[紐時] 一個神父面臨絕罰

[falstaff (no day but today)]

美國馬利諾會的一個司鐸 參加一個女生當司鐸的祝聖儀式
他有覆手 也有講道理
梵蒂岡通知他 他下周被絕罰了
(這是11月 14日的新聞 我沒有看到後續的報導
所以可能通知生效了)

至於那個女生 在她祝聖儀式之後
就自動被絕罰了

我有時覺得天主教會 有一點男女不平等 就是了

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/us/14priest.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=catholic&st=cse

November 14, 2008
Catholic Priest Faces Excommunication
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN

The Vatican has informed a Roman Catholic priest in the United States that he
will be excommunicated next week for participating in a ceremony it considers
illicit and invalid: the ordination of a woman as a priest.

The priest, the Rev. Roy Bourgeois, 69, has been a member of the Maryknoll
religious order for 36 years. He said he was anguished at the thought of
excommunication, but could not disavow his actions.

“Who are we as men to say that we are called by God to the ministry of
priesthood, but women are not? That our call is valid, but theirs is not?”
 he said in an interview. “We profess as Catholics that the invitation to
the priesthood comes from God, and it seems to me that we are tampering with
the sacred.”

Father Bourgeois served as a missionary in Bolivia and El Salvador, and
concerned by what he witnessed, returned to the United States and became
nationally known as a peace advocate.

He lives in an apartment outside the gates of Fort Benning, Ga., where he
leads an annual protest against the United States Army School of the
Americas, which trains military personnel from Latin America. Last year,
17,000 people joined the protest.

In August, Father Bourgeois joined a ceremony in a Unitarian Universalist
church in Lexington, Ky., in which a friend from the peace movement, Janice
Sevre-Duszynska, claimed ordination as a Roman Catholic priest. Father
Bourgeois gave the homily and laid hands on her.

He had known that excommunication was possible but said he thought it
unlikely. His order summoned him to headquarters and gave him a warning but
did not discipline him.

Then he received a letter dated Oct. 21 from the Vatican’s doctrinal
watchdog, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, warning that if he
did not recant, in writing, he would be excommunicated within 30 days.

“When I got the actual letter, I had to sit down,” he said. “I felt
nauseous. I thought, this is serious stuff. The first thought that came to
mind was, How am I going to explain this to my dad and my family?”
After weeks of prayer, Father Bourgeois informed the Vatican that he would
not repent.

Ms. Sevre-Duszynska, a veteran agitator for women’s ordination, is the 35th
American woman to claim ordination from an increasingly vocal group known as
Roman Catholic Womenpriests.

She grew up in a Polish Catholic community in Milwaukee and grew enamored of
a priest’s work after her mother arranged for her to help a nun clean the
priest’s sacristy every week.

“I have felt called to the priesthood since my childhood,” Ms.
Sevre-Duszynska said.

The Womenpriests group has been holding its own ordinations of women as
priests, deacons and even bishops across North America and Europe, starting
in 2002 with a ceremony on a boat on the Danube River. Some of the ceremonies
in Europe were done in secret, so even Womenpriest leaders say they do not
have a complete count.

The Vatican and local bishops have notified the women that they are
automatically excommunicated. But Father Bourgeois is the first priest to
face discipline for his involvement.

Leaders of the Womenpriests say that three bishops in good standing have
performed ordinations in Europe. But they have pledged not to identify the
bishops until their deaths.

Pope John Paul II reiterated the church’s position in 1994 in an apostolic
letter which said that because Jesus chose only male apostles, “the Church
has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women.”

A Roman Catholic nun who worked for the Archdiocese of St. Louis was removed
from her position by her archbishop this year, and banned from receiving
sacraments, after she attended a women’s ordination ceremony.

Father Bourgeois said he would try to appeal the Vatican’s decision.
Excommunication, according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, is “the
most severe ecclesiastical penalty.” The person is forbidden to receive or
administer sacraments.

On a practical level, Father Bourgeois also faces the loss of his benefits
and the $1,000 he receives monthly for living expenses. But, he said, “if I
am without health care, I will be joining millions of people in the U.S. who
don’t have health care.”

He has been at peace, he said, since he drove to his hometown in Louisiana
and told his 95-year-old father, his 3 siblings and 13 nieces and nephews.
His father cried a little, Father Bourgeois recalled, then said: “God
brought Roy back from the war in Vietnam, from his mission work in Bolivia
and El Salvador, and God’s going to take care of him now. I support Roy.”

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推 Geigemachen :這樣罰太重了,其他犯大罪的神職人員也沒這樣重罰
→ falstaff    :樓上說的也對 美國有性醜聞的神父也沒有被絕罰
※ 編輯: falstaff        來自: 75.18.254.63         (11/24 14:03)
推 LEONISS     :what is 絕罰??
推 forty1001   :什麼是絕罰？ 不懂+1
推 Geigemachen :因故開除教籍,除非對此事故悔過則無法領受所有聖禮
樓上說的沒錯 絕罰就是被開除教籍
是天主教 最嚴重的處罰

在以前 以為只有天主教徒可以上天堂的時代
這就代表 這些人可能要下地獄了

現在的影響是 那個神父做了36年的神父
他在美國 可能就沒有天主教給他的零用錢跟健保
還有 他不能參加天主教的禮儀
※ 編輯: falstaff        來自: 155.53.1.254         (11/25 01:13)
推 LEONISS     :那真的罰太重 戀童神父應該更嚴重又更多才是
推 panzerleader:這處罰真的太重了.....
推 rosalin     :不覺得罰太重,願走上終身聖召都是發願服從長上的,行