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以下有緋彈的亞莉亞小說雷(大概吧) ~防雷頁~ 有在追的應該都知道,貞德原本的武器「魔劍杜蘭朵」 為啥會跟代代研究冰的貞德扯上關係呢? 會有這個疑問,主要是因為昨天我拿出魔砲A's來複習 然後就看到格雷姆提督把「冰封之杖─羅蘭聖劍」交給了克羅諾(第十話) 雖然克羅諾的CV是高橋美佳子,跟星伽白雪是同一人,不過這不是重點 重點是羅蘭聖劍=杜蘭朵 嘛...其實是看到那個結冰方式有點眼熟,我才熊熊注意到兩把武器都讀作デュランダル 不然誰會注意到大哥在做啥啊(逃 所以問題至此,就變成了:為啥杜蘭朵會跟冰有關係呢? 首先,讓我們看看杜蘭朵的來源 其原型是來自於法國的〈羅蘭詩歌〉,查理皇帝賞賜給主角羅蘭的劍 日文:デュランダル 英文:Durendal 或 Durandal Fate的金閃閃有拿這把出來使用過(Fate線 第14天),看起來也是冰屬性 然而,〈羅蘭詩歌〉裡對於杜蘭朵的描述主要有兩段 "Ah! Durendal, white art thou, clear of stain! Beneath the sun reflecting back his rays! In Moriane was Charles, in the vale, When from heaven God by His angel bade Him give thee to a count and capitain; Girt thee on me that noble King and great. I won for him with thee Anjou, Bretaigne, And won for him with thee Peitou, the Maine, And Normandy the free for him I gained, Also with thee Provence and Equitaigne, And Lumbardie and all the whole Romaigne, I won Baivere, all Flanders in the plain, Also Burguigne and all the whole Puillane, Costentinnople, that homage to him pays; In Saisonie all is as he ordains; With thee I won him Scotland, Ireland, Wales, England also, where he his chamber makes; Won I with thee so many countries strange That Charles holds, whose beard is white with age! For this sword's sake sorrow upon me weighs, Rather I'ld die, than it mid pagans stay. Lord God Father, never let France be shamed!" "Ah! Durendal, most holy, fair indeed! Relics enough thy golden hilt conceals: Saint Peter's Tooth, the Blood of Saint Basile, Some of the Hairs of my Lord, Saint Denise, Some of the Robe, was worn by Saint Mary. It is not right that pagans should thee seize, For Christian men your use shall ever be. Nor any man's that worketh cowardice! Many broad lands with you have I retrieved Which Charles holds, who hath the great white beard; Wherefore that King so proud and rich is he." 這邊頂多只能看出杜蘭朵具有聖屬性(畢竟原本也是天使交給查理皇帝的) 那究竟冰屬性從何而來?羅蘭帶著它進行殺伐與征服,反而還使它染上了一點火的意象啊 所以個人推論應該是從其聖潔的光輝,導引出冰的象徵吧 不過真相如何,我沒辦法確定 只能說赤松中學大概只是從ACG作品中 隨便挑了一把跟法國、冰有關的武器套給貞德用而已吧 以上 我一定是準備期末考準備到瘋了= = -- 要是我媽知道我在這裡PO廢文 我一定會比她難過.... 《貓大法師系學會議事錄》 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.240.183.133
sa033766:因為貞德怕火 (捏鼻 06/11 22:44
allfate:我當然知道貞德怕火,這裡只是想知道為啥杜蘭朵是冰屬而已 06/11 22:45
littlesafe:貞德:好熱!好想吃冰的啊! 杜蘭朵:yes sir! 06/11 22:51
allfate:貞德的冰,是來自於自身的超能力 06/11 22:52
PsycoZero:不是查爾斯...歷史課本寫的是查理曼大帝 06/11 22:57
PsycoZero:更正確來說是查理大帝(曼就已經是法蘭克語的大帝) 06/11 22:58
allfate:我以為シャルル可以翻成查爾斯= = 06/11 23:01
PsycoZero:一般都是查理,我沒看過寫查爾斯的(拼法差多了) 06/11 23:04
※ 編輯: allfate 來自: 111.240.183.133 (06/11 23:06)
PsycoZero:另一方面,杜蘭達爾跟冰完全沒有關係 06/11 23:05
PsycoZero:如果要說杜蘭達爾說不定跟火比較有關 06/11 23:05
allfate:所以這就是我的疑問,因為ACG作品裡面都給他冰屬性 06/11 23:07
allfate:所以我覺得很奇怪啊 06/11 23:07
PsycoZero:日文很妙,查理曼可以翻譯成夏魯魯跟卡魯兩種音... 06/11 23:07
allfate:夏魯魯應該是從法文音譯的? 06/11 23:09
PsycoZero:純粹是作者爽,剩下都是腦補... 06/11 23:09
PsycoZero:原始的日耳曼語比較接近卡魯...夏的音是法文沒錯 06/11 23:11