[閒聊] 紐時：霍格華茲無法拋開對JK的爭論

[Lb1916 (冷靜的魚)]

就剛剛用英文
Hogwarts legacy
去google
就有發現一些西方媒體
例如CNN、紐約時報等
都有對於霍格華茲的傳承的報導
其中紐約時報的標題
讓我感到有點興趣

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/09/arts/hogwarts-legacy-jk-rowling.html

Hogwarts Legacy Can’t Cast Aside Debate Over J.K. Rowling

霍格華茲的傳承無法拋開對J.K.羅琳的爭論

英文內文比較長沒有仔細看
不確定是不是中性報導
只是看到標題感覺滿有意思的
所以就分享一下
大家有興趣可以看看、討論

補充：
應推文要求轉貼內文
不確定有無遺漏字或亂碼：

The video game is the latest battleground over the “Harry Potter” author’s co
mments on transgender issues, with fans and gamers divided over whether they sho
uld play it at all.

The conversation about the video game Hogwarts Legacy has been dominated by soci
al issues rather than spell casting or Hippogriff taming.Credit...Warner Bros. G
ames

The developer behind a highly anticipated video game set in the “Harry Potter”
 universe, but a century before the familiar story, was always going to have to
confront the expectations of a zealous fandom.

There was the challenge of creating an engaging experience beyond the well-known
 tale of the Boy Who Lived, and the risk of disappointing fans by omitting belov
ed aspects of the wizarding world. (Sorry, no quidditch.)

But when the developer, Avalanche Software, began work several years ago on an i
mmersive role-playing game set in Hogwarts, it may not have anticipated that per
haps the biggest challenge of all would stem from the series’s celebrated autho
r.

The conversation among fans and gamers as Hogwarts Legacy approaches its offici
al release date on Friday has been dominated not by talk about spell casting or
Hippogriff taming, but by J.K. Rowling’s remarks on transgender issues.

Potter fans have been grappling with those comments for years, especially afte
r Rowling published an extensive essay in 2020 in which she said a movement of
 transgender activists was “seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biolo
gical class and offering cover to predators.”

“I want trans women to be safe,” she wrote. “At the same time, I do not want
to make natal girls and women less safe.”

Fans who considered Rowling’s views odious and anti-trans — a sentiment she de
nies — clashed with those who sympathized with them, while others argued that t
he artist could be separated from her art. Some pledged to cease spending money
on the franchise, which includes a theatrical production and the “Fantastic Bea
sts” movies.

Hogwarts Legacy brought another dedicated community into the fold: gamers, a gro
up not associated with soft-spokenness online.

In recent weeks, they have used social media to confront one another over issues
 of transgender rights. Some have pledged to boycott the game, while others have
 embraced it or defended their right to play it without claiming specific gender
 politics.

“The controversy is very loud,” said Alex Casilio, a YouTube creator who has f
ollowed Hogwarts Legacy throughout its yearslong development, though he question
ed whether the debate would have a measurable impact on sales. “It’s a game th
at got very popular very fast, and most people aren’t into the controversy.”

J.K.Rowling’s Controversial Comments

The “Harry Potter” author’s statements on transgender issues have fueled hea
ted discussions among fans of the book series and beyond.

A Conflicted Fandom: Rowling’s views forced some “Harry Potter” fans to figu
re out how to distance themselves from the author who created the beloved wiza
rding world.

Quidditch No More: The real-life version of the sport, which prominently featur
es in the series, changed its name to “Quadball.” Rowling’s views on transge
nder issues played a role.

Daniel Radcliffe’s Criticism: The lead actor in the “Harry Potter” films i
s one of several cast members who voiced their support for transgender rights in
 response to Rowling’s comments.

Days before its official release, Hogwarts Legacy became the single-player game
with the highest number of concurrent viewers on the streaming site Twitch, acc
ording to the analytics site Streams Charts, beating titles like Cyberpunk 2077
and Elden Ring.

Still, the disagreements over whether to engage with the newest entry in the wiz
arding world have sowed chaos on internet forums. On the game’s Reddit forum, t
he moderators reinstated restrictions on discussing Rowling, writing that allow
ing such conversation “quickly spirals into bigoted language towards LGBTQ+ ind
ividuals.” On an official Discord forum, a moderator pleaded with users to “pa
use on the JK topic.”

Like other role-playing games, Hogwarts Legacy allows players to shape their ava
tars’ appearance, intertwining issues of identity with the gameplay. And some p
layers have drawn the conclusion that a new, nonplayable character is transgend
er, based on a line of dialogue in which the character — Sirona Ryan, who runs
 the Three Broomsticks pub — said it had taken her classmates a moment to “re
alize I was actually a witch, not a wizard.”

Set in the 1890s — a century before Harry’s story — the game allows players t
o become students at Hogwarts, where they can wear their house robes, navigate t
hrough the castle and practice spells.Credit...Warner Bros. Games

Avalanche — which is owned by Warner Bros., the studio behind the eight “Harry
 Potter” movies and the “Fantastic Beasts” series — has walked a fine line,
establishing distance between Rowling and the game while acknowledging her centr
ality to the franchise.

Warner Bros. declined several times to set up an interview with the game’s deve
lopers. When asked direct questions about the creative process and Rowling’s co
ntributions, it pointed to marketing materials.

“J.K. Rowling is not involved in the creation of the game, but as creator of th
e wizarding world and one of the world’s greatest storytellers, her extraordina
ry body of writing is the foundation of all projects in the wizarding world,” e
xplains a list of frequently asked questions. “This is not a new story from J.
K. Rowling, however we have collaborated closely with her team on all aspects of
 the game to ensure it remains in line with the magical experiences fans expect.
”

It is unclear how much Rowling will financially benefit from the game; a spokesm
an for Rowling declined to comment on its reception. In December, after Jessie E
arl, a transgender gaming commentator, tweeted that it was “harmful” to suppor
t Hogwarts Legacy, Rowling used the term “purethink” to criticize the argume
nt.

In an interview with IGN, an entertainment website, Alan Tew, the game’s direct
or, addressed questions about Rowling by saying, “When we bumped into those cha
llenges, we went back and refocused on the stuff that we really care about.”

In a separate article about Sirona Ryan, the character players have concluded is
 transgender, a representative for the developer told IGN, “The team felt that
 it was very important to create a game that is representative of the rich and d
iverse world of Harry Potter as well as the groups of people who play games, whi
ch includes the LGBTQIA+ community.”

Set in the 1890s, the game allows players to become students at Hogwarts, where
they can wear their house robes, navigate through the castle and practice spells
.

Many details are pulled from Rowling’s texts (spells like Crucio, the torture c
urse, and Avada Kedavra, the killing curse, will be familiar), but some aspects
of the lore are newly invented: Daedalian Keys, the game explains, have been con
jured to protect locked cabinets at Hogwarts.

Several gaming publications and streamers have also been cautious discussing the
 game, making it clear that they have qualms about Rowling’s views. Several par
agraphs into IGN’s positive review, which calls the spell-casting combat “stu
pefyingly good,” sits a disclaimer box that acknowledges the “elephant in the
room.”

“As critics, our job is to answer the question of whether or not we find Hogwar
ts Legacy to be fun to play and why,” the disclaimer says. “Whether it’s ethi
cal to play is a separate but still very important question.”

NME, a British pop culture website, gave Hogwarts Legacy three out of five stars
 and noted that its review was “not an endorsement of Rowling’s opinions or
comments,” while linking to L.G.B.T.Q. charities.

And a duo called Girlfriend Reviews, who were criticized for streaming the game
on Twitch, responded by emphasizing that they had not paid for it and were rais
ing money for the Trevor Project, a suicide prevention group for L.G.B.T.Q. youn
g people.

Others in the gaming community have drawn a harder line.

“If you purchase this game — if you praise its qualities and encourage others
to ‘support the developers’ or ‘treat yourself to a guilty pleasure’ — you
are making a choice that will harm the transgender community,” Percy Ranson wr
ote for GamesHub, an Australian gaming news site, noting that they are transgend
er.

Rowling has continued to opine on transgender issues since her 2020 essay. Last
month, she posted a tweet likening a meme in which a character holding a gun t
hreatens a TERF, or trans-exclusionary radical feminist, to an illustration of a
 20th-century suffragist being tortured. She also rallied in opposition to Sc
ottish legislation intending to make it easier for people to legally change the
ir gender.

The author had no creative input in Hogwarts Legacy, according to Troy Leavitt,
who said on Casilio’s channel last year that he was a lead designer and senio
r producer on the game for three years before leaving Avalanche in 2021. The stu
dio had the latitude, he said, to pick and choose the aspects fans were most int
erested in.

“This isn’t a game about pushing agendas or anything,” said Leavitt, who decl
ined an interview request. “This is a game about delivering to the fans that wi
zarding world experience that you always wanted to have when you were reading th
e books or watching the films. That’s it.”

Perhaps the game’s developers wish they had invented a charm to tame the intern
et.

“Every big ‘Harry Potter’ thing turns into an L.G.B.T.Q. conversation,” said
 Asher Chelder, who works on social media for MuggleNet, a Harry Potter fan site
, and is transgender.

But this backlash has seemed heightened compared with the response to the releas
e of the third “Fantastic Beasts” movie last year, said Chelder, who is lookin
g forward to playing Hogwarts Legacy.

Despite some calls for a boycott of the franchise, “Beasts” — which credits R
owling as a screenplay writer — grossed more than $400 million globally. “Curs
ed Child,” the play Rowling is credited on, is running in six countries.



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→ jeffbear79: 紐約時報不就是當初刊登說盼望沒有JK的哈利波特？
推 hermis: 比起開學連殺六人，竟然比較在意作者的爭論？
推 Pegasus99: 錯 是SJW無法拋開對JK的爭論 所以挑軟柿子來啃
推 awenracious: 不需要拋開阿 有話題有流量 賺 原本我連有這個遊戲
→ awenracious: 都不知道 現在準備要來玩了
推 qaz223gy: 紐約時報的立場很明顯吧？ 當初那一篇也是從他們這裡出
→ qaz223gy: 來的
推 Xpwa563704ju: 紐時當初還有編輯撰文說哈利波特沒有作者勒
→ wvookevp: 整起事件看下來很像是SJW想逼遊戲公司出來切割JK羅琳
推 MoonSkyFish: 比較好奇當初手遊怎麼就沒鬧那麼大
推 DarkHolbach: 要拋開JK就自己做遊戲啊，看看能賣多少
→ wvookevp: 這點挺噁心的 不就是叫別人跟著一起霸凌嗎
推 Pep5iC05893: 英國學校裡一堆有色人種被不射咒攻擊這才算問題吧
→ DarkHolbach: 遊戲公司哪可能切割羅琳，這款賺爛了
→ MoonSkyFish: 遊戲公司早就切割了，但是該給JK的錢不可能不給
推 undeadmask: 要怎麼切 授權金一直往羅琳存摺裡灌進去欸
推 Irenicus: 手遊沒熱度阿 這群垃圾就只會寄生當然挑肥的看起來好欺
→ Irenicus: 負的
推 steven869200: 標題這麼明顯
→ DarkHolbach: 切割羅琳萬一她不爽收回版權，遊戲製作人還要去土下
→ DarkHolbach: 座求她
→ ThreekRoger: JK忙著數錢
→ undeadmask: 你要粉絲忍住不買這款遊戲根本做不到
推 laipenguin: 老實說我看不懂為什麼LGBT等等等會跟這遊戲拉上關係
推 rochiou28: 真的無法拋開，越來越多人有興趣了
推 Jin63916: 魔法學院的遊戲不難做，但沒哈利波特元素誰要玩
→ laipenguin: 這遊戲我玩起來就是在霍格華茲這個世界探索的樂趣
→ wvookevp: SJW把JK羅琳標誌成要打倒的敵人象徵啊
推 thbw666: 錢都被JK賺走 喔氣氣氣氣
推 RedBottleona: https://bit.ly/3HSlVnR
→ RedBottleona: 當初紐時的文章
→ laipenguin: 可是怎麼會變成這種SJW大戰== 看不懂
→ wvookevp: 光講男權太空泛而且容易招來大反彈 找一個知名作家戰
推 honey4617912: 紐時還啥的總編不是一個黑人肥婆說JK沒資格當HP的
→ honey4617912: 作者嗎
→ wvookevp: 怎麼看都比較划算
推 MoonSkyFish: 原本我認為是因為魔法覺醒背後是網易才不衝它
噓 hank81177: 紐時：想像沒有作者的哈利波特
推 hiphopboy7: 直到目前為止 JK的戶頭仍然叮$叮$叮進帳現金
→ RedBottleona: 不要這樣說那位黑人女性，她是被栽贓的
推 jeffbear79: 但反過來想其實搞不好這是哈利波特這IP的全新財富密碼
→ jeffbear79: 抓著羅琳牌狂打提高銷量，羅琳跟開發商爽爽領錢
→ jeffbear79: 玩家也開心。就炎上的那批人氣氣氣卻得不到好處而已
推 h75311418: 遊戲公司怎麼切，還需要羅琳授權切什麼，頂多口頭講講
→ h75311418: 騙人，而且切了也會被抵制XD
推 undeadmask: 每天都被戶頭進帳的聲音吵醒
推 tmwolf: 你終究是要辱LGBTQ的
推 MutsuKai: 版權在人家手上是要怎麼切割jk，錢還是要給啊
推 MarchelKaton: 當初那個說「想像沒有作者的哈利波特」是另外一個記
→ MarchelKaton: 者寫的，不是那個黑人
→ wvookevp: SJW期待的是拿出態度吧 雖然要你授權但我還是反對你
→ wvookevp: 這邏輯很白爛 但我相信他們就是要這個
→ RedBottleona: 用鈔票擦眼淚，因為不知道錢怎麼花，嗚嗚嗚嗚，捐
→ RedBottleona: 給弱勢團體還是好多錢，只好不停的匿名做公益
→ MarchelKaton: 我當初查證的文章上面有貼了
→ rockman73: 賣到手軟 根本懶得理你
推 vivianqq30: JK就只是名氣夠大才容易被他們攻擊
推 oaoa0123: 看完了 就只是複述一遍反對者的聲音而已 沒啥新東西
推 iam0718: 沒哈利波特的世界觀 肯定吸的人變少
推 DarkHolbach: 就是鴕鳥心態而已，切割作者就假裝跟羅琳無關
→ shane24156: 你敢切沒付授權金等著被律師團每天吉
→ oaoa0123: 不過拿來開一篇文戰SJW的材料倒是挺不錯
推 AndyJheng: 不就跟幹JK魁地奇的概念跟名字去辦比賽 紅了之後JK出
→ AndyJheng: 事就默默改叫四球一樣
→ DarkHolbach: 但實際上每賣出一份遊戲，羅琳就多了好幾張拿來擦眼
→ DarkHolbach: 淚的鈔票
→ RedBottleona: 前‧「真人魁地奇」應該也沒人要玩了吧，本來就是
→ RedBottleona: 為了那個運動名稱玩的，一樣沒有飛天掃帚誰要理你
噓 leo125160909: 好歹附上內文吧
推 abcde79961a: JK：喔是喔真的假的55555(數錢)
推 lyt5566: #哈利波特沒有作者
推 ohmylove347: 手遊不是網易那邊的嗎？SJW不敢跟中國叫板很久了
推 windr: 知名IP的力量可大了，有沒有那個授權世界觀可是天差地遠
→ AndyJheng: 拿人家的創意跟名字去行銷 出事了又說跟JK無關要切割
→ windr: 要不然SJW幹嘛這幾年專找大IP寄生
→ RedBottleona: 那個手遊有歐美伺服器嗎？
→ DarkHolbach: 沒有哈利波特世界觀，這遊戲能賣100萬套就偷笑了
→ RedBottleona: 當時只有看到朋友在玩沒有很關注這件事
→ DarkHolbach: 新ip能賣100萬套都不簡單了
→ windr: 就是星戰、魔戒，就是吃定了IP夠大，觀眾還是會邊罵邊看
推 Orianna: 歐美社會很病態 聖經裡就有明顯分清男女 紐時要抵制聖經
→ Orianna: 嗎
推 heybro: 我是JK被這樣批評的話，一定難過的用鈔票擦眼淚
→ Orianna: 今天問題不是jk 是整個cancel culture
→ iam0718: 如果真要說SJW有創作成名作品的話 10/10算吧
→ rogerliu123: 啊丟個標題內文都沒看就要討論
→ DarkHolbach: 這文章要看還要訂閱的，但我沒興趣訂
→ kobe30418: 沒翻譯誰看得懂
推 heybro: 10/10基本上也算寄生ip啊
推 egg781: JK羅琳還要體諒遊戲公司的臉皮,人很好了
→ DarkHolbach: 我記得當初羅琳那個關於跨性的言論出來之後，她還有
→ DarkHolbach: 寫一篇文章解釋她不是仇跨，只是有……顧慮
→ oaoa0123: 這個文章其實不用訂閱的 至少我搜尋同標題可以直接看
→ oaoa0123: 不知道為啥
推 windr: JK這個人不會跟錢過不去啦XDDDDD
→ DarkHolbach: 寫得算是理性了，不是那種仇跨的文
推 as1100: SJW想封殺JK 自己想辦法搞一個這麼賺錢的IP給大家賺阿
→ windr: 她窮過的，絕對不會擋自己財路
→ DarkHolbach: 只是SJW嘛…要是會看人家的解釋就不是SJW了
推 gibbs1286: 其實繼續吵不錯啊，遊戲得利
推 ColdP: 每個帳號每年有一定量的免費文章可看, 超過就要訂閱了
→ kuo95: 啊你沒有仔細看內文要討論什麼
→ kuo95: 不太懂
推 jeffbear79: 說真的我要是JK，知道別人打我這張牌能反向提高銷量
→ jeffbear79: 我也會閉嘴等錢進來
推 egg781: 這遊戲跟哈利波特沒關係的話,完全原創看你能不能這麼熱門
→ egg781: 雖然沒人會嫌錢多,但羅琳真不想的話也不缺他們這一份
噓 kinuhata: who car 遊戲都賺爛了誰還在乎這些破事
→ oaoa0123: 就只是找篇文給大家吵而已R 紐時這篇沒說什麼新東西
→ windr: 不過啦，真的會出來捐款的人，再怎麼樣，我個人是都覺得比
噓 notlolicon: 原po又沒看文章內容 看起來也沒有要跟這裡的人討論的
→ notlolicon: 意思 那發這篇文幹嘛XD
→ windr: 出張嘴的人更值得基本尊重
→ oaoa0123: 就提供吵架題材啊，你看四十幾推不亦樂乎XD
→ solidmiss: JK真爽 早上刷簿子下午再刷 可能就先乘1.3倍
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→ h75311418: 其實狠一點的話羅琳可以都不授權耶，他們還有得哭嗎X
→ h75311418: D
推 mosuta23179: 羅琳睡飽數錢的事不做跟一群畜牲賭氣？
→ mosuta23179: 除非她腦袋撞壞了 哈哈
→ w3160828: SJW都有瘋子跑去抗議耶穌是女的不是男的了
→ storewater: 你倒是翻譯翻譯啊
推 guogu: 看完了 應該還算中立啦 就是把這款遊戲只是因為原作是jk
→ guogu: 所以一堆人氣氣氣這件事情寫的很長而已
→ CjackC: 感謝他們的宣傳
→ mushrimp5466: sjw滾去自己做你們政確的原創啦
推 andycheng60: 真的笑死，結果罵SJW比挺SJW還好賺錢，真的有夠可悲
→ andycheng60: 的族群
推 aa384756: JK很爽阿 還有PO拿鈔票擦淚的圖
推 ggway2800: JK拿鈔票拿到手軟，而且事後發生的一堆事也證明她當初
→ ggway2800: 的顧慮是對的，現在就是看這群SJW當小丑當到什麼時候
推 payday: 羅琳當初版權簽的超硬 怎麼切割
推 zien0223: 本來JK領錢還得費神費力參與製作 現在更好躺著就能賺
噓 discoveryray: 直接轉貼是什麼廢文
→ yisky: 師爺你給翻譯翻譯
推 metallolly: 遊戲公司:謝謝sjw 爽賺一波流量
→ usoko: 講的好像JK有在霍格華茲裡排擠Transgender一樣
→ metallolly: jk:我真的超想哭 錢又變多了
→ usoko: 反正JK還是躺著數鈔票 SJW終究是沒有創作能力的losers
→ naya7415963: 這遊戲明明就很舔了結果還是被SJW抵制，然後大賣還
→ naya7415963: 不是靠JK小說的世界觀= =
噓 mushrimp5466: 你不翻也沒心得那轉過來幹嘛
推 coubeooh: SJW自己去寫IP不會嗎
噓 sy4826951: 紐時整天在蹭熱度，哈利波特作者又不是紐時，垃圾報
推 jeffbear79: JK：我都沒辦法自己創作，只能閒來無事去刷簿子
→ jeffbear79: 真是無趣的人生啊嗚嗚嗚嗚嗚
→ Kaken: 你都拿霍格華茲當標題了還想拋開JK羅琳喔，太天真了吧。但
→ Kaken: 我覺得遊戲做成這樣本來就只是嘴上說切割而已啦。
推 silomin: 對 無法 所以支持正義的jk 因為jk就是正義
→ Kaken: （我不是說遊戲爛，而是以世界觀來說算有誠意，但這就更難
→ Kaken: 切割了）
推 grandzxcv: 遲早遊戲業會知道，不管SJW賺得會更多，就像好萊塢放
→ grandzxcv: 棄中國一樣
推 lovegensokyo: 吵越兇羅琳轉越多，被抵制難過到用支票擦眼淚喔
推 ngvxsvfh: 事實證明，沒人屌你們SJW，倒不如說大家超級討厭
推 kjoz89: 原文貼的時候可以幫換行嗎 單字被分開看得很痛苦
→ kjoz89: 抱歉沒發現有原本連結 當我沒說了
→ stvn2567: 吃不到葡萄說葡萄酸
→ VVinSaber: 沒翻譯po三小==