臉的組合
更是妙用無窮：


"To me, our team was always about chemistry," says Pippen, pushing around some 
scrambled eggs, "and we never could develop chemistry because of Michael. He 
didn't believe in his teammates. It was hard for us. We got accused of standing 
and looking because he would always ... do the Kobe." (He means showing visible 
anger to his teammates, as the Lakers' Kobe Bryant often does.) 
「對我來說，公牛隊靠的就是化學效應。」皮朋邊攪著炒蛋邊說：「靠喬丹是不可能有
什麼化學效應的。他根本不信任隊友。有段時間我們很難熬，他指責我們光站著看，因
為他總是…擺出科比那副樣子來。」（因為科比常常把對隊友的不滿顯露在神色上，所
以皮朋這樣形容喬丹。）



"When Phil [Jackson] came, it made all the difference to Michael. Phil 
convinced him to believe in his teammates, and I think I was the first one 
Michael really trusted. We didn't have to worry about Michael coming down and 
pulling up one-on-five. We could just play."
「然後 Phil 來了，讓 Michael 徹頭徹尾改變，讓他願意相信隊友。我想他是 Michael
第一個全心全意信任的人。我們也不用再擔心他上演一個打五個的戲碼，大家可以好好
打球。」



In the Price article linked above, former Bull Joe Kleine says: "Michael was 
the father figure saying, 'You're grounded.' Pip was like Mom coming in to tell 
you everything's going to be all right.
在上面所貼的 Price 報導裏，前公牛球員 Joe Kleine 說：「Michael 就像嚴父，說些
：『你給我禁足！』之類的話。Pip 則像老媽，會進來你房間安慰你，告訴你『乖啊，沒
事沒事』。」



Now that's starting to make some sense. "Mom" and "Dad" may have opposing 
styles, one with a soft touch and the other with a firm hand. But underneath 
it all they're both sending the same message: Play your brains out. 
這個理論真是越想越有道理。「嚴父」和「慈母」這兩種完全相反的風格，一個疾言
厲色，一個軟言軟語，卻到頭來傳達的是一樣的訊息：好好打，用心打，打出智慧籃
球。



Any teammate who receives that message has a chance to help the team do 
something special. That has good implications for the Lakers. 
接收到這樣訊息的隊友，都可能幫球隊表現出精采的一面。這對湖人而言，絕對是
正面能量。

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