[情報] 羅本對切爾西有多重要?

[Santos (請叫我兩分男 冏rz)]

http://bluechampions.com/how-indispensable-is-robben-for-chelsea/

How indispensable is Robben for Chelsea?

The Robben story is on BBC now. This says that Robben has agreed his personal
terms with Real Madrid. But based on what Jose had said after the Bluewings
match yesterday, it doesn’t appear that Chelsea has allowed the player to
speak to Real Madrid, in which case, it is either illegal or false.
「羅本傳」現在已經在BBC出現，他們說羅本已經跟皇馬達成協議。但是從莫里尼奧昨天
的訪談看來，切爾西並沒有讓羅本與皇馬對話，所以俱樂部這種行為是不合法也是錯誤
的。

Some rumours even say Robben deal would a swap of Cicinho or Cannavaro plus
cash. I dont see any intelligence in getting Cannavaro for Chelsea. If it’s
Cicinho, then we don’t have to pursue 30m Dani Alves any longer.
有些人甚至說羅本的轉會將會是用西西尼奧或是卡那瓦羅二選一加上現金，我覺得把
卡那瓦羅弄來切爾西很蠢，如果是西西尼奧的話，那我們就不需要花3000萬歐元買
阿爾維斯了。

Talking about reports and rumours, if you want to piss off any Arsenal buddy
of yours, just ask him if Palacio is joining Arsenal. If you don’t know the
background, here it is. A Brazilian kid wrote in his Boca Juniors blog that
Palacio is joining Arsenal and also spread this news in various Arsenal blogs
and forums himself. It spread to such an extent that ‘The Sun’ ran an
exclusive on ‘Palacio to Arsenal’ story alongwith few other papers and
believe me, the Boca Juniors president had to come out and issue a statement
that this is false. Above all, that kid came out and called the prank so
proudly. So, not everything that is published is true and you don’t need a
better example that this.
說到謠言，如果你想惹毛一個阿森那球迷的話，只要問他帕拉西澳去阿森那了沒？
不了解？有一個巴西小鬼在他的柏卡青年隊部落格上寫了帕拉西澳要轉會阿森那的新聞
，消息散佈到一個地步，太陽報為此寫了一篇「獨家報導」，最後出動柏卡青年隊主席
出面辟謠。一切都只因為一個死小孩的惡作劇。

The BBC report also says that we are claiming 15 million pounds and Real are
ready to pay only 12. Even at 15 million poounds, I feel Chelsea is
underselling a great prospect. He is just 23-year old, has not yet peaked in
his career and is a great talent. His constant injury niggles must have had
an influence to the price being discussed. For Chelsea, apart from the 04-05
season, we couldn’t see much of him at a longer periods of time.
BBC報導切爾西索價1500萬英鎊，但是皇馬只準備付出1200萬英鎊。我覺得切爾西在做
賠本生意，羅本只有23歲(？)，還沒到達職業頂峰。持續的傷病影響了他的報價。在切
爾西，除了0405賽季，我們並不常常看到他。

Jose’s response on Robben story after the Bluewings match, is not all that
reassuring:
莫里尼奧對於羅本傳的評論，似乎也不是很肯定:

The latest with Robben is that he played the game. I cannot tell you more
than that. At the moment he is a Chelsea player with two more years of
contract and he is working well. For me, he is a player like Terry or Lampard
with two more years of contract. I look at him as a Chelsea player and he has
to compete against very good wingers like we have. I am happy with the
situation.
現在最新情況是羅本剛打了比賽，羅本現在是切爾西球員而且還有兩年合約，羅本必須
競爭邊鋒的位置，我很滿意目前的情況。

Reminds me of what Henry was saying in May about his future at Arsenal.
還記得阿森納的亨利在五月時說過的話嗎?

See, I’m a great fan of Robben and would be sad to see him go. But if I have
to see objectively, the output Chelsea got from Robben and SWP (you know, I’
m not a great fan of him!) , there wasn’t too much difference, if you adjust
the goals, assists & shots to the playing minutes. The Robben effect on our
game and results has been diminishing over the last three seasons, I’ve to
admit. If you think, I’m seeing Robben this way because, he seems to be on
his way out, well, in a way you’re right.
好啦！我是一個羅本迷，也不想看他離去，但是客觀點看，其實羅本跟小賴特的功率是
差不多的，如果你分析一下進球，助攻，射門次數還有上場時間的話，就會發現羅本在
場上的貢獻正在一年年減少(這三年來的紀錄)，我必須承認，羅本正在慢慢的遠離球隊
。

Some statistics to explain things. Here GS is Games Started, SB is Sub
appearance, G is Goals, A is Assists, SH is Shots and SG is Shots on Goal.
以下是一些數據

比賽            首發    替補      進球    助攻    射門數    射正球門內數
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
歐洲冠軍盃0304     0       2         0       0         2               0
歐洲冠軍盃0405     2       1         1       0         0               0
英超              14       4         7       9        51              35
足總杯             0       2         0       0         0               0
聯賽杯             3       1         1       0         0               0

The above is the statistics of the 2004-05 season when he was one of the
architects of the historic title win.
以上是0405年數據，羅本幫助球隊獲得歷史性的冠軍。

比賽             首發     替補     進球     助攻   射門數   射正球門數
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
歐洲冠軍盃          6        0        0        1        8            4
英超               21        7        6        2       46           26
足總杯              2        2        1        1        9            8
聯賽杯              1        0        0        1        2            0
社區盾牌            1        0        0        0        0            0

Here is the statistics of the second season. Started and appeared in more
matches than in 2004-05, but ended up not bettering his earlier season.
這是0506的數據，羅本出場的次數變多了，但是其他數據反而比第一年更差了。

比賽              首發     替補      進球    助攻     射門數   射正球門數
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
歐洲冠軍盃           3        5         1       1         11            3
英超                16        5         2       6         34           19
足總杯               2        2         0       0          8            5
聯賽杯               2        1         0       1          6            5
社區盾牌             1        0         0       0          0            0

This is the last season. You can see the returns diminish. I don’t simply
value a player based on numbers. There are also intangibles like his
influence on the game and other colleagues, his creativity that causes chaos
in the opponent defence etc which are equally important, but all considered,
we have been getting less and less from Robben over the last three seasons.
這是去年的數據，數據變的更低，我不用數據評估一個球員，還有他在場上的作用以及
隊友也要列入考慮，羅本的創造力，在敵區製造混亂的能力等等。但是三年評估下來，
我們能從羅本身上得到的已經越來越少了。

On the other hands, the fact that his effectiveness has diminished over the
last two seasons may not have any bearing on what he has to offer in the
coming years because, he is just 23 years and there is so much more in his
career. Now that he has come out of his injury, if he plays for a long
stretch of period without any further injury, he can be a great asset once
again, but given his injury profile, that’s quite a big ‘if’.
另一方面，羅本在過去兩年的作用下降的事實也有可能不影響他之後幾年的發揮，
他才23歲(？)還有很長的職業生涯，如果他能長時間的出賽，他會是很大的財富，
但是從他的病史來看，這個問號滿大的。

If we’re going to buy Drenthe as a replacement for Robben, I’d feel
somewhat happy. I’ve seen Drenthe on youtube. He is fantastic. Well,
Baptista in Arsenal colours would also be brilliant, in a youtube
compilation. So, you always leave a discount factor to what you see on
youtube. Even after that Drenthe is still good. He can give a good run for
anyone’s money from Ashley Cole to Malouda.
如果我們要買進德輪特代替羅本，我會覺得很高興。我曾經在你管上面觀察德輪特。
他令人驚艷。不過在你管的視頻上，阿森納的巴浦第斯塔看起來也很強，所以必須要
在你管上面看到的打個折扣。要是德輪特真的很強，他同時也會讓花在錢科跟馬路達人
身上的錢有價值。

Also, you need to consider a fully-fit Joe Cole, hungry-to-prove Malouda,
highly-improved SWP, red-hot Scott Sinclair and possible-right-winger Sheva,
to see how Robben’s probable exit would impact us. Now you can add the
Drenthe possibility here to see the full picture. In fact, given the problem
of plenty that Jose faces, if Robben leaves, it might do good for Jose. Given
a choice, Jose could offload SWP and retain Robben.
同時你也要考慮到健康的橋柯爾，急於想表現自己的馬路達人，進步很快的洨賴特，火紅
的新克萊爾，可以打打右翼的色娃，來看看羅本走了到底對我們有什麼打擊。也可以把德
輪特加進來。這目前來看，羅本若走了也許對教練少了一個麻煩的選擇，但是如果讓他選
擇，他應該會留下羅本然後趕走洨賴特。

All said, I’d still hope Robben to stay. But if he doesn’t, I’d feel sad
that I’d be missing a quality player like Robben in Chelsea colours, but
Chelsea as a team should be able to cope quite well.
我還是希望羅本能留下，但是如果他走了，我會很失望切爾西放走了一個有實力的球員
，但是切爾西應該能承受這樣的損失。

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我簡單的只看英超出場次數，一個一年平均踢不到20場聯賽的球員，就算在怎
麼利害，也沒辦法依靠他成就大業吧......

羅本去皇馬可能更有前途，但是能不能多賣一點錢？

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