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http://0rz.tw/983ZO Putting Doc In Perspective Authored by Elrod Enchilada - February 21, 2008 - 11:50 pm For most of Doc Rivers’ first three years as Celtics coach, the range of debate concerning his performance ranged from “he is an absolutely terrible coach” to “he is a decidedly below average coach.” Bill Simmons probably owes Doc royalties for all the columns he wrote bashing the guy as the source of the Celtics’ problems. Doc had very few defenders on the numerous message boards, including RealGM, where I graze. This does not mean everyone was bashing Doc, merely that those not in the hate-Doc crowd mostly remained quiet. It was not a fight to get into, especially as the team sinked to the depths of the league standings the past two years. Doc Rivers身為 Celtics教練前三年的大部分時間,對於他表現爭論的重點大致從”他 絕對是個糟糕的教練”到”他肯定是個低於水準的教練”。Bill Simmons 也許對Doc最 不滿,在他的專欄裡,他把Celtics問題的源頭都歸於這個傢伙。Doc在各大討論區裡只 有很少的支持者,包括RealGM。這不代表大家都想要痛扁Doc,只是不屬於反Doc的群眾 始終保持沉默而已。這不是一場該跳進去的戰鬥 -尤其是當這支球隊,過去兩年沉到了 聯盟戰績表的深處的時候。 I was one of the quiet voices. It was not so much that I thought Doc was a great coach as much as I thought he was in an impossible situation to judge him against other head coaches. No one in Doc’s position, I reasoned, could have done much better. And I confess I found Doc to be an unusually likeable man of integrity, so I was rooting for him to succeed. The difference between Doc and Belichick, the genius, at the human level was night and day. 我是沉默的聲音之一。這不代表我就認為 Doc是個偉大的教練,只是他處在一個不可能 的情況,讓你沒辦法評斷他和其他教練。我的理由是,沒有人在 Doc這種位置會作的比 他好。我承認,我發現 Doc是個難得有這麼討喜的、正直的人,所以我支持他會成功。 Doc和Belichick這個人間的天才的不同,就像黑夜與白天這麼大。 Now, of course, that is ancient history. The message boards are filled with appreciative threads concerning Doc, often quite thoughtful and impressive. Even Bill Simmons has backed off. Doc is no longer such a moron that he could be outcoached by a caveman, as the avatar for one poster repeatedly announces. 當然了,現在這是個古老的故事了。現在討論區充滿了感激 Doc的文章,常常都是很體 貼和令人印象深刻的。即便 Bill Simmons都放棄立場了。Doc不再是個連穴居人當教練 都比他好的白痴,現在不斷傳頌地宛如天神下凡。 What was most striking to me during the rabid denunciation of Doc from 2004 to 2007, was the absurdly unfair and high standard most fans had for judging NBA coaches. By that standard, very few coaches could stay employed for more than a few months, let alone a season or two. Perhaps it is the nature of the beast, or perhaps it is a function of the Internet and cable TV and our general immersion in sports information that would have been unthinkable a few decades ago. 在2004到2007年那段狂怒譴責 Doc的時間,對我來說印象最深刻的,是球迷評斷教練的 超高標準,還有荒謬地不公平的。根據那個標準,很少有教練可以執教超過幾個月,更 不要說一或兩季了。也許這是野獸的天性,也或許是網路、第四台電視的功能、還有我 們對運動資訊的沉溺,在幾十年前這是難以想像的。 Consider this. 考慮以下這點。 Imagine a team has the same NBA coach for six seasons. During those six seasons this team has two first-team all-NBA players on three occasions, and a first team all-NBA player the three other seasons. The team has three sure-fire Hall -of-Famers in their prime for the last five of the six years. One of the three players is commonly considered the very best player in the game during most of these six years. 想像有支球隊過去六年有同樣一個教練。在這六年中,有三季球隊中同時有兩個聯盟第 一隊球員,另外三季有一個聯盟第一隊球員。這支球隊有三個一腳踏進名人堂的球員, 過去五六年來都在黃金時期。三個中有一個球員普遍被認為,在過去六年大部分時間, 是聯盟中最好的球員。 In other words, the team is loaded with talent, and only one other NBA team over this six year period produces as many first and second team all-pros, and no other team produces as many first-team all-NBA players. 換句話說,這支球隊有足夠的天份,過去六年中只有另一支球隊有同樣多的聯盟第一隊 ,及第二隊球員,沒有其他球隊有這麼多的聯盟第一隊球員。 If there is one iron law in NBA history, it is that the teams with the most superstars tend to win championships. It is what any coach prays for, because teams without first-team all-NBA talents almost never ever win NBA titles, or even get close. Speed dial Phil Jackson if you want any elaboration on this point. 如果 NBA歷史有任何鐵律,就是有最多超級明星的球隊較可能贏得冠軍。這是所有教練 都祈求的,因為沒有聯盟第一隊球員的球隊,幾乎從沒有贏過聯盟冠軍,連接近都稱不 上。趕快打電話給Phil Jackson,如果你對這一點還想聽更多闡釋。 Imagine also that there was no other dominant team in the Eastern Conference with it during these six years. It is not like this team played in the shadow of some other dynasty. 想像在這六年中,東區裡沒有另外一支有主宰力的球隊。這支球隊沒有在其他王朝的陰 影下打球。 So how did this team and this coach do over the course of these six seasons? 所以這支球隊和教練在過去六年的表現如何呢? In a word: terrible. This team did not win a title ever. This team did not even make it to the NBA finals ever during those six years. Three times the team was defeated in the opening round of the playoffs – being swept twice -- and three times the team was defeated in the conference finals. 用兩個字說:可怕。這支球隊沒贏任何一座冠軍。這六年中甚至沒有打進決賽。這支球 隊在季後賽的第一輪被淘汰三次,兩次被橫掃,另外三季在東區決賽輸球。 Moreover, the team never had the best record in the Eastern Conference. In fact, the last two years of the six years in question the team produced is worst winning percentages, exactly as its three superstars were at their peak performance. One year it had a .500 winning percentage. 還有,這支球隊從沒有拿過東區第一的戰績。事實上,球隊在最後兩年的勝率是這六年 中最低的,也就是那三個超級明星最巔峰的時期。他們只有一年有五成以上勝率。 The coach of this team must have really sucked, right? What a bloody idiot. He must make Doc Rivers of 2006-07 look like a combination of Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. That coach must have been the team owner or something, because this goes down as maybe the worst coaching performance in NBA history. Never has so much talent accomplished so little. 這支球隊的教練一定是糟透了,對吧?真是個超級大笨蛋。他讓Doc Rivers在2006-2007 球季的表現像是愛因斯坦和霍金的綜合體。這個教練一定是球隊老闆還是什麼的,因為 這也許是NBA歷史裡最差的教練了。從來沒有這麼多天份,成就卻這麼少。 As you probably guessed, the team I am describing is the Boston Celtics, circa 1950-1956. The three superstars are Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, and Ed Macauley. 也許你會猜測到,我描述的這支球隊是1950-1956年的波士頓Celtics。三個超級明星是 Bob Cousy、Bill Sharman和Ed Macauley。 The coach is none other than Red Auerbach. 這個教練不是別人,就是Red Auerbach。 Moral of the story: be patient when evaluating coaches. Red took a long time before he coached a championship team in Boston. It took John Wooden even longer, 16 seasons, to win his first championship at UCLA. Doc may not belong in the same paragraph as those guys, but he is, at the very least, a highly credible NBA coach. 這個故事的寓意:評斷教練的時候要有耐心。紅頭在波士頓奪得冠軍之前花了很長一段 時間。它花了John Wooden更久,16個球季,才贏得他在UCLA的第一個冠軍。Doc也許匹 配不上這些傢伙,但是最少他是一個非常可靠的NBA教練。 Here are the numbers: Boston Celtics Annual Record: Year / Record / Conference finish 1955-56 / 39-33 / .542 / 2 (6 GB) 1954-55 / 36-36 / .500 / 3 (7 GB) 1953-54 / 42-30 / .583 / 2 (2 GB) 1952-53 / 46-25 / .648 / 3 (2 GB) 1951-52 / 39-27 / .591 / 2 (1 GB) 1950-51 / 39-30 / .565 / 2 (2 GB) Boston Celtics Playoff Performance: 50-51: lost 2-0 in first round (conference semi-finals) 51-52: lost 2-1 in first round (conference semi-finals) 52-53: won first round 2-0; lost 3-1 in conference finals 53-54: lost first round 2-0 (conference finals…one less round of playoffs this year) 54-55: won 2-1 in first round; lost 3-1 in conference finals 55-56: lost 2-1 in first round (conference semi-finals) Boston Celtics All-NBA seasons: 50-51: one first-team all-NBA (Macauley) 51-52: two first-team all-NBA players (Macauley, Cousy) 52-53: two first-team all-NBA players (Macauley, Cousy); one second-team all-NBA (Sharman) 53-54: one first-team all-NBA player (Cousy); one second-team all-NBA (Macauley) 54-55: one first-team all-NBA player (Cousy); one second-team all-NBA (Sharman) 55-56: two first-team all-NBA players (Cousy, Sharman) --------- 本來想翻"失敗是全隊的貢獻"那篇 後來看的很痛苦,就放棄那篇了XD 這篇也不錯,看看歷史吧。但是不代表Doc我明天對你有耐心啊~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.166.203.99
NLchu :頭推~辛苦了 04/28 16:33
cyjoe :Doc最近幾場表情都很輕鬆的樣子 XDDD 04/28 16:30
bri :但是Doc昨天聽到山貓教頭被火的時候很不爽 04/28 16:44
cyjoe :應該是同理心...去年這個時候...還是小綠綠有人情味~ 04/28 16:50
cyjoe :倒數第二沒關係 我們帶KG和RAY給你 好好帶啊~~~ 04/28 16:52
bri :對呀老鷹隊的Woodson也同仇敵愾 同病相憐啊:p 04/28 17:04
cyjoe :公鹿的更可憐 一放假馬上就...我連名字都還沒記住... 04/28 17:09
DocRivers :我會好好帶球隊的 請大家放心 04/28 17:36
wolves77920 :樓上本尊記住這句話阿 04/28 17:58