作者LinChihChei (我是MVP林志傑)
看板Celtics
標題Re: [外電] Big Baby相關討論
時間Wed Jan 14 14:31:48 2009
※ 引述《calbert (Yummy)》之銘言:
: Big Baby is shooting 35% from the field on the year. It’s hard to look away
: from that, even if he does take less than 4 shots a game. It is a small
: sample size, but either way that’s not just bad, its horrific. Especially
: for a big man who does not shoot 3s. I mean, Eddie House’s fg% is higher
: than that, and he’s a guy who takes almost 70% of his shots from behind the
: arc. So until Davis starts hitting some shots, haters certainly have a lot to
: hate about, I’m not doubting that.
: However, if you look at last year, the same guy was shooting 48% from the
: field. Some of this can definitely be attributed to the addition of a 15 foot
: jump shot to his game. But his finishing at the rim just hasn’t been as
: strong. He didn’t have hops last year either, so I’m not buying that just
: because he can’t jump out of the gym he will never be a good finisher at the
: rim. Ryan Gomes was an excellent example of a player for the Green that was a
: great finisher down low without having a lot of athleticism. Give Davis some
: time, just like we did with Rondo, and you might regret ever doubting him to
: begin with.
(大寶眾)
大寶本季的FG僅達到35%,你很難不去注意到這樣的成績,即便他一場比賽出手不到四次
雖然只是小小的樣本數,但這代表的不只是糟糕而已,他爛得令人害怕!
再者,大寶是個不投三分線的長人,但是他的FG%竟然比Eddie House還低,
House的出手次數可是有將近七成都是三分遠程炮火耶,
無疑的,只有大寶自己多搞進一些球,才能讓憎惡他的人停止憎惡他
然而,同樣的一個大寶在去年的命中率達到了48%,這當然可以部分歸因於他在比賽中
加重了15呎跳投的比例,但他去年同樣的也是飛不起來的肥牛,
所以我並不接受因為他跳不起來所以他無法最終把球搞進籃框這樣的說法,
Gomes就是一個很好的例子,他並不具備出色的運動天賦,但卻很能將球搞進籃框......
多給大寶一些時間吧,就像我們對於Rondo一樣,
而我們將很可能會後悔曾經這樣子在一開始質疑他的能力
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: he hasn’t fallen out of favor…give it some time…Powe isn’t utilizing his
: full post game, which I believe to be a product of infrequency of use – post
: play is about rhythm and if you don’t have it then your game can be erratic…
: The team knows that Powe is a far better PF than Davis – Davis is getting
: his shot to prove otherwise through extended minutes and has not done so…
: even assuming Davis is appreciably better defensively -which he’s not,
: (marginally better maybe) – Productivity is still king in this league.
: The team knows that Leon can be highly productive, so developing the nuances
: in his game is a much better value proposition than hoping Davis can lose
: 30lbs and figure out how to make an impact statistically.
: That “little things” argument is the same one we bashed Scal for all those
: years….Little things are very important, but if you are going to play 15-25
: minutes, you have to be productive statistically too…Celtics know Powe can
: put up the numbers and hold his own in man defense – they will work to
: develop the rest of his game….Davis I doubt sees another TC with this team…
(李庸魄眾)
"他還沒失去愛~~~"..."給他多一點時間~~~..."...(酸大寶ing)
Powe並未完全展現他低位單打的能力,這是我認為他很少用的招數;然而,
低位單打攸關打球的節奏,如果你沒有這一招,那你的比賽內容將是不穩定的
球隊知道Powe是遠優於大寶的大前鋒,大寶正努力的把球搞進去以俾獲得多一點上場時間
然而大寶卻尚未做到...
即便普遍評論認為大寶防守上略好一些(事實上他並沒有,或許邊際防守效益有較好...)
在場上展現的生產力與效益仍然是聯盟掛帥的評估指標
隊伍知道李庸魄能夠提供高度的效益產出,因此將球隊比重放在他身上,
是比期待大寶瘦30磅更有意義的...
"小事"的爭議也是這幾年我們一直批評斯卡拉布林的,
見微知著,輕話重聽,小細節當然是非常重要的,但如果你要上場打個15-25分鐘,
數據效益的產出也是非常重要的,隊伍知道李庸魄能夠一方面達到不錯的數據;
一方面也做好防守本分,隊伍將根據這點讓他接下來能繼續好好表現他的優點,
大寶,我想他將會是球隊的另一個"TC"(什麼是TC?)
: ----------
: Really, the best way to utilize Davis would be to just have him crushing
: people on picks all night long, and teach him to roll instead of fade. His
: newly unveiled jumper that he’s been green-lit for this season sucks, to be
: fair. If he gets the ball on a cut he’s a threat to get fouled or to use his
: passing ability.
: Really, what Doc has tried to do this season is to turn Big Baby into Ryan
: Gomes 2.0 with the pick and pop play. It’s not working. And he’s the type
: of player that gets frustrated with himself when he misses a shot he should
: have made or screws up a rotation. He then gets mentally irregular, which
: leads to more mistakes. If all he did was box people out and set picks and
: not worry about the rest, the game would come to him a lot easier than it
: does now.
(大寶使用方法Read Me)
真˙的˙!運用大寶最好的方式就是讓他整晚在擋人上擊潰對手,
並且指導他利用轉身來代替抽送的假動作...平心而論,這個球季教練團對他的跳投開綠燈
而他新揭幕的跳投能力...爛透了,假如他是持球切入,那他還可能要個犯規,
或是好好利用他傳球的功力
河流這一季嘗試去做的就是把大寶轉換成Gomes2.0版,打個擋切戰術,這行不通...
而且大寶在沒投進該進的球或是在本身的輪值上搞砸演出時,他會對自己感到失氣失志,
這樣子的異常心態總是讓他犯更多的錯,假如派給他的工作就是單純的卡位跟擋人,
其他的他都不用擔心的話,那他打起來將會比現在給他的複雜體系要簡單的多
: -----------
: Ok so you’re claiming that you have an inside track on the reasoning for
: Glenn Davis getting minutes? I would appreciate some further explanation as
: to how you seem to know something the rest of us don’t. Unless that is you
: are just assuming. Either way, I’m confused by your post. Mainly because you
: go on for about 7 paragraphs telling me how much better Powe is than Davis,
: then sum up the reason why Davis is playing over him being that the gap isn’
: t big enough to matter, so showcasing the player they’d rather get rid of is
: just the smarter move.
: Outside of the first point I just made, there is another glaring problem with
: your theory. Danny and Doc would have to be pretty naive to think that they
: can showcase Glenn Davis right now and expect to reap any benefits from it. I
: mean you yourself just went on for again 7 paragraphs telling us how bad
: Glenn Davis is, and now your explanation for why he is playing is to showcase
: him, hoping that a Kevin Mchale of the NBA is out there licking his chops?
: That’s hypocritical and makes no sense.
: Also, I played the game at the collegiate level so I understand what
: rotations are. It’s not just about the pick and roll either, it’s mainly
: about being in the right or wrong places on defense. I’m not saying that
: Leon Powe is a horrible defender. If i was coming off that way, let me just
: say for the record I don’t believe that. What I believe is that Glenn Davis
: is extraordinarly good for a 2nd year player. His IQ is extraordinarly high
: for a 2nd year player. I, like you, actually believe Powe’s ceiling is much
: higher than Davis’. Simply for some of the reasons you’ve stated, we all
: know Davis is limited in some areas. Leon Powe has and will continue to
: improve in these areas that I feel he is currently inferior to Davis in.
: Little by little, as he grows up, he will probably soar past Davis on the NBA
: radar because he’s just more athletically gifted.
: Most important thing here is I was simply making the case for why Doc is
: playing Davis. I don’t necessarily agree with him. Like Van Gundy says “
: give me tangibles ova intangibles every day of the week.” I was simply
: making the case for why Glenn Davis should absolutely be in the rotation and
: ahead of Patrick O’bryant of all people. If I were the coach, Leon would be
: my third big man in this rotation, no question. But Davis would be my 4th and
: I wouldn’t be looking to replace him.
戰文懶得翻了,反正就是在戰李庸魄跟大寶誰比較威
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